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Wadaro
2011-02-22, 10:45 AM
So, in the current campaign I'm playing in, I've been instructed to create a new character in case something should happen to my demonblood Warlock.

I have decided that my backup character will be a Master specialist(abjuration) and Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil.

Instead of attempting to stop enemy spellcasters through counterspelling or damage, I figure I'll just use the major school esoteria(master specialist, complete mage) to turn my antimagic field emanation into a touch attack, and then use the Reach Spell metamagic feat(complete divine) to turn my new antimagic touch into a 30-foot ray. Congratulations, Generic Evil Sorcerer! You can't cast at all. And the Campaign cries.

Now that I have the enemy wizards locked down, I... guess I'll just throw rocks at them and yell. For now.

Currently my plan is to dip three levels into cleric and get the Initiate of Mystra feat, as then I'll be able to cast through antimagic fields provided I beat the Dc of 11 + Antimagic Field's caster level. This method is inconsistent and I want to know if there's any way I could increase my caster level to beat caster checks without increasing the level of Antimagic field, on top of that I'm not entirely sure

The farthest I've gone down this route is to take Arcane Mastery(complete arcane) which is close, but... I need to beat that 11...

So, any ideas?

RndmNumGen
2011-02-22, 11:01 AM
Not sure I can help, but quick question; Is it still an antimagic field spell that is just centered on the enemy casters(and moves with them) or is it a single-person antimagic?

Fouredged Sword
2011-02-22, 12:29 PM
There is a metamagic feat somewhere that lets your spells function in a anti magic field. It's expensive, but killing a level 30 wizard with magic missiles would be funny.

Cog
2011-02-22, 12:43 PM
Currently my plan is to dip three levels into cleric and get the Initiate of Mystra feat, as then I'll be able to cast through antimagic fields provided I beat the Dc of 11 + Antimagic Field's caster level. This method is inconsistent and I want to know if there's any way I could increase my caster level to beat caster checks without increasing the level of Antimagic field, on top of that I'm not entirely sure.
Alternatively, you could just rely on spells that'll punch through an AMF without a check at all. Instantaneous conjurations, telekinesis-launched weaponry, and the like will work just fine, so long as you're casting from outside the AMF yourself.

The Glyphstone
2011-02-22, 12:45 PM
There is a metamagic feat somewhere that lets your spells function in a anti magic field. It's expensive, but killing a level 30 wizard with magic missiles would be funny.

It'd have to be homebrew/3rd party. No official WotC material except the Initiate of Mystra can operate in an AMF without penalty.

However, OP, you can still kill your victim - use Orb spells, as they are Instantaneous Conjurations and function through AMFs. They were reprinted in SC, but are also in CArcane. That'll save you 3 levels and a feat.

Gavinfoxx
2011-02-22, 01:01 PM
Isn't there a handbook somewhere on what works in antimagic fields and such, and how they work precisely?

Garryl
2011-02-22, 03:19 PM
There's a guide to dealing with AMFs (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=10104.0) on Brilliant Gameologists.

Geiger Counter
2011-02-22, 03:26 PM
find a beholder, kill it, remove it's eye, keep it in a lead box with an opening on one side. There you go you have a permanent directional AMF.

Keld Denar
2011-02-22, 03:45 PM
You can always cast a spell at a lower CL than full, as long as that CL is high enough to cast the spell. So, AMF is a 6th level spell, right? That means that the min CL is 11. If you are level 12, you can cast a CL11 AMF at any time.

Now look in Complete Arcane. The feat Arcane Mastery allows you to take 10 on any CL check. The IoM feat is a CL check. Thus, you can take 10 on it. Since the DC is 11+CL, you just have to cast the AMF at 1 CL lower than max. Example, if you are CL20, cast your AMF at CL19, and the DC will be 30. Taking 10, your CL check on any other spell is 10+20=30. Autosuccess.

As long as you are gonna be lighting 3 levels on fire and burning them at the alter of Mystra, consider taking the Divine Defiance feat (Fiendish Codex II). This dainty little gem allows you to burn a TU attempt to counter any spell as an immediate action, using the standard counterspell rules. Dispel Magic always works for counterspelling, assuming you can make the CL check. Luckily, Master Abjurer and the Inquisition domain give you a huge enough bonus on dispel checks that you can take 10 on the dispel magic attempt (using the above mentioned Arcane Mastery feat) and autosucceed at those too!

Elric VIII
2011-02-23, 12:50 AM
Just a thought, it might be a better idea to go for Arcane caster 1/Cleric (or equivalent) 19.

You can use the Divine Magician ACF to get AMF as a 6th level spell and use that one arcane caster level to qualify for Arcane Mastery.

aje8
2011-02-23, 04:36 PM
OP:
There is already a very simple way to do this. There's a spell called Anti-Magic Ray, Spell Compendium I think.... though I'm not 100% sure. That should save you time and feats. On the whole, it should be a much easier method of accomplishing an identical result.

The Glyphstone
2011-02-23, 06:45 PM
OP:
There is already a very simple way to do this. There's a spell called Anti-Magic Ray, Spell Compendium I think.... though I'm not 100% sure. That should save you time and feats. On the whole, it should be a much easier method of accomplishing an identical result.

Antimagic Ray allows a save, though. Will negates, I believe. He's looking for a no-save-just-suck effect.