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Drakevarg
2011-04-19, 07:05 PM
I've been using this class in my campaigns for a while now, with pretty good results. However, a few things have been bothering me with it, which I'm remedying here. First, the basic mission statement:

This class is meant be a hybrid of all of the stealth-oriented base classes I have access to. It is intended to be completely mundane, meaning no (Sp) or (Su) abilities, period.

With that in mind, a few things bothered me;

1) Despite me frequently using this class for my campaign's hunters, this class did not have Survival as a class skill, nor the Favored Enemy ability.
2) Its Combat Style choices were quite limited. I wanted to, at the very least, add the Unarmed Combat style back to it, as a sort of martial artist concept. I might incorporate a few Monk abilities later as well for the same reason.
3) Some of the skills in the game were redundant or should have been merged into the same skill. This changes are included as a supplement.

That's all I can think of at this moment, so without further ado:

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Forgery/Use Rope --> Sleight of Hand
Search --> Spot
Open Lock --> Disable Device
Balance/Escape Artist/Tumble --> Dexterity
Craft --> Profession
Appraise/Spellcraft/Survival --> Knowledge ([Topic most related to object]/Arcana/Nature, respectively.)
Hide/Move Silently --> Stealth

(Note: Diplomacy, Gather Information and Intimidate are all now handled entirely through RP.)

ROGUE
Hit Dice: d6
Attributes: Dexterity, Intelligence

Class Skills
Bluff (CHA)
Climb (STR)
Disable Device (INT)
Disguise (CHA)
Heal (WIS)
Jump (STR)
Knowledge (INT)
Listen (WIS)
Perform (CHA)
Profession (INT)
Sense Motive (WIS)
Sleight of Hand (DEX)
Spot (WIS)
Stealth (DEX)
Swim (STR)
Skill Points: 8

Class Features
Weapon and Armor Proficiency: Rogues are proficience with all simple and martial light, one handed, and ranged weapons. They are proficient with light armor, but not with shields.
Favored Enemy (Ex): At 1st level, the Rogue may select a type of creature from among those given on the table below. The Rogue gains a +2 bonus on Bluff, Knowledge, Listen, Spot, and Sense Motive checks when using these skills against creatures of this type. Likewise, he gets a +2 bonus on weapon damage rolls against such creatures.
Sneak Attack (Ex): If a Rogue can catch an opponent when they are unable to defend themselves effectively from their attack, they can strike a vital spot for extra damage. Basically, the Rogue's attack deals extra damage any time their target would be denied a Dexterity bonus to AC (whether the target actually has a Dexterity bonus or not), or when the Rogue flanks their target. This extra damage is 1d6 at 1st level, and it increases by 1d6 every two levels thereafter. Should the Rogue score a critical hit with a sneak attack, this extra damage is not multiplied.
Ranged attacks can count as sneak attacks only if the target is within 30 feet. A Rogue can't strike with deadly accuracy beyond that range. With a sap or unarmed strike, a Rogue can make a sneak attack that deals nonlethal damage instead of lethal damage. They cannot use a weapon that deals lethal damage to deal nonlethal damage in a sneak attack, not even with the usual -4 penalty, because they must make optimal use of their weapon in order to execute a sneak attack. A Rogue can sneak attack only living creatures with discernible anatomies -- constructs and incorporeal creatures lack vital areas to attack. The Rogue must also be able to see the target well enough to pick out a vital spot and must be able to reach such a spot. A rogue cannot sneak attack while striking a creature with concealment or striking the limbs of a creature whose vitals are beyond reach.
Weapon Finesse (Ex): A Rogue gains Weapon Finesse as a bonus feat at 1st level, even if they do not qualify for the feat.
Grace (Ex): A Rogue gains a +1 competence bonus on Reflex Saves at 1st level. This bonus increases to +2 at 10th level and to +3 at 20th level. A Rogue loses this bonus when wearing medium or heavy armor or when carrying a medium or heavy load.
Combat Style (Ex): At 2nd level, the Rogue must choose between three combat styles to pursue: Archery, Two-Weapon Combat, or Unarmed Combat. They receive the appropriate bonus feat, listed below, even if they do not meet the prerequisites for that feat:
Archery - Rapid Shot
Two-Weapon Combat - Two-Weapon Fighting
Unarmed Combat - Stunning Fist
Evasion (Ex): At 2nd level and higher, a Rogue can avoid even magical and unusual attacks with great agility. If they make a successful Reflex saving throw against an attack that normally deals half damage on a successful save, they instead take no damage. Evasion can be used only if the Rogue is wearing light or no armor. A helpless rogue does not gain the benefit of evasion.
Insightful Strike (Ex): At 3rd level, a Rogue becomes able to place their finesse attacks where they deal greater damage. They apply their Intelligence bonus (if any) as a bonus on damage rolls (in addition to any Strength bonus they may have) with any weapon to which the Rogue can apply their Dexterity bonus to attack rolls. Targets immune to sneak attacks or critical hits are immune to the Rogue's insightful strike.
Uncanny Dodge (Ex): At 4th level, a Rogue retains their Dexterity bonus to AC (if any) even if they are caught flat-footed or struck by an invisible attacker. However, they still lose their Dexterity bonus to AC if immobilized. If a Rogue already has Uncanny Dodge from a different class, they automatically gain Improved Uncanny Dodge instead.
Dodge Bonus (Ex): A Rogue is trained at focusing their defenses on a single opponent in melee. During their action, they may designate an opponent and receive a +1 dodge bonus to Armor Class against melee attacks from that opponent. They can select a new opponent on any action. This bonus increases by +1 every five levels after 5th (+2 at 10th, +3 at 15th, and +4 at 20th). A Rogue loses this bonus when wearing medium or heavy armor or carrying a medium or heavy load.
If the Rogue also has the Dodge feat, they need not designate the same target for this ability as for the Dodge feat. (If they designate the same target, the bonuses stack.)
Improved Combat Style (Ex): At 6th level, the Rogue's aptitude for their chosen combat style improves. They receive the appropriate bonus feat, listed below, even if they do not meet the prerequisites for that feat:
Archery - Manyshot
Two-Weapon Combat - Improved Two-Weapon Fighting
Unarmed Combat - Fists of Iron
Acrobatic Charge (Ex): A Rogue of 7th level or higher can charge in situations where others cannot. They may charge over difficult terrain that normally slows movement or allies blocking their path. This ability enables them to run down steep stairs, leap down from a balconu, or tumble over tables to get to their target. Depending on the circumstance, they may still need to make appropriate checks (Jump or Tumble checks, in particular) to successfully move over the terrain.
Improved Uncanny Dodge (Ex): At 8th level and higher, a Rogue can no longer be flanked. This defense denies another Rogue the ability to sneak attack the Rogue by flanking them, unless the attacker has at least four more Rogue levels than the target has Rogue levels. If a character already has Uncanny Dodge from a second class, the character automatically gains Improved Uncanny Dodge instead, and the levels from the classes that grant Uncanny Dodge stack to determine the minimum level a Rogue must be to flank the character.
Improved Flanking (Ex): A Rogue of 8th level or higher who is flanking an opponent gains a +4 bonus on attacks instead of a +2 bonus on attacks. (Othr characters flanking with the Rogue don't gain this increased bonus.)
Improved Evasion (Ex): At 10th level and higher, while a Rogue still takes no damage on a successful Reflex saving throw against attacks that normally deal half damage on a successful save, henceforth they take only half damage on a failed save. A helpless Rogue does not gain the benefit of improved evasion.
Combat Style Mastery (Ex): At 11th level, the Rogue's aptitude in their chosen combat style improves again. They receive the appropriate bonus feat, listed below, even if they do not meet the prerequisites for that feat:
Archery - Improved Rapid Shot
Two-Weapon Combat - Greater Two-Weapon Fighting
Unarmed Combat - Freezing the Lifeblood
Camouflage (Ex): A Rogue of 12th level or higher can use the Hide skill in any sort of terrain, even if the terrain doesn't grant cover or concealment.
Acrobatic Skill Mastery (Ex): At 14th level, a Rogue becomes so certain in the use of their acrobatic skills that they can use them reliably even under sever adverse conditions. When making a Jump or Tumble check, a Rogue may take 10 even if stress and distractions would normally prevent them from doing so.
Weakening Critical (Ex): A Rogue of14th level or higher who scores a critical hit or sneak attack against a creature also deals 2 points of Strength damage to the creature. Creatures immune to critical hits are immune to this effect.
Hide in Plain Sight (Ex): While in any sort of terrain, a Rogue of 16th level or higher can use the Hide skill even while being observed.
Wounding Critical (Ex): A Rogue of 18th level or higher who scores a critical hit or sneak attack against a creature also deals 2 points of Constitution damage to the creature. (This damage is in addition to the Strength damage dealt by the Rogue's weakening critical class feature.) Creatures immune to critical hits are immune to this effect.

{table=head]Favored Enemies
Animal
Construct
Human
Outsider[/table]

The Rogue
{table=head]Level|Base Attack Bonus|Fort Save|Ref Save|Will Save|Special

1st|
+0|
+0|
+2|
+0|1st Favored Enemy, Sneak Attack +1d6, Weapon Finesse, Grace +1

2nd|
+1|
+0|
+3|
+0|Combat Style, Evasion

3rd|
+2|
+1|
+3|
+1|Sneak Attack +2d6, Insightful Strike

4th|
+3|
+1|
+4|
+1|Uncanny Dodge

5th|
+3|
+1|
+4|
+1|Sneak Attack +3d6, Dodge Bonus +1

6th|
+4|
+2|
+5|
+2|2nd Favored Enemy, Improved Combat Style

7th|
+5|
+2|
+5|
+2|Sneak Attack +4d6, Acrobatic Charge

8th|
+6/+1|
+2|
+6|
+2|Improved Uncanny Dodge, Improved Flanking

9th|
+6/+1|
+3|
+6|
+3|Sneak Attack +5d6

10th|
+7/+2|
+3|
+7|
+3|Improved Evasion, Dodge Bonus +2, Grace +2

11th|
+8/+3|
+3|
+7|
+3|Sneak Attack +6d6, Combat Style Mastery

12th|
+9/+4|
+4|
+8|
+4|3rd Favored Enemey, Camouflage

13th|
+9/+4|
+4|
+8|
+4|Sneak Attack +7d6

14th|
+10/+5|
+4|
+9|
+4|Acrobatic Skill Mastery, Weakening Critical

15th|
+11/+6/+1|
+5|
+9|
+5|Sneak Attack +8d6, Dodge Bonus +3

16th|
+12/+7/+2|
+5|
+10|
+5|Hide in Plain Sight

17th|
+12/+7/+2|
+5|
+10|
+5|Sneak Attack +9d6

18th|
+13/+8/+3|
+6|
+11|
+6|4th Favored Enemey, Wounding Critical

19th|
+14/+9/+4|
+6|
+11|
+6|Sneak Attack +10d6

20th|
+15/+10/+5|
+6|
+12|
+6|Dodge Bonus +4, Grace +3[/table]

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I might revise the Warrior later as well, giving it the Archery Combat Style and making sure its skills are in line with my revised list up there.

Elfstone
2011-04-20, 12:09 AM
It looks like you smooshed Rouge, Ranger, and a bit of swashbuckler in one class.... What do you want us to say?

Drakevarg
2011-04-20, 12:42 AM
It looks like you smooshed Rouge, Ranger, and a bit of swashbuckler in one class.... What do you want us to say?

*shrug* Check for balance, mostly.