my first time making a lycanthrope.... am I doing this right?

[big teej]

greetings playgrounders, I recently became obbsessed with a character concept.

a Were-Bison.

however, having never made a lycanthrope before, I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. so here I am posting my charactersheet for critique/double checking.

I've only finished the human form so far, but I'm working on the hybrid and animal forms now.

of course, if someone could confirm my understanding that the animal form is JUST like the normal animal that would make life easy for me.

anyways, I present
Bill, Were-Bison, Human form


Character name: Bill Player name:
Class and level: Were-Bison Race: Human (shapechanger)
Alignment: True neutral Deity:

Size: Medium Age: 24 Gender: Male Height: 6’4 Weight: 320 lbs
Eyes: black Hair: shaggy, dark brown Skin: fair
Theme song:
Form: Human

Hit points: 8 + con + 4d8 + 4con
AC: 10 + dex + armor + shield + NA + misc
BAB: +3
Strength: 14
Dexterity: 13
Constitution: 17
Intelligence: 13
Wisdom: 15
Charisma: 12
Base stats: 14, 17, 13, 13, 13, 12

Saving throws
Will: + 3
Fortitude: + 7
Reflex: + 5

Speed: /30 ft
Vision: lowlight vision

Racial features
Extra Feat at Creation
Extra 4 skill points at creation
Extra 1 skill point per level
Low light vision
Scent
Bonus feat – Iron will
+ 2 natural armor
Alternate form
Lycanthropic empathy
Curse of lycanthropy
Afflicted lycanthrope
DR5/silver





Class features
No class levels

Feats taken
1 for creation
1 for human
1 for ‘3rd’ level
Iron will

Skills 2+ int x 5
X ranks in spot
X ranks in listen

Weapons in use
Pending shopping

Equipment/gear:
Pending shopping

Items and possessions
Pending shopping

Languages: common + 1 bonus langauge

XP: 3,000

Money: as 3rd level character

Heroic achievements:

To do list

[The Dark Fiddler]

I just want to say that, if I'm remembering correctly, the animal you use technically has to be a carnivore.

If I weren't busy at the moment I'd give this a closer look-through, and maybe I will when I've finished what I'm doing at the moment. Sorry.

[big teej]

I just want to say that, if I'm remembering correctly, the animal you use technically has to be a carnivore.

If I weren't busy at the moment I'd give this a closer look-through, and maybe I will when I've finished what I'm doing at the moment. Sorry.

unless someone can find precedent for bison being omnivorous or scavengers you may be correct,

but given that I just finished the hybrid sheet, that's not going to stop me.

so here's the hybrid section.



Character name: Bill Player name:
Class and level: Were-Bison Race: Human (shapechanger)
Alignment: True neutral Deity:

Size: Large Age: 24 Gender: Male Height: 10’0 Weight: 720 lbs
Eyes: black Hair: shaggy, dark brown Skin: fair
Theme song:
Form: Hybrid

Hit points: 8 + con + 4d8 + 4con
AC: 10 + dex + armor + shield + NA + misc
BAB: +6
Strength: 22
Dexterity: 13
Constitution: 17
Intelligence: 13
Wisdom: 15
Charisma: 12
Base stats: 14, 17, 13, 13, 13, 12

Saving throws
Will: + 3
Fortitude: + 7
Reflex: + 5

Speed: /30 ft
Vision: lowlight vision

Racial features
Extra Feat at Creation
Extra 4 skill points at creation
Extra 1 skill point per level
Low light vision
Scent
Bonus feat – Iron will
+ 2 natural armor
Alternate form
Lycanthropic empathy
Curse of lycanthropy
Afflicted lycanthrope
DR5/silver
Natural weapons:
Claws – 1d6
Bite – 1d8
Special attack: stampede
Class features
No class levels

Feats taken
1 for creation
1 for human
1 for ‘3rd’ level
Iron will
Alertness
Endurance

Skills 2+ int x 5
X ranks in spot
X ranks in listen

Weapons in use
Pending shopping

Equipment/gear:
Pending shopping

Items and possessions
Pending shopping

Languages: common + 1 bonus langauge

XP: 3,000

Money: as 3rd level character

Heroic achievements:

To do list





EDIT:
as near as I can tell, the animal form has nearly identical stats to the hybrid, so here's the animal version with changes made for intelligence, height/weight, and...... yea thats it.



Character name: Bill Player name:
Class and level: Were-Bison Race: Human (shapechanger)
Alignment: True neutral Deity:

Size: Medium Age: 24 Gender: Male Height: 6’4 Weight: 320 lbs
Eyes: black Hair: shaggy, dark brown Skin: fair
Theme song:
Form: Human

Hit points: 8 + con + 4d8 + 4con
AC: 10 + dex + armor + shield + NA + misc
BAB: +3
Strength: 14
Dexterity: 13
Constitution: 17
Intelligence: 13
Wisdom: 15
Charisma: 12
Base stats: 14, 17, 13, 13, 13, 12

Saving throws
Will: + 3
Fortitude: + 7
Reflex: + 5

Speed: /30 ft
Vision: lowlight vision

Racial features
Extra Feat at Creation
Extra 4 skill points at creation
Extra 1 skill point per level
Low light vision
Scent
Bonus feat – Iron will
+ 2 natural armor
Alternate form
Lycanthropic empathy
Curse of lycanthropy
Afflicted lycanthrope
DR5/silver





Class features
No class levels

Feats taken
1 for creation
1 for human
1 for ‘3rd’ level
Iron will

Skills 2+ int x 5
X ranks in spot
X ranks in listen

Weapons in use
Pending shopping

Equipment/gear:
Pending shopping

Items and possessions
Pending shopping

Languages: common + 1 bonus langauge

XP: 3,000

Money: as 3rd level character

Heroic achievements:

To do list









 

Character name: Bill Player name:
Class and level: Were-Bison Race: Human (shapechanger)
Alignment: True neutral Deity:

Size: Large Age: 24 Gender: Male Height: 10’0 Weight: 720 lbs
Eyes: black Hair: shaggy, dark brown Skin: fair
Theme song:
Form: Hybrid

Hit points: 8 + con + 4d8 + 4con
AC: 10 + dex + armor + shield + NA + misc
BAB: +6
Strength: 22
Dexterity: 13
Constitution: 17
Intelligence: 13
Wisdom: 15
Charisma: 12
Base stats: 14, 17, 13, 13, 13, 12

Saving throws
Will: + 3
Fortitude: + 7
Reflex: + 5

Speed: /30 ft
Vision: lowlight vision

Racial features
Extra Feat at Creation
Extra 4 skill points at creation
Extra 1 skill point per level
Low light vision
Scent
Bonus feat – Iron will
+ 2 natural armor
Alternate form
Lycanthropic empathy
Curse of lycanthropy
Afflicted lycanthrope
DR5/silver
Natural weapons:
Claws – 1d6
Bite – 1d8
Special attack: stampede
Class features
No class levels

Feats taken
1 for creation
1 for human
1 for ‘3rd’ level
Iron will
Alertness
Endurance

Skills 2+ int x 5
X ranks in spot
X ranks in listen

Weapons in use
Pending shopping

Equipment/gear:
Pending shopping

Items and possessions
Pending shopping

Languages: common + 1 bonus langauge

XP: 3,000

Money: as 3rd level character

Heroic achievements:

To do list









 



Character name: Bill Player name:
Class and level: Were-Bison Race: Human (shapechanger)
Alignment: True neutral Deity:

Size: Large Age: 24 Gender: Male Height: 6’0 Weight: 1,220 lbs
Eyes: black Hair: shaggy, dark brown Skin: fair
Theme song:
Form: animal

Hit points: 8 + con + 4d8 + 4con
AC: 10 + dex + armor + shield + NA + misc
BAB: +6
Strength: 22
Dexterity: 13
Constitution: 17
Intelligence: 3
Wisdom: 5
Charisma: 12
Base stats: 14, 17, 13, 13, 13, 12

Saving throws
Will: + 3
Fortitude: + 7
Reflex: + 5

Speed: /30 ft
Vision: lowlight vision

Racial features
Extra Feat at Creation
Extra 4 skill points at creation
Extra 1 skill point per level
Low light vision
Scent
Bonus feat – Iron will
+ 2 natural armor
Alternate form
Lycanthropic empathy
Curse of lycanthropy
Afflicted lycanthrope
DR5/silver
Natural weapons:
Claws – 1d6
Bite – 1d8
Special attack: stampede
Class features
No class levels

Feats taken
1 for creation
1 for human
1 for ‘3rd’ level
Iron will
Alertness
Endurance

Skills 2+ int x 5
X ranks in spot
X ranks in listen

Weapons in use
Pending shopping

Equipment/gear:
Pending shopping

Items and possessions
Pending shopping

Languages: common + 1 bonus langauge

XP: 3,000

Money: as 3rd level character

Heroic achievements:

To do list








EDIT: EDIT:

here's what I used to make Bill, in all of his forms.

Bison sheet
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Bison

Lycanthropes as characters
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Lycanthrope

animal type
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Animal_Type

[Metahuman1]

Aren't Boar's none Carnavor's? And aren't there were Boars?

[Urpriest]

The creature can be a predator, scavenger, or omnivore. Boars are somewhat the latter two, so they qualify. Bison are a bit trickier. That said, there's nothing unbalanced about it, it's more of a fluff thing.

[Cog]

A lycanthrope's animal HD cannot be its first HD. You need a class level in htere first.

[Urpriest]

A lycanthrope's animal HD cannot be its first HD. You need a class level in htere first.

Isn't that only true for afflicted lycanthropes?

[Cog]

Nope. Look in the skills section.

[Urpriest]

Nope. Look in the skills section.

All the skills section says is that animal HD are never the first HD. I agree with that. I was saying that for natural lycanthropes this forces humanoid/giant HD to be the first HD.

[big teej]

A lycanthrope's animal HD cannot be its first HD. You need a class level in htere first.

I give you BILL THE WERE-BISON WIZARD!!!!!

... I find this image amusing, however, i think I'll go with totemist

or totem rager, so I'll nab that d12 at first level

so I'll go fix that HD issue.

[true_shinken]

Your ECL is all wrong, dude.
You are listed as a level 3 character. But you have 4 animal hit dice, plus level adjustment for lycanthrope. Meaning you're either a level 6 character (afflicted) or a level 7 character (natural).

[Telonius]

The creature can be a predator, scavenger, or omnivore. Boars are somewhat the latter two, so they qualify. Bison are a bit trickier. That said, there's nothing unbalanced about it, it's more of a fluff thing.

I believe the same issue of Dragon that had the infamous "Chicken-Infested" flaw had another flaw called "Were-sheep." Not sure if that counts as an official exception, though. :smallbiggrin:

[big teej]

I believe the same issue of Dragon that had the infamous "Chicken-Infested" flaw had another flaw called "Were-sheep." Not sure if that counts as an official exception, though. :smallbiggrin:

thats good enough for me

any other suggestions before I completely overhaul and fill out the sheets?

any discrepencies/things I did wrong?

stats?
feats?
saves?
anything?

[true_shinken]

any discrepencies/things I did wrong?

As I mentioned before, the effective character level is all wrong.

[big teej]

As I mentioned before, the effective character level is all wrong.

doubly noted, I meant aside from things already mentioned.

also make an exception for another feat, bumping the ECL to 6 grants me another one I know I need to account for.

[Marnath]

doubly noted, I meant aside from things already mentioned.

also make an exception for another feat, bumping the ECL to 6 grants me another one I know I need to account for.

No it doesn't. LA doesn't give you feats.:smallconfused:

[Thrice Dead Cat]

No it doesn't. LA doesn't give you feats.:smallconfused:

As odd as this is bit of trivia is, yeah, level adjustment as the actual line of game "code" means that level dependent things such as ability score increases and feats explicitly require hit dice.:smallsigh:

[big teej]

As odd as this is bit of trivia is, yeah, level adjustment as the actual line of game "code" means that level dependent things such as ability score increases and feats explicitly require hit dice.:smallsigh:

well.....

poo. :smalltongue:

oh well, I haven't gotten around to fixing it yet (my day just started) so no harm done

EDIT:
well, here's the weekend, I'm going to try and get the updates up today.