Malack's Book?

[Psyren]

I'm asking, of course, about the one Durkon borrows here. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0739.html)

Has anyone figured out what exactly he checked out of Chekhov's library?

[Shale]

It's for the spell he developed here. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0750.html)

Which is the one he and Roy were talking about here. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0672.html)

[Psyren]

It's for the spell he developed here. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0750.html)

Which is the one he and Roy were talking about here. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0672.html)

Good catch, I had forgotten both of those!

I hope he gets more than one spell out of the book though. And I love Malack's spell editing.

[Cisturn]

are you sure, the spell in question would be Mass Death Ward, which is an eighth level spell, Durkon's powerful but I don't think he's quite at that level yet.

[Moriarty]

are you sure, the spell in question would be Mass Death Ward, which is an eighth level spell, Durkon's powerful but I don't think he's quite at that level yet.

which is why he couldn't create the scroll himself and had to ask Malack for help.

[factotum]

He only has to be 15th level to cast that spell. We know he was at least 13th level at the Battle of Azure City, and he and the others on the fleet have been fighting an awful lot since then...wouldn't surprise me at all for him to be 15th level by now.

[Thalnawr]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Durkon is 15th level, at least if we assume that the Order started out at the same level. He was earning XP alongside V during the Don't Split the Party arc, who HAS (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0716.html) cast an 8th level spell (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/powerWordStun.htm) in-comic.

[thubby]

Chekhov's library?

is the place actually named that?
if so everything that happens there needs a LOT more scrutiny.

[Tjarnet]

is the place actually named that?
if so everything that happens there needs a LOT more scrutiny.
But inevitably, the book you didn't scrutinize closely will turn out to be the one you need/the Necronomicon/the last piece of the puzzle/etc.

[Swordpriest]

is the place actually named that?
if so everything that happens there needs a LOT more scrutiny.

No, it isn't. It's just the super-irritating invasion of TVTropes into every other friggin' sentence on these forums :smallsigh:. Carry on.

[martianmister]

No, it isn't. It's just the super-irritating invasion of TVTropes into every other friggin' sentence on these forums :smallsigh:. Carry on.

1. Chekhov's Gun isn't even a term originated in TV Tropes. {{scrubbed}}
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chekhov_Library

[Alchemist_Fire]

To pull the conversation in a different direction:

Durkon states in the referenced comic, "Ye sure ye dinnae mind if'n I borrow this book? I dinnae know when I may get ta return it, if ever." That's not the kind of statement made to someone who will be just down the hall if a quick correction is needed on a scroll. It's possible that the black book in #739 is the same as in #750, and perhaps Durkon is just making best use of his downtime. If the spell that he's copying is the one referenced in #672, then I think there are more spells that he'll try to learn before the final battle.

EDIT: Conversing with a friend of mine on this very subject, he also pointed out Malack's comment about the subject matter being easily replaceable for him. This implies either that the negative energy spell Durkon is researching is easier to obtain in the deep end of the alignment pool (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0645.html), or that the spell Durkon was copying was not complicated enough to be the spell in question.

[thubby]

EDIT: Conversing with a friend of mine on this very subject, he also pointed out Malack's comment about the subject matter being easily replaceable for him. This implies either that the negative energy spell Durkon is researching is easier to obtain in the deep end of the alignment pool (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0645.html), or that the spell Durkon was copying was not complicated enough to be the spell in question.

or perhaps its mundane magical research notes. getting a copy would be just a matter of having a scribe rewrite it.

[Innis Cabal]

To pull the conversation in a different direction:

Durkon states in the referenced comic, "Ye sure ye dinnae mind if'n I borrow this book? I dinnae know when I may get ta return it, if ever." That's not the kind of statement made to someone who will be just down the hall if a quick correction is needed on a scroll. It's possible that the black book in #739 is the same as in #750, and perhaps Durkon is just making best use of his downtime. If the spell that he's copying is the one referenced in #672, then I think there are more spells that he'll try to learn before the final battle.

EDIT: Conversing with a friend of mine on this very subject, he also pointed out Malack's comment about the subject matter being easily replaceable for him. This implies either that the negative energy spell Durkon is researching is easier to obtain in the deep end of the alignment pool (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0645.html), or that the spell Durkon was copying was not complicated enough to be the spell in question.

Clerics do not have to research spells. They know all the spells on their list that their Alignment allows.

[Ancalagon]

Clerics do not have to research spells. They know all the spells on their list that their Alignment allows.

... yes, indeed. But they can also research "new" spells. "New" spells are not ones that exist somewhere but that a character/player create. This is what Durkon is doing as there's no "mass" version in any spell list of the spell he wants.

[Caractacus]

I liked the fact that on the Macebook page there's a paladin of Marduk, Kotor, who says he's "smackin dragons, yo", updates his location, and then joins the group 'Need a Rez'... :smallbiggrin:

[Nevereatcars]

I liked the fact that on the Macebook page there's a paladin of Marduk, Kotor, who says he's "smackin dragons, yo", updates his location, and then joins the group 'Need a Rez'... :smallbiggrin:

Thats almost slightly off topic.

[Psyren]

No, it isn't. It's just the super-irritating invasion of TVTropes into every other friggin' sentence on these forums :smallsigh:. Carry on.

An fantasy comic/rpg forum is an odd place to complain about the usage of tropes, don't you think? :smalltongue:


To pull the conversation in a different direction:

Durkon states in the referenced comic, "Ye sure ye dinnae mind if'n I borrow this book? I dinnae know when I may get ta return it, if ever." That's not the kind of statement made to someone who will be just down the hall if a quick correction is needed on a scroll. It's possible that the black book in #739 is the same as in #750, and perhaps Durkon is just making best use of his downtime. If the spell that he's copying is the one referenced in #672, then I think there are more spells that he'll try to learn before the final battle.

Excellent point. I too think he'll get more than one spell out of the book, otherwise he'd have just returned it to Malack as soon as he worked out the kinks in the one he successfully researched. (Being super-Lawful and all.)


... yes, indeed. But they can also research "new" spells. "New" spells are not ones that exist somewhere but that a character/player create. This is what Durkon is doing as there's no "mass" version in any spell list of the spell he wants.

Correct - "spell research" is a way for the DM (Rich in this case) to sanction homebrewed spells without having the gods drop the info directly into the characters' heads.