Binders are just hipster clerics

[Natael]

"What god do you worship?"
"He died like 1000 years ago, you've probably never heard of him" *sips coffee*

[Greenish]

http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~rkhosla/cookie.jpg
You can has it. Not that binders necessarily worship the vestiges.

[Veyr]

Bwahaha, that's awesome.

Of course, Binders don't typically worship Vestiges nor were most of the Vestiges ever gods, but that's besides the point. That's still awesome.

[Lateral]

...And Dragonfire Adepts are sorcerers with halitosis. :smallamused:

[Eldan]

"Oh, you know. He's not from here, he actually lives out side the multiverse. So, yeah. He doesn't really have worshippers right now, so I let him crash in my soul, but he's totally cool."

[The Glyphstone]

It explains why Binders are by-default persecuted by major religions.

[Doc Roc]

"What god do you worship?"
"He died like 1000 years ago, you've probably never heard of him" *sips coffee*

You have gained one Spirit Cookie, good for a small favor from the penny dreadful team.

[Natael]

You have gained one Spirit Cookie, good for a small favor from the penny dreadful team.

Not familiar with them

[Kalaska'Agathas]

"I bound Zcerryll before he sold out."

"Wow, really? That's pretty cool I guess. Me, I bound Naberius before he teamed up with the Triad."

[Eldan]

"No, see, Orcus is totally lame. I'm binding Tenebrous, who split off before Orcus sold out, after that catastrophe with The Last Word."

[Ravens_cry]

And Paladins are Clerics who flunked and are on probation.

[The-Mage-King]

You sir, have just obtained one Minor Favor from The Mage King. Appriciate it.

[Telonius]

"Yeah, that Hellfire Warlock over there makes like he understands the vestiges. But we were binding Eligor before he ever even heard of an Eldritch Blast. Poser."

[Eldan]

My next binder will totally wear hipster glasses and have a single rank in perform: guitar.

[Ranos]

Not familiar with them
You wouldn't have, they're like, totally underground.

[Darth Stabber]

Incarnates are binders who can't commit.

[Eldan]

My next binder will totally wear hipster glasses and have a single rank in perform: guitar.

[Eldan]

Apparently. As a non-American, non-fashion interested, non-music listening shut-in, I'm still not entirely sure what Hipsters are, but all the webcomics seem to be making jokes about them, lately.

[Doc Roc]

You wouldn't have, they're like, totally underground.

But we've definitely got our first gig coming up sometime pretty soon. Just definitely.

[Natael]

Apparently. As a non-American, non-fashion interested, non-music listening shut-in, I'm still not entirely sure what Hipsters are, but all the webcomics seem to be making jokes about them, lately.

They're kind of like beatniks that sit around in starbucks and use apple products.

[Alleine]

oh god, I am SO going to play one of those now. It's gonna be awesome.
Thank you, good sir.

[Mando Knight]

...as an old f@rt who doesn't much follow trends, is it now official - that as Emos replaced Goths as the butt of jokes, now Hipsters have supplanted Emos?

They're in cool jokes. You probably never heard of them.

Hipsters were making hipster jokes before it was cool.

[SaintRidley]

And Paladins are Clerics who flunked and are on probation.


Nah, they're just the football team.


How about necromancers? They're just trying to stay trendy, is all.

Hipster guy: "So, yeah, The Ghouls are totally underground. You probably haven't heard of them."
Necromancer: "Create Undead" Makes ghouls.
Hipster guy: "Man, who listens to The Ghouls? They sold out, like, ages ago."
Necromancer: :smallfurious:

[cfalcon]

Posting in epic threat ;)

[Ravens_cry]

But we've definitely got our first gig coming up sometime pretty soon. Just definitely.
Sell out.:smallamused:

[Eldan]

Yeah, man. I liked Legends Tracks when they were, like, new. But now, they want to actually publish them.

[BIGMamaSloth]

Oh god, you bound Orthos? Everybody binds orthos, I more into the Indie vestiges.


P.s. This thread is the most bestest awesomest thing.

[Eldan]

Are Indie Vestiges The Demented One's homebrew ones? Because they are genuinely awesome.

[BIGMamaSloth]

Ive never heard of them, so probably.

[Morph Bark]

The only thing I never got about hipster jokes was why they use Apple products and go to Starbucks. That's way too mainstream.

[Innis Cabal]

They're doing it ironically.

[candycorn]

The only thing I never got about hipster jokes was why they use Apple products and go to Starbucks. That's way too mainstream.

It's part of the founding ethos. Hipsters hung out in coffee shops and used Macs before either was really big.

Go back 15 years, and you won't see a coffee bar on every street corner. Back then, apple was used by people who scoffed at those IBM-compatible fools with their viruses and their plethora of different programs and games.

[Eldan]

Don't they use Linux now? I mean, they should. Now Linux is the thing with no programs and games on it.

[Tengu_temp]

Don't they use Linux now? I mean, they should. Now Linux is the thing with no programs and games on it.

Only now? :smallamused:

[Eldan]

I mean now that Apple products got a bit better in that regard. :smallwink:

[Cespenar]

In case a few people missed it. (http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/540)

[Yora]

The only thing I never got about hipster jokes was why they use Apple products and go to Starbucks. That's way too mainstream.

Havn't you seen the apple ads? Apple is for individualists who refuse to bow to the monopoly of microsoft. :smallbiggrin:

[Tyndmyr]

Sell out.:smallamused:

Well, I don't like to use the phrase "sell out". I mean, I used it before it was cool, but it's kind of gone public now. It's sold out.

[Eldan]

Hating things for selling out is so early 00s.

[Natael]

Hating things for selling out is so early 00s.

Now I hate bands before they even form, just to be sure.

[Darth Stabber]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTbwCsjN4Ek

Hits most of the tropes.

[Gullintanni]

Havn't you seen the apple ads? Apple is for individualists who refuse to bow to the monopoly of microsoft. :smallbiggrin:

Mainstream lite. For the Hipster with commitment issues.

[Doc Roc]

Sell out.:smallamused:

Mammon is always hip.

[Gametime]

The only thing I never got about hipster jokes was why they use Apple products and go to Starbucks. That's way too mainstream.

Because hipsters are nothing if not hilariously self-unaware.

[stainboy]

If binders are hipsters, warlocks are mall goths. Tell me this outfit (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/dx1027_epicwarlock.jpg) was not purchased at Hot Topic.

Binder: "Yeah, I'm into black magic. Nothing you've heard of though."

Warlock: "Dude, me too! Have you heard of Eldritch Blast???"

[electricbee]

I want to be a hipster bard whose music only has power so long as no one listening has heard it before.

[SPoD]

"Oh, you know. He's not from here, he actually lives out side the multiverse. So, yeah. He doesn't really have worshippers right now, so I let him crash in my soul, but he's totally cool."

See, now this just makes me think that the binder is like the guy in high school who claims he has a totally hot girlfriend who lives in Canada, so no, you don't know her.

[Darth Stabber]

The hornrimmed glasses give a +2 bonus to be seen (or scene as the case may be)

[Gettles]

I want to be a hipster bard whose music only has power so long as no one listening has heard it before.

What, will you refuse to listen to (and thus gain any benefits from) any other bard who doesn't have max ranks in Profession(Waiter)

[Ormur]

I was making hipster jokes before you even knew what a hipster was.

[Eldan]

Hmm. If I ever found a band (unlikely), I'll sell out ironically.

I think I'll also buy a totally sarcastic 27 room villa and an ironic private jet.

[tiercel]

Oh yeah, I used to think about playing a binder, but that was before they got all popular. Now I just play this obscure Truenamer PrC, you've probably never heard of it, I got it at my local gaming store as part of a limited run of Dragon mags that got recalled and then reprinted, but I got one, and, man, it's like even more outside the tier system than Truenamer, and....

[SiuiS]

The only thing I never got about hipster jokes was why they use Apple products and go to Starbucks. That's way too mainstream.
Which is sort of the point. Who has time to self evaluate, when there are people who are making decisions for themselves and are going un-mocked?


Mammon is always hip.
Zing!

[mabriss lethe]

I'm just going to point out that the warlock pic looks more like a member of Judas Priest.

[AslanCross]

Do they also drink Pabst's Azure Cordon potions?

[Knaight]

Cleric: "You siphon power from a water spirit?"

Binder: "I was into tributaries before they were mainstream."

[The-Mage-King]

Knaight, I am going to punch you for that.

Hold still.

[Knaight]

Knaight, I am going to punch you for that.

Hold still.

:smallbiggrin:

[IthroZada]

Cleric: "You siphon power from a water spirit?"

Binder: "I was into tributaries before they were mainstream."

Oh god, win.

[gomipile]

"Oh, you know. He's not from here, he actually lives out side the multiverse. So, yeah. He doesn't really have worshippers right now, so I let him crash in my soul, but he's totally cool."

That would be a bohemian cleric.

[The-Mage-King]

That would be a bohemian cleric.

Is this the real life?

[Eldan]

And what the heck is a Bohemian?

When I was a teenager, i.e, 5 years ago, I'm reasonably sure we were all just "young people".:smalltongue:

[shadow_archmagi]

Oh god, you bound Orthos? Everybody binds orthos, I more into the Indie vestiges.


I prefer Aramis or d'Artagnan personally.

[Greenish]

And what the heck is a Bohemian?Someone who lives in Bohemia (it's in Czech Republic, if my memory serves). Obviously.

[Tvtyrant]

Someone who lives in Bohemia (it's in Czech Republic, if my memory serves). Obviously.

It actually refers in this case to this form (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemianism)of Bohemian, which is a lack of normal social values and a focus on art cliches.

[Darth Stabber]

Someone who lives in Bohemia (it's in Czech Republic, if my memory serves). Obviously.

I thought it was in germany.

[Eldan]

Not anymore.

[Cespenar]

Is this the real life?

Is this just fantasy?

[Cog]

Is this just fantasy?
Took 8d6 in a landslide...

[Terraoblivion]

Bohemia hasn't been part of Germany since the days of the Holy Roman Empire. Like the rest of the Czech Republic it was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire until the Trianon treaty in 1920, which was the part of the Versailles treaty covering the surrender of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Per that treaty the nation of Czechoslovakia was founded and Bohemia came to be part of that, with its largest city and historical, Prague, becoming the national capital. With the division of Czechoslovakia into the Czech Republic and Slovakia in 1991, Bohemia became part of the Czech Republic still keeping Prague as the capital. As a further note, the Czech word for Bohemia is Čechy, which is of course the word that Czech is derived from.

[Morph Bark]

Bohemia hasn't been part of Germany since the days of the Holy Roman Empire. Like the rest of the Czech Republic it was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire until the Trianon treaty in 1920, which was the part of the Versailles treaty covering the surrender of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Per that treaty the nation of Czechoslovakia was founded and Bohemia came to be part of that, with its largest city and historical, Prague, becoming the national capital. With the division of Czechoslovakia into the Czech Republic and Slovakia in 1991, Bohemia became part of the Czech Republic still keeping Prague as the capital. As a further note, the Czech word for Bohemia is Čechy, which is of course the word that Czech is derived from.

tl;dr Bohemia was part of Germany before it got popular.

[The Glyphstone]

Cleric: "You siphon power from a water spirit?"

Binder: "I was into tributaries before they were mainstream."

...
I just got this, after reading the thread twice over.

RAEG.:smallmad:

[Knaight]

...
I just got this, after reading the thread twice over.

RAEG.:smallmad:

That's the second most common response that joke gets. Right after "What's a tributary?"

[gallagher]

My next binder will totally wear hipster glasses and have a single rank in perform: guitar.

no, he will have no ranks in perform:guitar. he will still have the guitar, and play it, but he shouldnt know a bit of how to play it.

also... perform: poetry

[gallagher]

Took 8d6 in a landslide...

no plane shift from reality

[Knaight]

no, he will have no ranks in perform:guitar. he will still have the guitar, and play it, but he shouldnt know a bit of how to play it.

also... perform: poetry

Nah, he should have Perform: Guitar. There need be no Profession: Guitar player. Or perhaps vice versa.

[Darth Stabber]

no plane shift from reality

Open your eyes, look up to the skies and see,
I'm just a VoP monk, I need no sympathy

[grarrrg]

Just popping in to ironically inform you guys that this thread has become mainstream.

[Darth Stabber]

Just popping in to ironically inform you guys that this thread has become mainstream.

I no longer do things ironically, it's too mainstream.

[Draz74]

Open your eyes, look up to the skies and see,
I'm just a VoP monk, I need no sympathy

'Cause I'm easy come, easy go,
Little high, little low,
Any grid direction the Gust of Wind blows doesn't really matter to me

[Cespenar]

I no longer do things ironically, it's too mainstream.

So you return to the mainstream, to avoid the mainstream? Very philosophical of you.

[Allanimal]

'Cause I'm easy come, easy go,
Little high, little low,
Any grid direction the Gust of Wind blows doesn't really matter to me

Mama, just brought a man to less than -10 HP...

[Dragonmuncher]

...as an old f@rt who doesn't much follow trends, is it now official - that as Emos replaced Goths as the butt of jokes, now Hipsters have supplanted Emos?

This, basically. "Hipster" has become the go-to term for when you want to make fun of anything counter-culture.

[Sipex]

Mama, just brought a man to less than -10 HP...

Put a crossbow to his head.
Coup De Grace and now he's dead.

[Shyftir]

Mama, chargen had just begun,
Throw away my sheet at level one.

[Doc Roc]

So you return to the mainstream, to avoid the mainstream? Very philosophical of you.

It's all part of the dialectic, man.

[Gullintanni]

Mama, chargen had just begun,
Throw away my sheet at level one.

Mama, oooh, Didn't mean to cast that die...
Natural 1, I won't be adventurin' tomorrow!
Carry on! Carry on...cause this PC didn't matter.

[Warlawk]

That's the second most common response that joke gets. Right after "What's a tributary?"

I thought it was clever, good wordplay, the joke really flows.


I prefer Aramis or d'Artagnan personally.

You're thinking of Porthos and he's totally mainstream (totally awesome to boot...)

I was thinking about posting part of that song all D&D'd up when I saw the first one... but man, now we've got all these posers in here bringin the place down with their gamer lyrics.

[faceroll]

"No, see, Orcus is totally lame. I'm binding Tenebrous, who split off before Orcus sold out, after that catastrophe with The Last Word."

"I liked Orcus better, before Tenebrous left to work on his side project."

[Eldan]

Bah. What did he do back then? Rod of Seven Parts? Pleeease.

[Darth Stabber]

Mama, oooh, Didn't mean to cast that die...
Natural 1, I won't be adventurin' tomorrow!
Carry on! Carry on...cause this PC didn't matter.

Too late, my initiative has come.
Shiviring touch rolls down my spine, dex damage aching all the time.

[The Cat Goddess]

Too late, my initiative has come.
Shiviring touch rolls down my spine, dex damage aching all the time.

Mama! OooOoo... The game had just begun!
And now I've gone and thrown my books away...

[Gametime]

This, basically. "Hipster" has become the go-to term for when you want to make fun of anything counter-culture.

If that's the case, the term is being misused. Hipsterism hasn't been counter-culture for decades.

[faceroll]

If that's the case, the term is being misused. Hipsterism hasn't been counter-culture for decades.

A no true scotsmen argument. Hipsters are decidedly counter-culture. If they had a manifesto, "hate everything" would be like commandment 2.

[Knaight]

I thought it was clever, good wordplay, the joke really flows.

What are you basin that on?
Yeah, I think we're done here.

[gallagher]

Mama! OooOoo... The game had just begun!
And now I've gone and thrown my books away...
i dont wanna die
sometimes wish i'd never rolled my stats at all

[Darth Stabber]

i dont wanna die
sometimes wish i'd never rolled my stats at all

I see a little silhouetto of a mage.
Saving throw, saving throw, what is your fortitude

[gallagher]

I see a little silhouetto of a mage.
Saving throw, saving throw, what is your fortitude

Fireballs and lightning, Hope you have evasion and high dexterity!

[grarrrg]

Fireballs and lightning, Hope you have evasion and high dexterity!

Gary Gygax, Gary Gygax , Gary Gygax, Gary Gygax , Gary Gygax wrote em all.

[Doc Roc]

We're not too hip to sit down and actually compile this, are we?

[Darth Stabber]

Gary Gygax, Gary Gygax , Gary Gygax, Gary Gygax , Gary Gygax wrote em all.

I'm just a VoP monk, nobody loves me

[gallagher]

I'm just a VoP monk, nobody loves me
He's just a VoP monk from a lawful family

[grarrrg]

He's just a VoP monk from a lawful family

Spare him his HP from those with Monstrous HD

[The Cat Goddess]

Spare him his HP from those with Monstrous HD

Easy save, easy hit, will you let me roll?

[gallagher]

Easy save, easy hit, will you let me roll?

Saving Throw: None! we will not let you roll

[Cespenar]

Talk about branching off from the mainstream.

Also, combo breaker.

[The Cat Goddess]

Saving Throw: None! we will not let you roll

Spell Resistance!

[Darth Stabber]

Saving Throw: None! we will not let you roll

Spell Resistance!

Saving Throw: None! we will not let you roll

Spell Resistance!

will not let you roll

Spell Resistance!

will not let you roll

Spell Resistance!
Penetration, roll roll roll roll roll roll roll

[Stormageddon]

This Queen parody has just sold out!

[dextercorvia]

I was lurking in this thread before it was cool. Now, I just don't know...

[The-Mage-King]

My GOD! What have I do-


Asmodeus has a Pit Fiend set aside for me!

[gallagher]

for me!

FOR MEEEEEEEEEEEE!

quick! who has the highesst perform (guitar) check?

[Pentachoron]

I'm just going to point out that the warlock pic looks more like a member of Judas Priest.

Yeah, but metalheads are just hipsters that like palm muting.

[grarrrg]

quick! who has the highesst perform (guitar) check?

[insert awesome guitar solo here]

[Gullintanni]

So you think you can stop me with that No-Save-Just-Die!?
So you beat my resistance by rolling real high!?
Oh baby, party got me res'd baby!
Just need more XP, gonna blow your HD outta here!

[gallagher]

So you think you can stop me with that No-Save-Just-Die!?
So you beat my resistance by rolling real high!?
Oh baby, party got me res'd baby!
Just need more XP, gonna blow your HD outta here!
http://www.gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=55558&t=o (http://www.gifsoup.com/view/55558/waynes-world.html)

[Axolotl]

They're kind of like beatniks that sit around in starbucks and use apple products.Interestingly enough the "Beat Generation" were actually refered to as hipsters back in the 60's/70s. It's funny how the word has come back to refer to largely the same sort of people.

[Veyr]

I'd be surprised if that were coincidence.

I think an important part of "hipster" is the idea that they, unlike the goths or emos or whatever, wouldn't avoid mainstream social circles — they would just be standing their all ironically, making fun of it. Or something like that.

[Gullintanni]

This campaign's really ending, Tier 1's ruining my day...
This campaign's really ending,
This campaign really ends in...TPK

Cause that's the way the dice roll...

Edit: Also...best thread de-rail ever.

[boj0]

Screencapped - all pages

[Gullintanni]

Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Took 8d6 in a landslide...
No Plane Shift from reality...

Open your eyes, look up to the skies and see!
I'm just a VoP Monk, I need no sympathy...
'Cause I'm easy come, easy go.
Little high, little low,
Any grid direction the Gust of Wind blows,
Doesn't really matter to me. To me...

Mama, just brought a man to less than -10 HP,
Put a crossbow to his head,
Coupe-de-grace and now he's dead.
Mama, CharGen had just begun...
Throw away my sheet at level 1!
Mama oOoh, Didn't mean to cast that die,
Natural 1, I won't be adventurin' tomorrow!
Carry on! Carry on, cause this PC didn't matter.

Too late, my initiative has come...
Shivering Touch rolls down my spine,
Dex damage aching all the time.
Mama, the game had just begun.
Now I've gone and thrown my books away.
I don't wanna die, I sometimes wish I'd never rolled stats at all!

I see a little silhouetto of a mage!
Saving throw! Saving throw! What is your fortitude save!?
Fireballs and lightning! Hope you've got evasion and high dexterity!
Gary Gygax (Gary Gygax) Gary Gygax (Gary Gygax) Gary Gygax wrote em all! He wrote them aah-ah-ah-all.
I'm just a VoP Monk, nobody loves me.
He's just a VoP Monk, from a lawful family!
Spare his HP from those with monstrous HD!
Easy save, easy hit, will you let me roll?
Saving throw: NONE! We will not let you roll.
(Spell Resistance)
Saving throw: NONE! We will not let you roll.
(Spell Resistance)
Will not let you roll!
(Spell Resist)
Will not let you roll!
(Penetration)
Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll!
Oh deity! Oh deity! Let me roll!
Asmodeus has a Pit Fiend set aside for me!
For me! For ME!

[Guitar Solo]
So you think you can stop me with that No-Save-Just-Die!?
So you beat my resistance by rolling real high!?
Oh baby, party got me res'd baby!
Just need more XP, gonna blow your HD outta here!

This campaign's really ending, Tier 1's ruining my day...
This campaign's really ending,
This campaign really ends in...TPK

Cause that's the way the dice roll...

[Quietus]

So, do we have anyone skilled enough to make this actually happen? I see a couple issues where the cadence might get a little mixed up, but overall, this is awesome XD

[Gullintanni]

Yeah with some very minor tweaking, this could easily be made viable.

[Morph Bark]

The only problem I see in there is "any grid direction the Gust of Wind blows" being too long.

"Any grid square Gusts of Wind blow" would befit better in terms of amount of syllables, but doesn't sound as right.

[Gullintanni]

Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Took 8d6 in a landslide...
No Plane Shift from reality...

Open your eyes, look up to the skies and see!
I'm just a VoP Monk, I need no sympathy...
'Cause I'm easy come, easy go.
Little high, little low,
Any grid direction way the Gust of Wind blows,
Doesn't really matter to me. To me...

Mama, just killed a man. less than -10 HP (too many syllables here no matter what I do. Suggestions?) ,
Put a crossbow to his head,
Coupe-de-grace and now he's dead.
Mama, CharGen had just begun...
Throw away my sheet at level 1!
Mama oOoh, Didn't mean to cast that die,
Natural 1, I won't be adventurin' tomorrow!
Carry on! Carry on, cause this PC didn't matter.

Too late, my initiative has come...
Shivering Touch rolls down my spine,
Dex damage aching all the time.
Mama - oOoh, (the game had just begun.)
Now I've gone and thrown my books away.
I don't wanna die, I sometimes wish I'd never rolled stats at all!

I see a little silhouetto of a mage!
Saving throw! Saving throw! What is your fortitude save!?
Fireballs and lightning! Hope you've got evasion and high dexterity good reflex saves!
Gary Gygax (Gary Gygax) Gary Gygax (Gary Gygax) Gary Gygax wrote em all! He wrote them aah-ah-ah-all.
I'm just a VoP Monk, nobody loves me.
He's just a VoP Monk, from a lawful family!
Spare his HP from those with monstrous HD!
Easy save, easy hit, will you let me roll?
Saving throw: NONE! We will not let you roll.
(Spell Resistance)
Saving throw: NONE! We will not let you roll.
(Spell Resistance)
Will not let you roll!
(Spell Resist)
Will not let you roll!
(Penetration)
Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll!
Oh deity! Oh deity! Let me roll!
Asmodeus has a Pit Fiend set aside for me!
For me! For ME!

[Guitar Solo]
So you think you can stop me with that No-Save-Just-Die!?
So you beat my resistance by rolling real high!?
Oh baby, party got me res'd baby!
Just need more XP, gonna blow your HD outta here!

This campaign's really ending, Tier 1's ruining my day...
This campaign's really ending,
This campaign really ends in...TPK

Cause that's the way the dice roll...

I think these are all the places where the cadence gets messy. Bolded parts are my changes...I think that song is viable.

[Morph Bark]

Going over the original Queen song, I think this would flow best, some cutting of words or replacing, but only minor. Most people stuck quite well to Bohemian!


Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Took 8d6 in a landslide...
No Plane Shift from reality...

Open your eyes, look up to the skies and see!
I'm just a VoP Monk, I need no sympathy...
'Cause I'm easy come, easy go.
Little high, little low,
Any way the Gust of Wind blows,
Doesn't really matter to me. To me...

Mama, just brought a man to -10,
Put a crossbow to his head,
Coup-de-grace and now he's dead.
Mama, CharGen had just begun...
Throw away my sheet at level 1!
Mama oOoh, Didn't mean to cast that die,
Natural 1, I won't be adventurin' tomorrow!
Carry on! Carry on, cause this PC didn't matter.

Too late, my initiative has come...
Shivering Touch rolls down my spine,
Dex damage aching all the time.
Mama, the game had just begun.
But now I've gone and thrown my books away.
I don't wanna die, I sometimes wish I'd never rolled stats at all!

I see a little silhouetto of a mage!
Saving throw! Saving throw! What is your Fortitude!?
Fireballs and lightning! Hope you've got good Reflex saves!
Gary Gygax (Gary Gygax) Gary Gygax (Gary Gygax) Gary Gygax wrote em all! He wrote them aah-ah-ah-all.
I'm just a VoP Monk, nobody loves me.
He's just a VoP Monk, from a lawful family!
Spare his HP from those with monstrous HD!
Easy save, easy hit, will you let me roll?
Saving throw: NONE! We will not let you roll.
(Spell Resistance)
Saving throw: NONE! We will not let you roll.
(Spell Resistance)
Will not let you roll!
(Spell Resist)
Will not let you roll!
(Penetratio-o-o-on!)
Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll!
Oh Bahamut! Oh Bahamut! Oh Bahamnut, let me roll!
Asmodeus has a Pit Fiend set aside for me!
For me! For ME!

[Guitar Solo]
So you think you can stop me with that No-Save-Just-Die!?
So you beat my resistance by rolling real high!?
Oh baby, party got me res'd baby!
Just need more XP, gonna blow your HD outta here!

This campaign's really ending, Tier 1's ruining my day...
This campaign's really ending,
This campaign really ends in...TPK

Cause that's the way the dice roll...

[Gullintanni]

Going over the original Queen song, I think this would flow best, some cutting of words or replacing, but only minor. Most people stuck quite well to Bohemian!



Mama, just brought a man to -10,
Put a crossbow to his head,
Coup-de-grace and now he's dead.

Oh Bahamut! Oh Bahamut! Oh Bahamut, let me roll!
Asmodeus has a Pit Fiend set aside for me!
For me! For ME!


These are the only places I have trouble...-10 is pronounced Negative Ten...and that adds 4 syllables to a line that is otherwise very short. The only way I could see it being done is to have another singer come in at the end and add it as an after thought.

Mama, just brought a man (to minus ten)

I'm really not sure how to preserve that line without making it way too long.

And Bahamut...is it a long U sound? Or is it a short U sound we'd use? Bahamut(e) or Bahamut(t) because I think the short U sound is the correct one...though that wouldn't flow nicely. Ehlonna would work here though very nicely. And given that we're discussing an Ascetic Monk with VoP...a forest god fits the fluff pretty nicely.

[Morph Bark]

These are the only places I have trouble...-10 is pronounced Negative Ten...and that adds 4 syllables to a line that is otherwise very short. The only way I could see it being done is to have another singer come in at the end and add it as an after thought.

Mama, just brought a man (to minus ten)

I'm really not sure how to preserve that line without making it way too long.

And Bahamut...is it a long U sound? Or is it a short U sound we'd use? Bahamut(e) or Bahamut(t) because I think the short U sound is the correct one...though that wouldn't flow nicely. Ehlonna would work here though very nicely. And given that we're discussing an Ascetic Monk with VoP...a forest god fits the fluff pretty nicely.

I use the short u for Bahamut and meant -10 to be pronounced "minus ten".

Ehlonna isn't as "known"/popular as Bahamut is though, plus considering we're talking Asmodeus, the big ol' dragon fits perfectly. :smallsmile:


(Now I am totally imagining VoP dragons though.)

[The Glyphstone]

howbout this



Mama, just Coup-de-Grace'd a man
Put a crossbow to his head,
he failed his Fort save, now he's dead.

[Gullintanni]

I use the short u for Bahamut and meant -10 to be pronounced "minus ten".

Ehlonna isn't as "known"/popular as Bahamut is though, plus considering we're talking Asmodeus, the big ol' dragon fits perfectly. :smallsmile:


(Now I am totally imagining VoP dragons though.)

Pffft...you worship Bahamut? That guy is way mainstream. What does he do for the people man!? Nothing! He's all about magic items, and he's made of freakin' platinum dude! He's so corporate! My god? She supports my way of life. My power is organic! It comes from the earth man...she loves the forest and trees, and my VoP. She's the perfect fit for this awesome song. Au natural man.

EDIT: Glyph, looks pretty solid IMO. I'll second the motion.

[Morph Bark]

In that case, Saint Cuthbert is even better. :smallwink: (Ehlonna is hippie, not hipster. Hippies are too mainstream! Also Ehlonna isn't Lawful, like Monks. :smalltongue:)

Besides, I worship Chronepsis. :smalltongue: (Falazure would fit too, considering he's the dragon god of death and you don't want to be taken by him do you?!)

[Allanimal]

howbout this

Mama, just Coup-de-Grace'd a man
Put a crossbow to his head,
he failed his Fort save, now he's dead.

As the original contributor of the cumbersome -10 HP line, I must say this is much, much better.

[Gullintanni]

In that case, Saint Cuthbert is even better. :smallwink: (Ehlonna is hippie, not hipster. Hippies are too mainstream! Also Ehlonna isn't Lawful, like Monks. :smalltongue:)

Besides, I worship Chronepsis. :smalltongue: (Falazure would fit too, considering he's the dragon god of death and you don't want to be taken by him do you?!)

Ehlonna fits the cadence of the song better. She also fits the VoP concept for our monk friend better. As she is NG, our Lawful-good monk character is but a single step away on the alignment ladder. :smalltongue:

Besides, hippies are only mainstream in the modern world. In setting, everyone uses magic swords...and sleeps in their cloaks :smallsmile:

[Marillion]

I say you replace [guitar solo] with [Perform: Guitar check]

Also, I will second Gullintanni. Best thread derail EVER.

[Gullintanni]

In it's current incarnation.


Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Took 8d6 in a landslide...
No Plane Shift from reality...

Open your eyes, look up to the skies and see!
I'm just a VoP Monk, I need no sympathy...
'Cause I'm easy come, easy go.
Little high, little low,
Any way the Gust of Wind blows,
Doesn't really matter to me. To me...

Mama, just Coup-de-Grace'd a man
Put a crossbow to his head,
He failed his Fort save, now he's dead.
Mama, CharGen had just begun...
Throw away my sheet at level 1!
Mama oOoh, Didn't mean to cast that die,
Natural 1, I won't be adventurin' tomorrow!
Carry on! Carry on, cause this PC didn't matter.

Too late, my initiative has come...
Shivering Touch rolls down my spine,
Dex damage aching all the time.
Mama, the game had just begun.
But now I've gone and thrown my books away.
I don't wanna die, I sometimes wish I'd never rolled stats at all!

I see a little silhouetto of a mage!
Saving throw! Saving throw! What is your Fortitude!?
Fireballs and lightning! Hope you've got good Reflex saves!
Gary Gygax (Gary Gygax) Gary Gygax (Gary Gygax) Gary Gygax wrote em all! He wrote them aah-ah-ah-all.
I'm just a VoP Monk, nobody loves me.
He's just a VoP Monk, from a lawful family!
Spare his HP from those with monstrous HD!
Easy save, easy hit, will you let me roll?
Saving throw: NONE! We will not let you roll.
(Spell Resistance)
Saving throw: NONE! We will not let you roll.
(Spell Resistance)
Will not let you roll!
(Spell Resist)
Will not let you roll!
(Penetratio-o-o-on!)
Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll!
Oh Bahamut! Oh Bahamut! Oh Bahamut, let me roll!
Asmodeus has a Pit Fiend set aside for me!
For me! For ME!

[Perform: Guitar, Solo DC: 24]

So you think you can stop me with that No-Save-Just-Die!?
So you beat my resistance by rolling real high!?
Oh baby, party got me res'd baby!
Just need more XP, gonna blow your HD outta here!

This campaign's really ending, Tier 1's ruining my day...
This campaign's really ending,
This campaign really ends in...TPK

Cause that's the way the dice roll...

[The Cat Goddess]

I think it should be "Coup-de-Grace'd an Orc", not man. :smallbiggrin:

[Darth Stabber]

going over cadence, I think "throw away my sheet at level 1" could be changed to "throw my sheet away at level 1" for a slightly better flow. I realize that the words are the same, but it comes off the tongue easier the second way.

[Darth Stabber]

Also, i am really impressed that we got the whole song converted.

[Cespenar]

I'm more impressed that the thread didn't get a warning. Probably the mods thought it was too cool of a derail as well. :smalltongue:

[Tvtyrant]

I'm more impressed that the thread didn't get a warning. Probably the mods thought it was too cool of a derail as well. :smalltongue:

It is because they did the whole thing sarcastically :smallcool:

[The-Mage-King]

Bookmarked and saved. My GREAT EVIL is complete for this week.

[Telonius]

Pssht. I made up one of those before (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9448127&postcount=68)it was all cool.

:smallcool:

[Morph Bark]

Pssht. I made up one of those before (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9448127&postcount=68)it was all cool.

:smallcool:

Before? You must not be going on YouTube much then. :smallamused:

[Darth Stabber]

I was doing stuff before it was cool before it was cool.

[gallagher]

so now we need to somehow make a band...

[Doc Roc]

In that case, Saint Cuthbert is even better. :smallwink: (Ehlonna is hippie, not hipster. Hippies are too mainstream! Also Ehlonna isn't Lawful, like Monks. :smalltongue:)

Besides, I worship Chronepsis. :smalltongue: (Falazure would fit too, considering he's the dragon god of death and you don't want to be taken by him do you?!)

Red Knight, patron of optimization! Doesn't fit here, but...

[Shyftir]

Fireballs and lightning! Hope you've got good Reflex saves!

This line doesn't work. It needs to rhyme with itself or you lose an important part of the way it's supposed to sound.

[Eldan]

Fireballs and Lightning, Fear spells are Frightening?

[The Glyphstone]

I'm more impressed that the thread didn't get a warning. Probably the mods thought it was too cool of a derail as well. :smalltongue:

Splashing red text on threads has become too mainstream.

[Admiral Squish]

Best. Thread. Ever.

[Greenish]

Best. Thread. Ever.Eh, I liked it before it became mainstream.

[Gorgondantess]

Eh, I liked it before it became mainstream.

Ugh. Making comments about liking the thread before it became mainstream has become so mainstream.
Metahumor is just... too mainstream.

[Lemonus]

Just found and read this thread. And it is awesome. Particularly the Qeen Parody.


Fireballs and Lightning, Fear spells are Frightening?

I agree that the line should be changed to this. (Minus the question mark)

[grarrrg]

I say you replace [guitar solo] with [Perform: Guitar check]

Also, I will second Gullintanni. Best thread derail EVER.

Guitars are too mainstream. It should be replaced with [Perform: Lute, Mandolin, Sitar, Oud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oud) Check]

[dextercorvia]

I liked this thread when it was a spontaneous bohemian outpouring. Now that you are trying to make the song work, it's like you sold out, and went all mainstream.

[Morph Bark]

I liked this thread when it was a spontaneous bohemian outpouring. Now that you are trying to make the song work, it's like you sold out, and went all mainstream.

If we sold out, where is our money? :smalltongue:

[dextercorvia]

If we sold out, where is our money? :smalltongue:

I'm just going to hold on to it, ironically, until you finish the song.:smallcool:

[nedz]

Awesome thread :smallcool:

Why
Little high, little low,
Surely
Rollin' high, rollin' low,

[nedz]

And what the heck is a Bohemian?

I thought it was in germany.

Not anymore.
Bohemian//Hipster:
I was into Germany, like, before it was Germany. But Germany, like, Germany became a regular mainstream kind of country. I'm not into Germany any more. I'm into another state, naah, its not one you would have heard of.

[Tyndmyr]

Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Took 8d6 in a landslide...
No Plane Shift from reality...

Open your eyes, look up to the skies and see!
I'm just a VoP Monk, I need no sympathy...
'Cause I'm easy come, easy go.
rollin' high, rollin' low,
Any way the Gust of Wind blows, <- Still seems too long. Im considering a control weather or other reference to shorten it up some.
Doesn't really matter to me. To me...

Mama, just Coup-de-Grace'd a man
Put a crossbow to his head,
Failed his Fort save, now he's dead.
Mama, CharGen had just begun...
Throw away my sheet at level 1! <---Doesn't entirely flow instead of "now I've gone and thrown it all away". It's a decent alternate flow, but I'd prefer to keep the original flow of the song.
Mama oOoh, Didn't mean to cast that die,
Natural 1, I won't be adventurin' tomorrow!
Carry on! Carry on, cause this PC didn't matter.

Too late, my init has come...
Shivering Touch rolls down my spine,
Dex damage aching all the time.
Mama, the game had just begun. <- I feel like this matches the tempo of the previous verse. Doesn't really fit here. The original line is "Goodbye everybody, I've got to go". I think we need an additional line or something.
But now I've gone and thrown my books away.
I don't wanna die, I sometimes wish I'd never rolled stats at all!

I see a little silhouetto of a mage!
Saving throw! Saving throw! What is your Fortitude!?
Fireballs and lightning! Fear is very fright'ning to me!
Gary Gygax (Gary Gygax) Gary Gygax (Gary Gygax) Gary Gygax wrote em all! He wrote them aah-ah-ah-all.
I'm just a VoP Monk, nobody loves me.
He's just a VoP Monk, from a lawful family!
Spare his HP from this monstrosity!
Easy save, easy hit, will you let me roll?
Saving throw: NONE! We will not let you roll.
(Spell Resistance)
Saving throw: NONE! We will not let you roll.
(Spell Resistance)
Will not let you roll!
(Spell Resist)
Will not let you roll!
(Penetratio-o-o-on!)
Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll! Roll!
Oh Bahamut! Oh Bahamut! Oh Bahamut, let me roll!
Asmodeus has a Pit Fiend set aside for me!
For me! For ME!

[Perform: Guitar, Solo DC: 24]

So you think you can stop me with that No-Save-Just-Die!?
So you beat my resistance by rolling real high!?
Oh baby, party got me res'd baby!
Just gotta port out, gonna teleport outta here!

This campaign's really ending, Tier 1's ruining my day...
This campaign's really ending,
This campaign really ends in...TPK

Cause that's the way the dice roll...



Aright, few minor changes to incorporate other suggestions and attempt to keep it close to the original music without getting wordy. Got a coupla points I'd like suggestions on, though.

[CaptainPlatypus]

I was making noncontributing comments about how awesome threads are before that got all popular.

[Eldan]

And if a gust of Wind blows,
Doesn't really matter to me, to me.

[Geigan]

Anyway the die rolls
Doesn't really matter to me, to me

I don't like sticking to the first suggested line. It's too mainstream.

[Morph Bark]

And if a gust of Wind blows,
Doesn't really matter to me, to me.

Sounds good to me.

Also, "Goodbye everybody, I've got to go" could be substituted with "goodbye my party, I've got to fly".

[Knaight]

Bohemian//Hipster:
I was into Germany, like, before it was Germany. But Germany, like, Germany became a regular mainstream kind of country. I'm not into Germany any more. I'm into another state, naah, its not one you would have heard of.

Needs moar Prussia.

[Morph Bark]

Needs moar Prussia.

Suddenly...

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/KawaiiXCookiesXinc/hetalia-prussia-hetalia-10366066-1024-724.jpg

...and now for something completely different!

[Veyr]

Anyway the die rolls
Doesn't really matter to me, to me
Personally, I like this version best.

[The Cat Goddess]

And if a gust of Wind blows,
Doesn't really matter to me, to me.

"When the Gust of Wind blows" fits the tempo of the song better.

For the opening line...

"Is this the game night?
do you play D and D?"

[The Rabbler]

Throw away my sheet at level 1!
how about "but now I've gone and thrown my sheet away"?



"Is this the game night?
do you play D and D?"

EDIT: also, this.

[Draz74]

For the opening line...

"Is this the game night?
do you play D and D?"

I dunno, I kind of liked the existentialism of the in-game fantasy character asking questions that were leading to the conclusion that his life was, in fact, fantasy.

[The Cat Goddess]

I dunno, I kind of liked the existentialism of the in-game fantasy character asking questions that were leading to the conclusion that his life was, in fact, fantasy.

Existentialism is so 9 minutes ago...

[The Rabbler]

I dunno, I kind of liked the existentialism of the in-game fantasy character asking questions that were leading to the conclusion that his life was, in fact, fantasy.

I assumed we were talking from the player's perspective. I'm not sure our characters know that we leave their fate up to a die roll.

[nedz]

Needs moar Prussia.

Prussia, why thats such a gone country mann.

[Draconi Redfir]

How do you even worship a dead god? isn’t that the same as worshiping a god that doesn’t exist?

[IthroZada]

How do you even worship a dead god? isn’t that the same as worshiping a god that doesn’t exist?

How does that even strike you as odd? Ancestor worship is, or was, a pretty common thing to do. Worshiping the dead has plenty of real world examples.

[nedz]

Now a gust of wind blows
scans like the original

[Draconi Redfir]

How does that even strike you as odd? Ancestor worship is, or was, a pretty common thing to do. Worshiping the dead has plenty of real world examples.

I mean in a D&Dverse. Goids grant clerics their powers right? How can a worshiper of a dead got have any powers whatsoever if the god in question is too dead to grant them?

[Greenish]

How can a worshiper of a dead got have any powers whatsoever if the god in question is too dead to grant them?The same way you break other rules trying to limit caster's power: with a FR feat. :smallwink:

[RaginChangeling]

I mean in a D&Dverse. Goids grant clerics their powers right? How can a worshiper of a dead got have any powers whatsoever if the god in question is too dead to grant them?

Not quite, Clerics can also worship ideas or ideals and it gives them power as well. So worshipping a dead god is really no different than worshipping a live one with the notable exception of not having them talk back when you get a high enough level.

[grarrrg]

I mean in a D&Dverse. Goids grant clerics their powers right? How can a worshiper of a dead got have any powers whatsoever if the god in question is too dead to grant them?

A wizard did it.
Or he would have, but that's SOOO mainstream.

[Wings of Peace]

"What god do you worship?"
"You've probably never heard of him, instead of a written name he has a symbol."

[Veyr]

I mean in a D&Dverse. Goids grant clerics their powers right? How can a worshiper of a dead got have any powers whatsoever if the god in question is too dead to grant them?
Two classes do this mechanically:
Ur-Priest: The Ur-Priest is about stealing gods' divine power. Normally, this is associated with some great evil heresy, but there's a bit in the Adaptation section for a Cleric of a dead god using Ur-Priest's techniques to continue using Divine spells while he searches for a way to resurrect the dead god. He's not using his god's granted abilities, but stealing spells from other gods.
Binder: If the god became a vestige upon death (as with Amon, arguably with Eurynome, sort of with Geryon, maybe with Savnok, definitely with Shax, and most famously with Tenebrous), a Binder can gain powers by entering into a pact with these vestiges. Binders don't necessarily worship the vestiges, but some do, and there's a prestige class, Tenebrous Apostate, that's all about worshipping Tenebrous and scheming to bring the Shadow that Was back.

[Heliomance]

We don't need to change every line. Personally, I like

Mama, just killed a man!
Put a crossbow to his head
Coup-de-grace and now he's dead.

I think it flows better.

[PairO'Dice Lost]

On the topic of D&D songs and being ironic and liking things that aren't mainstream...my gaming group and I came up with this little tune a year or so ago when reminiscing about the 2e/3e transition and all the edition wars that it brought about. When I saw this thread I knew I had to transcribe it from my old notes. Hope you like it.

It's Still D&D To Me
With apologies to Billy Joel


What's the matter with the cloak I'm wearing,
Can't you tell it's Cha +5?
Wishin' I could buy more magic items....
Welcome back to the Sigil Hive.
What's the dark on where you've been lately, cutter?
You can't buy magic, are you some kinda nutter?
Everybody's talkin' 'bout the new game,
Funny, but it's still D&D to me.


What's the matter with the mount I'm riding?
That you pulled it from an Upper Plane.
Should I get a set of +1 flaming horseshoes?
Oh, sure, why not add demon bane?
In the old days, it was more than just a pony;
Now that it's a summon, it's just plain phony!
2nd edition, 3rd edition, either way it's my edition,
Still D&D to me.

Oh, it doesn't matter what they say in Dragon,
'Cause it's always been the same old scene:
There's a new game in town
But you can't get a run-down from reviews in a magazine
Aimed at your average teen!


How about a charge-spec Paladin 5
With some dips for a feat or three?
You might really like a plain 10 Fighter...
...well, it always worked fine for me....
We didn't need feats from a half-dozen splatbooks,
Our Fighting-Men thrived on a good set of plot hooks!
THAC0, Base Attack, the difference don't mean jack—
It's still D&D to me.


What's the matter with the spell I'm casting?
Don't you know it has a range of touch!?
With the new rules I can cast in melee
And not worry about miscasts too much.
Don't you know new casters have it easy?
The thought of any damage used to make them queasy!
Armored mages, spellbook pages, even with all these changes
It's still D&D to me.

Everybody's talkin' 'bout the new game
Funny, but it's still D&D to me.

[Draz74]

Three years ago on these forums:


Robes of archmagi and petrified kittens
Cloaks of resistance and spell-storing mittens
Bags of devouring tied up with string
These are a few of my favorite things

Rings of evasion and iron bands of binding
Ioun stones and fire staves and potions of finding
A deck of illusions that's missing the king
These are a few of my favorite things

Bracers of armor and rings of protection
Shields enchanted with arrow deflection
Those funny horseshoes that can give your horse wings
These are a few of my favorite things

When the hellhound bites
When the wyvern stings
When my health looks bad,
I add in the bonus from my favorite things
And then I don't feel... sooo bad!

[Gullintanni]

We're just under halfway to a writing an album.

[kestrel404]

We're just under halfway to a writing an album.

"Critical Hits volume I" by They Might Be in the Playground

[Geigan]

"Critical Hits volume I" by They Might Be in the Playground

Should we make another tread around this? This is sounding pretty cool and I wouldn't want an awesome indie album to be diluted by a mainstream thread like this.:smallcool:

[The_Snark]

Three years ago on these forums:

Haha, I'm flattered someone remembers that. I wrote something to the tune of If I Were a Rich Man from Fiddler on the Roof too, I'll have to see if I can find it.

Edit- If I Were a Mind Flayer:
(spoken)
"DM, I've made many, many human characters.
I realize, of course, that there's nothing wrong with being human.
But it's not that interesting either!
So would it be so terrible if I had just a +7 LA?"


If I were a mind flayer,
Ya ha deedle deedle, bubba bubba deedle deedle dum.
All day long I'd biddy biddy brains,
If I were an il-li-thid!
Wouldn't have to learn things,
Ya ha deedle deedle, bubba bubba deedle deedle dum.
If I were a biddy biddy squid,
Yidle-diddle-didle-illi-thid.

I'd build a great stone statue with thralls by the dozen,
Right in the middle of the town.
A twenty-foot monument with blasphemous runes below.
There would be one rune that's a four-sided pentagon,
And one sphere with 350º,
And a triangle with two right angles, just for show!

I'd eat my fill of wizards and leaders and rich men,
Just to absorb their juicy brains.
And each great sec-ret and PIN number and artwork,
Would further my long and glorious reign.
They would say "There goes an illithid."

If I were a mind flayer,
Ya ha deedle deedle, bubba bubba deedle deedle dum.
All day long I'd biddy biddy brains,
If I were an il-li-thid!
Wouldn't have to learn things,
Ya ha deedle deedle, bubba bubba deedle deedle dum.
If I were a biddy biddy squid,
Yidle-diddle-didle-illi-thid.

I'd see my party, those morons, suitably enthralled
With eyes fogged, blankly white and glazed.
Obeying my whims to my heart's delight.
I see them giving their lives many times to protect me.
Oh, maybe I'll even have them raised!
Scrambling to my bidding, day and night.

The most important people in the world would have to fawn on me!
They would need me to advise them,
Because I didn't leave them free will.
"If you please, Lord Illithid..."
"Pardon me, Lord Illithid..."
Giving me power that would give a devil chills!
And it won't make one bit of difference if I answer right or wrong;
When you're a mind flayer, you don't have to care!

If I ate brains, I'd have the knowledge that I lack
To cast spells and sneak and Know: Nature.
And listen to the gods gossip in their halls.
And I could suck secrets right out of anybody,
As an at-will ability.
That would be the coolest thing of all.

If I were a mind flayer,
Ya ha deedle deedle, bubba bubba deedle deedle dum.
All day long I'd biddy biddy brains,
If I were an il-li-thid!
Wouldn't have to learn things,
Ya ha deedle deedle, bubba bubba deedle deedle dum.
If I were a biddy biddy squid,
Yidle-diddle-didle-illi-thid.

DM who governs the options of the players!
You decree when we go and where!
Would it spoil some vast detailed lair?
If... I were a mind flaaayeeer?!"

[Draz74]

by They Might Be in the Playground

*groan*

Awesome. :smallbiggrin:

[Master_Rahl22]

"Critical Hits volume I" by They Might Be in the Playground

Someone make this thread, immediately!

[PairO'Dice Lost]

Someone make this thread, immediately!

Ta-da. I put it in Friendly Banter, I figured it would fit better there.

[Morph Bark]

Three years ago on these forums:

What song is that one based on?

[Geigan]

What song is that one based on?

"My Favorite Things" from The Sound of Music.

[nedz]

Picture yourself in a boat on the Styxx

[shadow_archmagi]

You're thinking of Porthos and he's totally mainstream (totally awesome to boot...)


(That's the joke. I wanted to be part of the punmaking crowd. )

[JKTrickster]

Oh what have you done Natael...

[grarrrg]

I'm posting on-topic in an ironic way:

Link to webcomic (http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/540)

[Cespenar]

I'm posting on-topic in an ironic way:

Link to webcomic (http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/540)

Pfeh, I've linked it, like, back when this still was a cool thread:
In case a few people missed it. (http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/540)

[Morph Bark]

Pfeh, I've linked it, like, back when this still was a cool thread:

Should have done it before it was a cool thread. :smalltongue:

[grarrrg]

I'm posting on-topic in an ironic way:

Link to webcomic (http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/540)
Pfeh, I've linked it, like, back when this still was a cool thread:
In case a few people missed it. (http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/540)


Exactly.
Posting original links is SOOOO mainstream.
Didn't realize you linked it earlier, I was in a different thread, and a different guy posted a link to a different strip of that comic.

[Cespenar]

Should have done it before it was a cool thread. :smalltongue:

Then I would be like all those guys doing things before they were cool. You know.

[Gaelbert]

I'd apologise for taking this thread off-topic, but I don't even know what the topic ever was in the first place. Anyways, here we go:
I don't get the rampant hatred of hipsters. As mentioned earlier, hipsters have replaced emos as the butt of stereotypes and jokes (and don't get me started with "emos." Whomever decided to take a social group based on exclusion, emotional sensitivity, and depression, and focus the hatred of a generation on them was pretty messed up.). Not all of this is directed at this thread, but it seems like the underlying pattern in real life. I've been labeled a hipster. Many times. Why? I don't know. I tend to have different musical tastes than the majority of the population, so it would make sense that I like bands most people don't. Is it because I'm a hipster? No. When I point out I like people like Lady Gaga, I'm told I only like those groups ironically. I don't do things because they're "cool" or "ironic," I do them because I like to. Unfortunately, this means "I was into it before it was cool" which is another stereotype. There is literally no way out of it. I live in Berkeley, which is considered a "capital" of the "hipster world." Sure, there's a lot of people who listen to alternative music and the like, a lot of people who wear plaid shirts, a lot of people who do whatever. But they do these things because they want to, not because they feel pressured into it. It's like criticizing people on this board for playing D&D. People don't play D&D because it's the "cool thing to do" among nerdier crowds, people play because they want to play. It's enjoyable.
Which brings me to a larger point. Everyone is going to fit into a stereotype if you simplify matters enough. People everywhere like beer. But if you live in the American South and drink a lot of beer, you're a redneck. People everywhere fry food. But fry food in Scotland and suddenly you become a stereotype. I could go on and on. These stereotypes do have roots in reality, but they grow until the stereotypes become more powerful than the actual characteristics of people being labeled. Then, these stereotypes become a prism through which any and every action of a social group is viewed and it becomes a self-fulfilling and self-strengthening prophecy.
For the tl dr crowd: What's wrong with liking things others don't?

[TroubleBrewing]

... Self-troll? :smallconfused:

[Admiral Squish]

Nothing is wrong with liking unusual things. The problem comes when you start liking things BECAUSE nobody else likes them, and trying to be cool because you 'were into them before they were cool'.

[TimeWizard]

...wait, you're so unconformist that you like hipsters? Wow. that's so Hipster.
[/completelynonseriousjoke]

Also, Causation != Correlation. People who drink a lot in the south aren't auto red necks. People who are red necks also tend drink a lot. People aren't hipsters cause they like some obscure stuff, EVERYONE likes something obscure that most others don't. Hipsters like it because being unknown gives them a high horse to look down at people on, cause obviously if you like anything popular in a non-ironic way you are a sheep and don't get the joke. And it's damn annoying.

Also, this isn't the Mariana Trench, so I don't wanna Sea a Deep Vent. *Gets ready for high-five*

[Greenish]

EVERYONE likes something obscure that most others don't.Define "obscure".

[TimeWizard]

Having very little notoriety or fame. Being not especially good but appealing to limited degree of tastes etc...

I'm sure everyone has a band they like thats too niche for radio play, or a 2 star movie that they really like. Maybe an uncommon activity that they do as a hobby. To paraphrase Cracked, mainstream stuff is mainstream because it applies to a very broad group of people and tastes, which is why Transformers is more popular overseas than, say, Brokeback Mountain. Giant robots appeal to a larger audience than the perils of homosexual cowboy love. NOT that either of those is obscure, but it shows the rationale.

Can't everybody say like something that they know is bad? Obligatory Tvtropes: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GuiltyPleasures

Edit: Clarity

[Tyndmyr]

Define "obscure".

I'm into optimizing 7th Sea characters. According to google, I'm pretty much alone in this.

[Greenish]

Having very little notoriety or fame. Being not especially good but appealing to limited degree of tastes etc..."Oscure" = "not good"? :smallconfused::smalltongue:

I know the dictionary definition, but how much is "little fame"?


I'm sure everyone has a band they like thats too niche for radio playWell, they almost never play anything good in radio (or at least I haven't met anyone who'd say otherwise).

or a 2 star movie that they really like.2 stars by what system? I often read a movie review site that pretty much hates every movie I like, but then again they use phrases like "politically correct" (not even "too politically correct") and "strong humanist values" as slurs. (I read it for kicks. :smalltongue:)

Maybe an uncommon activity that they do as a hobby.Define "uncommon". How many people have to do/like something for it to be "uncommon"? :smalltongue:


Can't everybody say like something that they know is bad? Obligatory Tvtropes: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GuiltyPleasuresAgain with the "oscure" = "bad" connotation? Aren't most guilty pleasures rather well known (I mean, why should one feel ashamed of reading/watching/listening to something no one has heard of)?


[Disclaimer]: In case the overuse of smileys didn't give me off, my tongue is firmly in my cheek.

[TimeWizard]

[Disclaimer]: In case the overuse of smileys didn't give me off, my tongue is firmly in my cheek.
I almost missed that and I was thinking, MAN this guy is really agitated about something. :TokenNonthreateningSmiley:

Obscure is a subjective term (The "i'll know it when I see it" defense comes to mind) so its meaning can vary person to person. I never go by professional movie reviews because lets face it, "oscar bait" is a legitimate term, but on the generic scale of 5 stars we can all agree that two-star is mediocre. If you live in an area that has a college radio station you'll probably hear the awesomest music ever that won't hit the main stations. Guilty Pleasures didn't mean Bad=Obscure but rather a reinforcement of Mainstream != Like or Quality != Like, although I agree that for it to be a guilty pleasure it must be at least a little famous or infamous, either as a work or as part of an identifiable group/genre. You reading the CWar for build help isn't a GP in that many people know CWar, but you trying to make a good Dungeons and Dragons character might be (thinking larger populace, I realize this is a DnD forum) for an example of Genre Fame but not Individual Fame. See also: every romance novel ever.


I read it for the reviews
Not for the articles, eh? if you know what I mean:smallwink:
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Not to be confused, say, by liking ObsCure http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ObsCure_(video_game)
or The Cure.


EDIT: Also, c'mon, that Mariana Trench bit was GOLD. No lovin'?

[Greenish]

You reading the CWar for build help isn't a GP in that many people know CWar, but you trying to make a good Dungeons and Dragons character might be (thinking larger populace, I realize this is a DnD forum) for an example of Genre Fame but not Individual Fame.Well, gaming is pretty mainstream nowadays.

EDIT: Also, c'mon, that Mariana Trench bit was GOLD. No lovin'?Are there vents in the trench? Maybe, since it's so long, but it's not known for them. :smalltongue:

[Lord.Sorasen]

Guys.
- Almost everyone here is into Dungeons and Dragons, which is not something enjoyed by the mainstream.
- What's more, a large number of people from this forum will talk about other, less popular, alternative systems, which are less popular but better than Dungeons and Dragons.
- Another group of people love to talk about how much better D&D was before 4th edition, where it made the mistake of appealing to the more mainstream video game audiences, ie selling out.

I know we all love to make fun of hipsters, but by the loose definition of hipster we have chosen to adopt, this forum is mostly hipsters. You could easily tell me the difference is the reasons for these behaviors, but since one of the key aspects of hipsters is not being self-aware, it doesn't rule this out at all.

So yes, I make fun of hipsters. I make fun of hipsters sarcastically.*

*"ironically" is the bit I cannot stand. The very fact that I did it intentionally means it cannot be ironic. A much more fitting term is sarcasm, because that's what it is. I guess I'm being a hipster even by making this sentiment.

[Eldan]

*"ironically" is the bit I cannot stand. The very fact that I did it intentionally means it cannot be ironic. A much more fitting term is sarcasm, because that's what it is. I guess I'm being a hipster even by making this sentiment.

How ironic.

[DeadManSleeping]

*"ironically" is the bit I cannot stand. The very fact that I did it intentionally means it cannot be ironic. A much more fitting term is sarcasm, because that's what it is. I guess I'm being a hipster even by making this sentiment.

Erm...irony is capable of being intentional. In fact, it pretty much ONLY refers to things done intentionally.

[Lonely Tylenol]

Erm...irony is capable of being intentional. In fact, it pretty much ONLY refers to things done intentionally.

Pfeh. I liked this thread better when it was still dead.

[The-Mage-King]

Pfeh. I liked this thread better when it was still dead.

Meh. I liked it better before it sold out and became mainstream.

[Xanmyral]

Eh, this thread was better a few pages back, when it wasn't first page.

[BenInHB]

Prussia, why thats such a gone country mann.

I can't believe you had the Gaul to say that about Prussia.

[Eldan]

Phh. Gaul. They really went to hell when they started to be sponsored by Roman Empire.

[Knaight]

Phh. Gaul. They really went to hell when they started to be sponsored by Roman Empire.

Pssh, Romans. Post Hittite culture simply isn't the same.

[Silus]

"What god do you worship?"
"You've probably never heard of him, instead of a written name he has a symbol."

And now I want to make a Deity portfolio for the artist formerly known as Prince.

[Lonely Tylenol]

And now I want to make a Deity portfolio for the artist formerly known as Prince.

Bah! That's so last-century. Nowadays we worship the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as Prince.

[Eldan]

I was into this universe before it was cool.

[Knaight]

I was into this universe before it was cool.

I wouldn't call 3 kelvin cool. By that point, energy is popular.

[Morph Bark]

I was into existence before anything (including me) was into existence.

[Cespenar]

Existence is way overrated.

[Timeless Error]

I liked this thread before everyone was posting in it again. :smallfrown:

[Talya]

Bah. Sad I missed this...I used to do this a lot.


If anyone remembers Everquest, this was one of mine... (people seem to have copied it all over the net).

http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=59016

Actually, I seem to recall having done one here in the last year or two, as well... now i need to look for it.

[Tvtyrant]

Pssh, Romans. Post Hittite culture simply isn't the same.

Well if you enjoy those cruddy post-stone age cultures... I was into vestiges of dead gods before they were dead.

[Ryu_Bonkosi]

I was in to not being in to things before it was cool to not be into things. :smallcool:

[HalfDragonCube]

I was in to not being in to things before it was cool to not be into things. :smallcool:

Confused cube is confused.

*Re-reads*

... I'm out.

[Timeless Error]

I was in to not being in to things before it was cool to not be into things. :smallcool:

Oh yeah! Well I'm into not being into not being into things! Let's see how long it takes for that to get mainstream.

[Cespenar]

Oh yeah! Well I'm into not being into not being into things! Let's see how long it takes for that to get mainstream.

It became mainstream the moment you thought of it.

[Eldan]

I was never into anything.

[Qaera]

I'm a postmodern hipster. :smallcool:

~ ♅

[Darth Stabber]

I'm a postmodern hipster. :smallcool:

~ ♅

Postmodern is too mainstream, I'm a pre-impressionist hipster

[Mono Vertigo]

This thread was better before I was into it.