Feytalist
2011-04-01, 08:34 AM
This might have been discussed already, but I would like some clarification.
What is the exact changes to a character using the polymorph spell? (or equivalent ability, like wildshape / alternate form / etc.)
Specifically, HD and hp.
Let's say we have a young adult bronze dragon (18 HD) with the alternate form ability that shifts into a common housecat. Now, for all intents and purposes, does that cat/dragon have 1 HD and 4 hit points? Or, put in another way, is it then possible to kill that dragon/cat with a sling stone throwed by a commoner? Logic wishes to disagree.
What about that same dragon shifting into a human? There's no "base" human, unless we count a lvl 1 commoner with 11 Str, 10 Dex and 10 Con. But why would a dragon shift into that. Can the dragon instead shift into a level 18 human (of whatever class), with the exact same physical ability scores as itself? That might make more sense, as a dragon, in whatever form, should still be powerful.
I'm not too worried about what happens to extraordinary/supernatural attacks/abilities, as I think I've got a good grip on that.
Another question regarding the druid's whildshape:
Now, it's known that the druid cannot morph into a creature (animal/plant/whatever) with more HD than he has caster levels. Now, lets say a level 14 druid wants to wild shape into a dire bear, with 12 HD. But what about an advanced dire bear? (advanced to 14 HD, of course.) Now, if that is possible, is it necessary for the druid to have ever seen an advanced dire bear? Or just the normal kind ("I what to be that, only... larger").
Thoughts, comments?
What is the exact changes to a character using the polymorph spell? (or equivalent ability, like wildshape / alternate form / etc.)
Specifically, HD and hp.
Let's say we have a young adult bronze dragon (18 HD) with the alternate form ability that shifts into a common housecat. Now, for all intents and purposes, does that cat/dragon have 1 HD and 4 hit points? Or, put in another way, is it then possible to kill that dragon/cat with a sling stone throwed by a commoner? Logic wishes to disagree.
What about that same dragon shifting into a human? There's no "base" human, unless we count a lvl 1 commoner with 11 Str, 10 Dex and 10 Con. But why would a dragon shift into that. Can the dragon instead shift into a level 18 human (of whatever class), with the exact same physical ability scores as itself? That might make more sense, as a dragon, in whatever form, should still be powerful.
I'm not too worried about what happens to extraordinary/supernatural attacks/abilities, as I think I've got a good grip on that.
Another question regarding the druid's whildshape:
Now, it's known that the druid cannot morph into a creature (animal/plant/whatever) with more HD than he has caster levels. Now, lets say a level 14 druid wants to wild shape into a dire bear, with 12 HD. But what about an advanced dire bear? (advanced to 14 HD, of course.) Now, if that is possible, is it necessary for the druid to have ever seen an advanced dire bear? Or just the normal kind ("I what to be that, only... larger").
Thoughts, comments?