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NineThePuma
2011-05-14, 10:04 PM
I need something to give me a huge boost to spot checks, with minimal investment (a level 1 spell slot). I'm worried about my level 1 Sorc getting snuck up on and stabbed in the back.

Any ideas?
Gamer Girl
2011-05-14, 10:11 PM
Eyes of the Avoral, 1st level spell +8 to spot, Book of Exalted deeds
NineThePuma
2011-05-14, 10:27 PM
Sadly, BoED is banned. =<

I presume there was a bad experience with certain things (like, sanctify the wicked, VoP, and Ravages).

Anything else?
Ernir
2011-05-14, 10:35 PM
Beg Hawkeye (Spell Compendium) from the Druid or Ranger lists?

I would also like to say that stuff like this is precisely why I don't do sourcebook restrictions any more. Eyes of the Avoral is the spell you are looking for. :smallsigh:
NineThePuma
2011-05-14, 10:38 PM
Hawkeye is level 1 Druid?

Duration?
Zaq
2011-05-15, 01:21 AM
Hawkeye is level 1 Druid?

Duration?

10 minutes per level.
NineThePuma
2011-05-15, 01:42 AM
Hmmm... *debates on value of taking potions*
TroubleBrewing
2011-05-15, 04:17 AM
Try wands, you get more uses for your GP.
NineThePuma
2011-05-15, 04:25 AM
At level 1 I lack the money for wands.

Oh well, stealth builds are all that can take me out with ridiculous ease.
TroubleBrewing
2011-05-15, 04:58 AM
Ah, I just looked and saw the "level 1 sorc" bit in the OP.

Sorry about that. Maybe something to invest in later?
The Dark Fiddler
2011-05-15, 06:39 AM
Try to ask your DM for a specific allowance for Eyes of the Avoral? Or a spell just like it?

You could try to research a spell just like it, but I'm pretty sure that's too expensive at the moment.
Thrice Dead Cat
2011-05-15, 08:35 AM
Honestly, the issue here is that it is first level. First level is swingy, even for barbarians. Twenty HP, tops, only goes so far. And while a little paranoia is understandable, it honestly would be easier just to chat with your GM about this sort of thing.
mint
2011-05-15, 11:28 AM
The Arcane option is Crown of Clarity.
Level 3 spell. +2 passive to spot and listen. Long duration.
Consume effect for +8 on a single check in either.
HalfDragonCube
2011-05-15, 12:23 PM
Snuck up on and stabbed in the back? You don't necessarily need spot for that, although at level one you are restricted greatly in your options.
Divide by Zero
2011-05-15, 03:11 PM
Honestly, the issue here is that it is first level. First level is swingy, even for barbarians. Twenty HP, tops, only goes so far. And while a little paranoia is understandable, it honestly would be easier just to chat with your GM about this sort of thing.

This. I don't think I'd ever want to run or play in a game earlier than about level 3.
Koury
2011-05-15, 11:18 PM
I am 97.4% sure that this is for the GitP arena.
NineThePuma
2011-05-15, 11:23 PM
It is. I just kept it general so as to avoid it popping up on a search for the Arena. Wanted to check for stuff. Will probably spend money on Potions of Hawk Eye.
Malkav
2011-05-16, 02:56 AM
I need something to give me a huge boost to spot checks
Any ideas?

Hawk Familiar. Hawks have a +14. They can do the KaKaw KaKaw thingy.
NineThePuma
2011-05-16, 02:59 AM
Can't nab a familiar, as I need to have Metamagic Specialist for my build to work. Thanks tho.


I'll consider this thread solved. =D
Bagger
2011-05-16, 07:24 AM
just to clear it up..

the last thing Wizards of the cost said was BoED is 3.5 core..

I know it sounds really silly but its true :)
NineThePuma
2011-05-16, 07:34 AM
Source plz?
Bagger
2011-05-16, 08:22 AM
at work atm, got it at home, ill post it up later kk?
Bagger
2011-05-16, 08:27 AM
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/er/20040125a

its listed as the updated 3.5

its what I can find atm at work. hope its enough for you..


but remember anything in that book is supernatural effects :)

so vow of poverty monks can be cancel with an antimagic field :D
Thespianus
2011-05-16, 08:36 AM
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/er/20040125a

its listed as the updated 3.5
Uhm.. That's not "Core", those are just books that have received updates/erratas.
Malkav
2011-05-16, 09:02 AM
Can't nab a familiar, as I need to have Metamagic Specialist for my build to work. Thanks tho.


I'll consider this thread solved. =D

Buy twenty chickens and tether them together.
HalfDragonCube
2011-05-16, 01:03 PM
Buy twenty chickens and tether them together.

That is actually a completely brilliant idea. Chickens last longer and cost less than potions. Almost no assassin can completely avoid a large roomful of chickens sleeping beside you.


http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/er/20040125a

its listed as the updated 3.5

its what I can find atm at work. hope its enough for you..


but remember anything in that book is supernatural effects :)

so vow of poverty monks can be cancel with an antimagic field :D

I think I might put that on my 'list of uncommon misconceptions'.
Seonor
2011-05-16, 03:19 PM
Almost no assassin can completely avoid a large roomful of chickens sleeping beside you.


Try Geese if you really want to screw that assasin. Nothing escapes their notice. Nothing. They are also loud and their beaks hurt.
HalfDragonCube
2011-05-16, 03:23 PM
Try Geese if you really want to screw that assasin. Nothing escapes their notice. Nothing. They are also loud and their beaks hurt.

As an added bonus, they might feel like breaking some arms. Probably yours, but it is the thought that counts really.