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Sydonai
2011-02-26, 02:18 AM
Massive spoilers for "Return of the Scarlet Empress".





The Scenario I present to you happens thus;

T.S.E. marries "The Ebon Dragon", the Alchemicals break the "Seal of Eight Divinities" allowing Autochthon back into creation, but not in time to save him from dying and becoming The "Engine Of Extinction", T.E.D. betrays the other "Reclamation Yozi" and escapes hell while leaving them trapped, at the same time Szoreny informs the Incarnae of TED's escape plan in exchange for getting him and Isidoros "parolled", the Incarnae(Sun, Luna, and the Maidens) and all hundred Sidereals die in the resulting carnage over the next few weeks(Ted has control of "The Sword of Creation"/"Impereal Manse"), a mixed group of Solars, rebel Abyssals, reformed Infernals, Lunars, Alchemicals, and The RoseBlack's Legion storm the Imperial city, they manage to kill the TSE, .......and then some idiot forgot what happens when a Primordial dies; bye-bye TED, hello "Dragon That Was", this overloads the Impereal Manse cuasing it to meltdown wiping out over 90% of the Blessed Isle with it, the "Good-Guys" manage to teleport out with the "Deal with a Devil" clause in the Manse's power source, The dead Empress sacrifices her name to the neverborn and becomes "The Phoenix Astride The World", then betrays the Neverborn and leads the army of Righteous Dead against them......


I'm really not looking forward to what happens next, what with two Neverborn, two Yozi, and who knows what else loose in creation.

Sydonai
2011-02-26, 04:21 PM
When I said "assaulted the Impereal City" what I meant was; Attacked the Blessed Isle at roughly the same time and moved in the general direction of the Impereal City.

SO, there is now a huge crater where the Isle used to be.
What makes it worse is; it went deep enough(in a metephysical since) to punch a hole into the Underworld, and destroyed enough Gates at the same time to open a hole into Yu Shan. So now the Underworld exists ten miles down from sea-level at any point in creation and Yu Shan exists ten miles up from sea-level. look into the crater(or dig down deep enough) and you can see Onblivion at the bottom. Look up and you can see heaven above the clouds.

needless to say, the Greater Elemental Dragon of Earth is dying if not already dead. So the question now is; how to stop creation from getting destroyed this time?

Ganurath
2011-02-26, 04:36 PM
Hmm... Huge crater where the Isle used to be. What's happened to Stygia? Are the Fair Folk making any moves, or the Deathlords?

SurlySeraph
2011-02-26, 07:46 PM
Well, first off you need to plug that hole. Get every Essence wielder who's good at cutting things you can find. Since Yu-Shan is Blessed Isle-shaped, all you should need to do is cut off a couple hundred feet of its bottom layer and drop it. This will create a massive Blessed Isle-shaped plug for the hole.
Lots of things could happen when it drops. It could cover over or neatly fit in the hole and keep ghosts from coming out (good), fall through the hole and and cover over the Mouth of Oblivion, keeping the Neverborn from getting out (probably good), fall into the Mouth and slam down the Neverborn as it falls, completely destroying them (great), fall on the Neverborn and get stuck on them (good unless it wakes them up and they can get it off them), or fall right into Oblivion missing the Neverborn completely (bad).
In any case, if The Dragon That Was is still there it'll surely knock him down into the Underworld at very least, meaning you're down to one Neverborn and two Yozi menacing Creation.
Since Isidoros is angry and charge-y and reckless, try to lead him through the hole before it gets plugged. Dropping him into the Underworld probably won't make things in Creation worse.

Second, you need a new Elemental Pole of Earth. This will require either messing around with a Protoshinmaic Vortex and reality engines or getting in contact with Gaia and finding something she can make into one.
If The Maidens unlocked astrological charms before dying, you can get an Eclipse or Moonshadow and find a way for him to learn The King Is Dead. Then it's just a simple matter of getting a potential replacement and taking him to see Gaia.
If not, you should probably go with the Protoshinmaic Vortex. Breaking the seals on Greater Astrology with no Sidereals left to explain how is likely to be harder than jury-rigging reality-generating machines, at least if you have enough Twilights around. Unless the Bureau of Destiny's surviving gods of secrets are nice and cooperative.
You could work on both at the same time, of course.

Is the Kukla awake yet? If not, why not? He'd make a great replacement for the "normal" Greater Elemental Dragon of Earth, he might go immediately to where the Pole used to be and either defend it or try to make himself into a new one without outside help, and in any case having a massive angry machine of destruction who likes earth can't possibly make things worse.

Is anyone running the Daystar? Try to get some Solar-alikes to the Daystar to start bombarding whatever's invading.

OK, next issue is the Engine Of Extinction. Where in Creation is he, and was the population of Autochthonia still inside him when he died? Because if they were, millions of Nephwracks are probably coming from his direction. Send necromancers. And Zenith Castes.
Get people who know Solar Circle Sorcery or Void Circle Necromancy and try to teleport him back Elsewhere or into the Underworld. Alternately, if you have an Eclipse with Chosen of Journeys charms, try using Neighborhood Relocation Method to drag him into a Shadowland or into the Wyld. Alternately, lead Isidoros to him. Isidoros hates order.

Next is Szoreny and Isidoros. Isidoros is impulsive. Try to lead him somewhere where there are less valuable things to break, such as the Wyld or the West.
Hopefully Szoreny's desire for vengeance will be put on hold because the Incarna are dead, and he'll be cooperative. If not... I don't know, set him on fire? Setting him on fire might help.

Ganurath
2011-02-26, 08:08 PM
Surly: That second point is actually a nonissue if SPOILERGethamaneSPOILER is still intact, and somebody knows about the artificial Elemental Pole of Earth they have as backup.

Analytica
2011-02-26, 08:24 PM
OK, I SO want to play Exalted now. :smallsmile:

Chilingsworth
2011-02-26, 08:37 PM
What I want to know is: Why was this thread titled "The Newlyweds?" :smallconfused:

SurlySeraph
2011-02-26, 08:49 PM
@^: Because the marriage of the Scarlet Empress and the Ebon Dragon kicks off most of the calamity that's happened. Not sure whether they're still married after the events Sydonai described, what with how they're both undead-ish now.

Sydonai
2011-02-26, 10:06 PM
They are still married( or at least they still count as married), and The Phoenix is PI$$ED about that.

The Racksha are being disturbingly silent, the remains of the Jadeborn civilization was exposed to the surface and the Darkbroods learned that the Sun is gone.

The Engine is mostly empty, maybe a few hundred people are still inside, but they all became gremlins instead of dying( including the Alchemicals that had turned into cities). He doesn't seem to be moving, just floating through the sky ignoring gravity( and bombarding anything unerneath him with gremlins).

The Dragon seems to think that he is "THE EMPEROR OF ALL" and is under the impression that everyone is basking in his divinity( Right now he is in to much pain to realize that several people have already tried to destroy him. We think that the same thing is happening to Engine, to much pain to move ).

The Incarnae knew they would die( Jupiter had a "small accident") and did everything they could to buff their Exalted, Gaia is having a hissyfit over what happened to the Pole of Earth and Luna, she refuses to leave Zen Mu, where she has been sulking/healing for the last decade or so( SOMETHING kicked her Primordial @$$ so badly she still can't move, and refuses to comment on exactly what happened).

The Kukla was going to become the new Dragon of Earth but......some GENIUS mentioned that "nothing can survive Oblivion, its like an absolute rule". Predictably Isidorus heard that, he was listening carefully( The Free Yozi are trying to act like responsible Lords of Everything and decided to help), and charged right in.....and got stuck. Szoreny is trying to pull him free and Isidorus is still trying to charge forward, the interactions between their charmsets("unstopable force" meets "reflected power") mean that neither one is going to succeed any time soon. So now Szoreny is the new Blessed Isle, and Earth is being replaced with reflective Metal. What makes this even worse is that Malfeas now exists in every relfection, nothing can pass through except on Calibration, but you can see everything on the other side just fine.

The magical materials aligned with destroyed entities are decaying. That includes MoonSilver, Orichalcum, and White JadeSteel. Artifacts and Alchemicals made of those materials are slowly corroding into nothing, or worse, turning into Soulsteel or Gossamer. The Lunar's tattoos are being affected to.

The surviving JadeBorn, Alchemicals, Dynasts( and surprisingly, some Lunars), have sided with Szoreny, who is to busy with his boyfriend to notice that his trees are being used as a temporary substitute for Moonsilver.

Sydonai
2011-02-26, 10:13 PM
Oh yeah, and Stygia exists underground, they have opened up peace/trade negotiations with the Darkbroods.


edit:The DeathLords have decided that the Neverborn are to busy to keep them in line anymore, they have decided to do whatever they want. We know this becuase The First and Forsaken Lion has officially declared war on Creation.

SurlySeraph
2011-02-26, 11:04 PM
That's awesome. And pretty OK, survival-of-Creation-wise. For the time being.
Given this new information, Operation Drop An Enormous Piece of Yu-Shan To Seal Up Oblivion What Could Possibly Go Wrong should be put on hold. Given Szoreny it'll probably get reflected and bounce back up, devastating whatever's left of the Celestial Bureaucracy. And even if it doesn't, booting Isidoros and Szoreny into the Underworld isn't a great idea at the moment.

Short-term, the main problems are:
*Hordes of Gremlins
*Hordes of Darkbrood
*The Daystar going rogue and spreading drought, pestilence, firestorms, etc., and releasing whatever the three horrible beings in the Ward of the Dragon are.
*FAFL is being FAFL.

As a stopgap, send rogue Abyssals after the Gremlins and Darkbrood. They're designed to slaughter things. Then get a crew to the Daystar, so it stops scourging the earth and can be used to bombard whatever horrible things are out there. Until you get a crew in and get them in control, get as many mortals as possible to pray to the UCS to keep the Daystar calm. Once you've got the Daystar, it's a simple matter of bombarding everything bad in Creation from orbit. It also might be worth shooting the Dragon and the Engine of Extinction with the Apollyon Cannon just in case it can destroy them.

Aaaaand you need to fight a war with FAFL. Hopefully the Daystar can just blow up his armies, if not then fight a war.

Longer-term problems:
*Next Calibration, demons will come flooding into the world through something at least the size of the Blessed Isle.
*The Lunars are going to start turning into Chimerae.
*TED and the Engine might get violent.
*In the fight between Her Redness and the Neverborn, someone is going to win.
*The other Deathlords will do things.

Szoreny taking the place of the Elemental Pole of Earth isn't the worst thing in the world. Reformed Infernals need to get cracking on making nice and friendly Szoreny charms, and social-fu types need to go persuade mortals that the ground turning shiny and filling with visions of hell isn't all that bad.

You might want to get thaumaturges and low-level sorcerers to put some wards around the crater in case horrible underworld things manage to squeeze out past Isidoros. You definitely want to get sorcerers warding as much Szoreny-ground as possible, to reduce the size of next Calibration's demon-invasion. If Five Days Darkness is still alive, and the Bureau of Seasons is still operational, it'll probably be possible to delay Calibration, which would be smart.

You could try to send some Soulsteel Alchemicals and Abyssals to talk to the Engine of Extinction and convince him to build some nice things, like moonsilver and orichalcum. Probably not going to work, since he's probably double asleep and also probably bent on destroying Creation, but might be worth a try.

If The Ebon Dragon is being himself-like, getting some full-time flatterers/ torture recipients to keep him happy and only betraying things in his immediate surroundings should be smart.

Meanwhile, Eclipses and Moonshadows need to get to the Celestial Bureaucracy and start going through files until one of them learns either The King Is Dead or Willing Assumption of Chains. WAoC will take longer but will definitely work. TKID might not work since they're all dead; hopefully Gaia counts as a superior for its purposes. If not, you might have to get Malfeas's approval, and that would be bad.
Anyway, once that's done, you can figure out who to make into the new Incarnae. High Virtue and general sanity are probably the best criteria.

Sydonai
2011-02-27, 12:04 AM
Szoreny's only remark so far is that he'll keep demons from escaping through him, now all we have to worry about are mirrors, pools of still water, and shiny metal.

The Dragon That Was doesn't count as The Ebon Dragon as far as charms are concerned, so his charmset is locked to Fiends and open to MoonShadows. In exchange the Fiends all got Swollowing The Scorpion for free, and the Moonshadows now all have an Ophidian Urge. We don't think that The Dragon is doing this consciously since he still only says things like "LOL I'M TE EMPRAH LOL"( his laughter appears to make people emo and/or suicidal).

The Engine is in a coma, this doens't stop him from sending out psychic visions that drive his former inhabitants insane, he doesn't want to destroy creation.....he only wants to turn it into a techno-organic nightmare where humans get plugged into a Matrix-expy, he wants to use their prayers as pain-meds.

The worst bit now; the DOWAGER is in the Daystar, and has brought along all her Chibi-Deathknights, she keeps turning it different colors.

edit:Someone convinced the Dowager to fire at The Engine, it woke him up long enough to say Thank-you. He thought she was trying to help "end the pain".

Apparently neverborn can't die becuase they are already dead.
We think that we if we can push them into the Wyld they'll become Unshaped, but we aren't sure what would be worse; two Neverborn or two new Shinma.

Ganurath
2011-02-27, 12:05 AM
Give Isidoros something more productive to charge at, pointing out that he's charged at it enough to prove the point and that there are more actively dangerous axioms to destroy, such as the endurance of the Neverborn or the military success record of Deathlords. That should direct his attention away from Oblivion itself and deal with the Neverborn problem in general. With Szoreny freed up, he can reflect on the creation of the original Incarnae with whatever remains Madame Marthesine can muster from her horde. See if she has the Elemental Pole of Earth while you're there.

Also, talk to Nara'o, the God of Secrets Only One Person Knows. He might be able to tell about the replacement Elemental Pole of Earth in Gethamane, and it's canon that he knows about the Great Curse. Since Szoreny is already working reflective miracles in Yu'Shan, he can make the Great Blessing. No idea what it'll do, but it'll be awesome.

If Szoreny can't make new incarnae, there are viable substitutes available. Sessen Douji's Essence should be 10 right now, his Virtues average at 4, and he was mentored by Jupiter herself. I think she was grooming him to replace the Unconquered Sun when the time came. Wayang could replace Saturn, Nara'o Jupiter, Hu Dai Liang Mars, Yaogin Venus, and Ruvia Mercury. Unless the Bureau of Destiny was wiped out as well... Grala, Mistress of the Endless Hunt, could replace Luna in a pinch. If the pasts of the old Incarnae were reflected onto these deities by Szoreny... Who's to say?

Also, the Daystar needs to be highjacked from the Dowager. I think now's as good a time as any to point out that Isidoros and Szoreny have Third, Second, and First Circle Souls that are more than able to kick a lone Deathlord and her chibis in the teeth, especially with help from the PCs.

Sydonai
2011-02-27, 12:33 AM
No-one but Nara-O knows where Nara-O is. The only gods alive in Yu Shan are loyal to the Yozi, but they aren't sure which Yozi to be loyal to; Malfeas or Szoreny.
(some of the gods made it to Creation, but we don't know which ones, they are all in hiding until things cool down)

The "can't be killed" Neverborn in Oblivion are having a metaphorical pi$$ing contest with Isidorus, It can't be destroyed becuase it is destruction, The Neverborn can't die because they already have, and Isidorus can't be destroyed by it becuase he has a charm called Exception To The Rule( it negates broad-spectrum effects like "kill everything in range" as long as he doesn't give up or change his tactics). Szoreny is to busy trying to stop Isidorus from fully entering Oblivion(which he may or may not be able to get out of) to effect anything not directly connected to his Jouten. Their Third Circles are trying to act like generals( not really working) and sending their collective army of First Circles against the Gremlins(Isidorus) and Darkbrood/Undead(Szoreny).


edit: In case you didn't understand, Isidorus can't stop charging or he'll probably die, the only way he can get out is if Szoreny pulls him out, and Szoreny can't use any more or less force than Isidorus is.

Edit again: The Engine's deathcurse replaced all Clarity with Dissonance, we don't know what The Dragon did.

Sydonai
2011-02-27, 12:47 AM
The Righteous Dead are helping fight the ....unRighteous Dead, the Abyssals are helping one side or the other depending on their loyalties.

The Infernals are all trying to become Neo-Primordials, and the "good" Demons are helping them; "Demons:Lord Szoreny and Lord Isidorus would want new siblings, We are sure thats what they would say if they could talk." "Yozi:........"




edit: The Lunars are starting to get Szoreny-Silver tattoos, and the Alchemicals are all starting to look like Apostates, (un)luckily becoming Akuma seems to make them sane(er).

Ganurath
2011-02-27, 12:54 AM
Hmm... If Isidoros can't change tactics, perhaps Szoreny should: Reflect the power Isidoros is employing against the Neverborn.

Find the Dual Monarchs, get them to stop sitting on their thumbs. Kill the Courtier of Silk and Shadow, take over the District Where Shadows Walk from Maru, basically get Stygia away from the enemies of Creation. All that infrastructure the Deathlords were sharing and depending on is now yours, the Darkbrood lose their allies.

There's a faction of Fair Folk that want Creation changed so that the beings native to it can peacefully coexist with Fair Folk, which means no calcification. If the Fair Folk knew the return of Isidoros and Szoreny meant such a change was possible, once Isidoros and Szoreny are done doing their thing. Keep in mind the narrative nature of all parties involved.

Sydonai
2011-02-27, 01:00 AM
Hmm... If Isidoros can't change tactics, perhaps Szoreny should: Reflect the power Isidoros is employing against the Neverborn.

Find the Dual Monarchs, get them to stop sitting on their thumbs. Kill the Courtier of Silk and Shadow, take over the District Where Shadows Walk from Maru, basically get Stygia away from the enemies of Creation. All that infrastructure the Deathlords were sharing and depending on is now yours, the Darkbrood lose their allies.

There's a faction of Fair Folk that want Creation changed so that the beings native to it can peacefully coexist with Fair Folk, which means no calcification. If the Fair Folk knew the return of Isidoros and Szoreny meant such a change was possible, once Isidoros and Szoreny are done doing their thing. Keep in mind the narrative nature of all parties involved.

Szoreny is worried that they'll both die if he does that, and that means that ALL of the Neverborn could enter creation.

Ganurath
2011-02-27, 01:10 AM
The Dual Monarchy, particularly Setesh, are massive boons. He controls the Calendar, and can make it be constantly day in the Underworld, weakening Oblivion and its minions. Eset can manipulate the storms of Oblivion, and Usine has a massive army of jade automata. Nevermind that the Fair Folk are probably the most qualified to kick Oblivion in the teeth: They're pure narrative.

Edit: Nebthys knows the secrets of the living world! Use that know-how!

Sydonai
2011-02-27, 01:18 AM
I'm sorry, but we can't get into the Underworld. There is a FRICKING WAR going on at ALL the shadowlands and cave systems, including the one portal some nimrod tryed to open.




edit:The Lover and Courtier both dissapeared, the favorite theory so far is; "They are trying to seduce each other to death." .......I play with morons.

Mask and Lion are in a duel over who will rule Thorns, and Seven is plotting the horrible deaths of his former circle( who he has killed twice already).

Ganurath
2011-02-27, 01:51 AM
I see... And the Fair Folk? Or what about convincing the Gods to side with Szoreny?

Sydonai
2011-02-27, 04:41 PM
The Fair Folk......are gone. Nobody has seen any since the Wedding, including the Fair Folk that lived in Creation. The closest thing to a Raksha you can find is a Jadeborn or Fae-Blood.

No one wants to go into the Wyld to find out how or why they all disappeared.




There is a five-way war going on;
1:The Mortals and God-Bloods( including alot of beastmen that followed their Lunar sires) are evacuating to Szoreny/"The Blessed Isle"
2:The Gremlins are trying to infect everything( and destroy the Undead, they hate eachother for some reason)
3:The Darkbrood/Stygia are trying to make shadowlands everywhere and dump Creation into the Underworld
4:The Elementals and Gods that are in Creation can't seem to realize that Szoreny and Isidorus aren't loyal to the other Yozi, or that the Neverborn are different from the Yozi, and are trying to kill us all. (I think that we found the Dragon's death-curse)
5:The Righteous Dead may or may not be on our side, but The Pheonix still wants to rule Creation

30% of the Celestial Exalted are helping the Mortals, 10% are too busy with "PRivate Affairs" to help, 20% are dead or missing, and the rest are scattered around the other four "Armies" mostly with Stygia and the Gods.

80% of the Alchemical Exalted are helping the Mortals but the Jade, Orichalcum, and Moonsilver castes need massive repairs and retrofitting, the Jade caste less than the others. 20%(counting the living cities) are loyal to The Engine.

65% of the Terrestrial Exalted survived to this point and the Dynasts are trying to help the mortals, but alot are STILL loyal to the Pheonix. Lookshy has refused to evacuate and they are shooting anyone that gets close.

The Gods in Yu Shan would help, but they are.....somewhat imcompetant, and will only do so if Szoreny orders them to( he can't talk right now).

The Third, Second, and First circle demons of Szoreny and Isidorus are trying to help the Mortals, but many people are still terrified of demons, so they mostly stick to fighting the war.

The Dragon's demons all ceased to exist when he died.

The Elemental Ministers of The Engine survived by becoming Gremlins, and are releasing some kind of......smoking filth into the land and air surrounding Him.

Ganurath
2011-02-27, 04:52 PM
Figures, the Fair Folk usually sit back and watch whenever Creation goes riding a handbasket.

Getting Isidoros and Szoreny free from each other is most likely critical to any hope for Creation. The best way I can imagine to do that is to fill Oblivion with Lethe Venom. If Szoreny can't do that with poison Charms, even with an ample base stock, the best bet is getting control of Stygia. Odds are Stygia is doing what it's doing because an unmentioned Deathlord, probably one of the non-canon ones, is laying down the pressure. Stygia's infrastructure and location make it critical to the survival of Creation.

The gods may not be able to talk to the Yozi directly, but they should take orders from the Third Circle souls of Isidoros and Szoreny. See if you can redirect one or two of the generals.

Also, see if you can find the Sidereal ghosts. They'd still have their MA Charms, and are likely interested in saving Creation.

Sydonai
2011-02-27, 06:51 PM
The Gods in Yushan are just being d#cks as far as we can tell, they got blackmailed into helping with the Lotus Massacre and now they think no-one left can order them around.





By the way, I'm now The Dowager.......Yeah, I don't know how that happened either. One moment I was on an assasination mission to get rid of her, and the next moment my corpse(unmarked) is lying on the ground and I'm in the Dowager's body. Her Deathknights, the few that are still alive, seem to think that "she" killed the "Solar".

On a related note, The First And Forsaken Mask Of The Winter Lion now has control of Thorns.

edit:(note to self: never let the ST watch "Chronicals of Riddick" ever again)

Ganurath
2011-02-27, 07:46 PM
Hmm... Well, being the experimenter that the Dowager is, and being obsessed with the Void as she is, she'll naturally be curious as to why the Engine of Extinction is in conflict with the other Neverborn... As well as whether whatever ties of loyalty hold her and her Abyssals to them apply to all Neverborn, or only those that were dead at the time they were empowered. The most logical course of action is to attack the Engine of Extinction with the Daystar... Or at least scout it out for a reaction. If it's (relatively) friendly, it may be manipulated into aiding in defeating her earstwhile kindred in Thorns. After all, if an incompetent assassin can reach the Dowager, so can a competent one. The Masked Lion seems most able and most motivated to send a competent assassin after the Dowager, so preperations are in order.

Sydonai
2011-02-27, 08:32 PM
The "Smoking filth" that The Engine's Ministers dropped seems to be warping the landscape, I don't want to be anywhere near that......and now my former team are attacking, becuase they think I'm dead, and the ST won't let me tell them that I'm Miss-Loli-Deathlord now.

The Masked Lion seems to have M.P.D., if the same thing happened to me then I may have to do one of those "battle at the center of the psyche" things pretty soon.

Ganurath
2011-02-27, 09:32 PM
Make references that only your character would know. That should slow them down enough to make your case. Unless "your" Abyssals are in earshot, at which point you can pull a slightly uncharacteristic magnificent bastard deal for the Dowager by pointing out your immediate goal for the use of the Daystar, and point out how misguided heroes such as they would benefit from the completion of such an operation.

As for the smoking filth, you're in the Deathlord that's in the Daystar. Get some dots in Valor and remember you're playing Exalted.

Gavinfoxx
2011-02-27, 09:39 PM
*Skims through this thread*

I have no idea what any of this means but it IS AWESOME ANYWAY!

Sydonai
2011-02-28, 01:24 AM
As for the smoking filth, you're in the Deathlord that's in the Daystar. Get some dots in Valor and remember you're playing Exalted.

The "Smoking Filth" appears to be a terraforming agent, it turns anything it touches into a Gremlin, including plants and and hunks of dirt.

And the Engine is in the South, pretty close to where the Lap used to be actually. ".......Why is he suddenly headed toward the Pole of Fire.....shoot, Shoot, SHOOT HIM OUT OF THE SKY!!!"



ST is ending on a cliffhanger, may not get back to this for a week or two.

Okay; normally I'm in charge, Limit break and Dowager is in charge.
Thank you for the help so far. Any advice on long-term tactics?

Ganurath
2011-02-28, 01:49 AM
The Elemental Pole of Fire is in the Wyld, deep enough that there are Unshaped present. If the Daystar has the systems that allow it, have it announce that the big black thing churning out Gremlins was one of the co-creators of Creation, and appears to be seeking to expand its influence into the Wyld. Lies by omission galore, but it's true enough to spur the Unshaped into acting. If anything can take down the Neverborn, it's these New Age Unshaped.

Long term plans are simple enough: Once the immediate threat of the Engine of Extinction has been addressed, either by rousing the Fair Folk or taking him on directly with the Daystar, you need to do two things: Establish Pro-Creation dominance in Stygia, and stop the Masked Lion before he gets out of control. Those will allow you to work on getting Isidoros and Szoreny free, which will in turn get Yu-Shan back in working order.

Before pursuing any of those long-term goals, however, you need to deal with the Dowager. The best way to do that depends on whether or not the personality in the backseat can see through her eyes while the other is in control. If she can, hit her with UMI spam. Undodgable UMI is best, since an inability to use her own mouth means she can't use her PMDV. If she can't, you still use UMI spam, but with written social attacks. Also, set up some sort of codeword with the other players so they can know who's in charge.