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Tengu_temp
2011-05-02, 06:31 PM
Are you able to create a character with at most 10 consitution, no powers, feats or base modifiers that increase attack, defense or toughness, and who still is useful in a fight as a combatant, both offensively and defensively? No excessive cheese.

The Rose Dragon
2011-05-03, 01:42 AM
Let's see. Since you're talking about defense, this must be Second Edition.

It is possible, although it requires a little cheese - namely, Create Object. You take 10 ranks of Create Object, take Tether, Selective, Affects Insubstantial power feats, and take the Impervious extra. This protects you against any attacks that aren't Perception-range or Indirect (assuming the Indirect allows the attack to bypass the cover on all sides) by giving you solid cover with a Toughness of 10. The harder it is for others to see through your objects, the better. This does not really create the full effects of having a good defense or Toughness, but it will help against traditional attacks.

For the no attack part, you can take Perception-range or area attacks, which do not require attack rolls.

EDIT: Alternatively, you can simply take Immunity for everything, but that does defeat the point of this exercise, I suppose.

J.Gellert
2011-05-03, 02:44 AM
Max Stealth, Hide in Plain Sight, then max Summon and/or Minions-type feats.

And perception-range or area attack powers, of course. Probably Selective too, you'll have points to spare and wouldn't want to hit your Summons :smalltongue:

The Big Dice
2011-05-03, 02:47 AM
Lots of ranks of Insubstantial. Add in an attack power with the Affects Substantial extra. Enough cheese to make a pizza right there.

Indon
2011-05-03, 03:43 PM
Are you able to create a character with at most 10 consitution, no powers, feats or base modifiers that increase attack, defense or toughness, and who still is useful in a fight as a combatant, both offensively and defensively? No excessive cheese.

Anything heavily oriented around summoning or controlling things. You control your tools/brainwashees/summons remotely from your command center/volcanic island/pentagram, never endangering yourself.

Get some way to communicate with your party, be it telepathy or radios, and you're golden.

Build-wise:

-Animal Control with Mental Link and Sensory Link.
-Mind Control w/ Mental Link and Sensory Link.
-Mind Switch (in conjunction with a super-sense that lets you target people for the power).
-Summon(Minion), after working it out with your DM.

You may also want Transform with Continuous.