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LOTRfan
2011-03-21, 06:30 PM
Alright, so a group of friends and I are about to try 4e (the majority of us are 3.5 holdouts, but there is one new player). I just want to form a list of character races and their sources. So, I'll list the following in alphabetical order. Am I missing any?

Total: 40
Bladeling (Manual of the Planes)
Bugbear (Monster Manual)
Bullywug (Monster Manual II)
Changeling (Eberron Player's Guide)
Deva (Players Handbook II)
Dragonborn (Players Handbook)
Drow (Forgotten Realms Player Guide)
Duergar (Monster Manual II)
Dwarf (Players Handbook)
Eladrin (Players Handbook)
Elf (Players Handbook)
Genasi (Forgotten Realms Player Guide)
Githyanki (Monster Manual)
Githzerai (Players Handbook III)
Gnoll (Dragon 367)
Gnome (Players Handbook II)
Goblin (Monster Manual)
Goliath (Players Handbook II)
Half-Elf (Players Handbook)
Half-Orc (Players Handbook II)
Halfling (Players Handbook)
Hobgoblin (Monster Manual)
Human (Players Handbook)
Kalashtar (Eberron Players Guide)
Kenku (Monster Manual II)
Kobold (Monster Manual)
Minotaur (Players Handbook III)
Mul (Dark Sun Players Guide)
Orc (Monster Manual)
Revenant (Heroes of Shadow)
Shadar-Kai (Monster Manual)
Shade (Heroes of Shadow)
Shardmind (Players Handbook III)
Shifter, Longtooth (Players Handbook II)
Shifter, Razorclaw (Player's Handbook II)
Thri-Kreen (Dark Sun Players Guide)
Tiefling (Players Handbook)
Vryloka (Heroes of Shadow)
Warforged (Eberron Players Guide)
Wilden (Players Handbook III)

mobdrazhar
2011-03-21, 06:39 PM
Shade and Vryloka are Heroes of Shadow, not Horror.

I think the list is otherwise fine without using the races in teh back on the MM's

LOTRfan
2011-03-21, 06:40 PM
Heroes of Shadow seems to fill the same niche that HoH did in 3.5e. That may explain my confusion. What races were in the back of the monster manuals?

Kurald Galain
2011-03-21, 06:45 PM
Bladeling (manual of the planes)

LOTRfan
2011-03-21, 06:46 PM
I'll add that in. Is that the only race in that book?

mobdrazhar
2011-03-21, 06:54 PM
i'm not sure of all the races in the MM's. once i get home i'll give you a full list.

LOTRfan
2011-03-21, 06:56 PM
Thank you.

Does anyone know what races were published in Dragon (excluding Minotaur and Revenant)?

hivedragon
2011-03-21, 06:58 PM
I'm pretty sure it's the githzeri and not the githyanki thats in the PH3

Mando Knight
2011-03-21, 06:59 PM
The Gith in the PHB 3 are the Githzerai, an entirely different race from the Githyanki.

Races detailed only in the Monster Manuals (many of the MM1 races are also in later books) are...
MM1: Bugbears, Githyanki, Goblins, Hobgoblins, Kobolds, Orcs. Also the Shadar-Kai, which are fully detailed in Dragon.
MM2: Bullywugs, Duergar, and Kenku.

Also, it's Wilden, not Wildren.

LOTRfan
2011-03-21, 07:02 PM
I'm pretty sure it's the githzeri and not the githyanki thats in the PH3

I shall make that correction.


The Gith in the PHB 3 are the Githzerai, an entirely different race from the Githyanki.

Races detailed only in the Monster Manuals (many of the MM1 races are also in later books) are...
MM1: Bugbears, Githyanki, Goblins, Hobgoblins, Kobolds, Orcs. Also the Shadar-Kai, which are fully detailed in Dragon.
MM2: Bullywugs, Duergar, and Kenku.

Also, it's Wilden, not Wildren.

I'll add those in and fix the Wilden.

KingFlameHawk
2011-03-21, 07:10 PM
You are still missing the Gnoll (Dragon 367) and the shifter is from PH 2.

Edit: the Half-Orc is from PH2 as well. Other than that I think that is all the offical ones, In the Conpendium there is 38 so if you add the two new from HoS and combine the two shifters that comes out to 39.

LOTRfan
2011-03-21, 07:11 PM
I added them in and made the correction.

LOTRfan
2011-04-02, 10:38 PM
You are still missing the Gnoll (Dragon 367) and the shifter is from PH 2.

Edit: the Half-Orc is from PH2 as well. Other than that I think that is all the offical ones, In the Conpendium there is 38 so if you add the two new from HoS and combine the two shifters that comes out to 39.

Combine the two shifters? There is more than one?

Mando Knight
2011-04-02, 10:58 PM
Combine the two shifters? There is more than one?

Razorclaw and Longtooth. They're kinda like a race-and-a-half, sharing a racial writeup, getting both individual and shared feats, and two different racial statblocks.

LOTRfan
2011-04-02, 11:03 PM
Okay, that explains why I skipped over the other race. I'll separate them on the list.

Vknight
2011-04-02, 11:22 PM
I believe that is all of them

MM3 did not hold any new races, Sadly

hoff
2011-04-03, 09:14 AM
Anyone have that pdf errata/alternative rule with alternative racial ability modifiers (the one with dwarfs +2 wis, +2 con OR +2 str)? I remember seeing it somewhere and I think it have all the playable races.

Amnestic
2011-04-03, 09:30 AM
Anyone have that pdf errata/alternative rule with alternative racial ability modifiers (the one with dwarfs +2 wis, +2 con OR +2 str)? I remember seeing it somewhere and I think it have all the playable races.

Do you mean this one? (http://wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/drag/201103abilities) Dwarfs are +2 Con and +2 Wis/Str, rather than +2 Wis +2 Str/Con.

hoff
2011-04-03, 10:52 AM
Do you mean this one? (http://wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/drag/201103abilities) Dwarfs are +2 Con and +2 Wis/Str, rather than +2 Wis +2 Str/Con.

Exactly, thank you :smallsmile:

Christopher K.
2011-04-04, 01:21 PM
Alluria's got a 3rd party book of additional races, if you're including those.

(Though to be honest, I've heard that they aren't very appealing)

LOTRfan
2011-04-04, 04:36 PM
Alluria's got a 3rd party book of additional races, if you're including those.

(Though to be honest, I've heard that they aren't very appealing)

Interesting....

I think I'll leave the list for official races, but what was this book called?

Christopher K.
2011-04-04, 04:39 PM
Remarkable Races, I believe. They also have a couple of 3rd party classes that look somewhat interesting.

LOTRfan
2011-04-13, 09:28 PM
Are there any mechanical differences between the different types of Genasi?

Sinon
2011-04-13, 09:55 PM
Yes.

Based on their Elemental Manifestation, they get different defense bonuses or resistances, or abilities, and different racial powers.

Kurald Galain
2011-04-14, 01:25 AM
Are there any mechanical differences between the different types of Genasi?
Yes. There are, I think, thirteen of them: five normal ones, four abyssals, and four athasian.