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Natael
2011-05-15, 11:14 AM
I'm looking into building a reasonably pimped out aburer focused wizard. I am dead set on Abjurant Champion and Master Specialist for the neat powers and flavour. I'm avoiding initiate of 7 fold due to keeping some of my power down and flavour issues. Game is starting at level 10, so that is the build I'm looking at right now

Stats are:
13/14/16/20(both level bonuses)/13/11
13/(16)/(18)/(22)/13/11 if you include magic items.
Yeah, the GM had some kind of insane rolling method, but at least it helps out non-casters (rest of party is duskblade, dungeon delver, fighter, and cleric).

Right now, I'm looking at the following build:

Banned schools: Illusion/Enchantment/Evocation
Good chance I'll switch evocation with necromancy due to flavour.

Alt class features: Immediate Magic and Focused Specialist

Human
Abjurer 2(prec appre)/master specialist 4/warblade 2/abjurant champ 2

feats from levels:
prec apprentice
spell focus (abj)
combat casting

undecided about level 6 and 9 (not sure if I want to power attack/knowledge devotion, or just go for spell stuff)

Warblade is to get into abjurant champian quicker, as well as to get the maneuvers that let me concentration check my saving throws, and the HP padding doesn't hurt. Kills my caster level a bit, though due to balance with the rest of the players kind of low op (especially compared to a smart wizard), I don't mind too much, might take wild mage or just practiced spell caster to remedy it.

Mostly, I'm a bit undecided if I am going to try to gish a little, though probably shouldent bother. If I don't gish at all, perhaps I should drop warblade, and fit in human paragon to get more int, but I do like the crazy good saving throw maneuvers, especially with the master specialist's moderate esoterica.

I guess I'd like to know if there is an alright way to work a little gishiness into the build (mostly through feats and maybe alter self, and later polymorph), or if I should scrap the idea and to take more master spec now, and worry about abjurant champion once I level beyond 10.

I did take a look at other topics, but couldent find a build on this idea that included master spec and ignored seven fold veil, I apologize for making a redundant topic if I missed something.

herrhauptmann
2011-05-15, 02:14 PM
I'd suggest dropping the precocious apprentice, and instead taking Collegiate wizard. Which would be better: A single extra 2nd level spell a day, or learning twice as many spells for each level up?
Especially important if the DM says the wizard can't buy access to additional spells at character creation.

If the choice is abjurer or master specialist, I'd say take Master Specialist.
If the choice is Master Specialist or Abj Champ, I'd say take Abj Champ. Especially if you're intending to access a lot of the more martial aspects of your character.

Your martial maneuvers, I'd say you should take your warblade levels as late as possible, so you get a larger boost to your initiator level. A Wiz4/Warblade 1 gets access to 2nd level maneuvers...

Natael
2011-05-15, 02:21 PM
I'd suggest dropping the precocious apprentice, and instead taking Collegiate wizard. Which would be better: A single extra 2nd level spell a day, or learning twice as many spells for each level up?
Especially important if the DM says the wizard can't buy access to additional spells at character creation.

If the choice is abjurer or master specialist, I'd say take Master Specialist.
If the choice is Master Specialist or Abj Champ, I'd say take Abj Champ. Especially if you're intending to access a lot of the more martial aspects of your character.

Your martial maneuvers, I'd say you should take your warblade levels as late as possible, so you get a larger boost to your initiator level. A Wiz4/Warblade 1 gets access to 2nd level maneuvers...

Choice was going to be all three of abjurer, master specialist and abjurant champion. I intend to take the warblade levels at level 7 and 8, so I can pick up all of the concentration check maneuvers with those levels.

I'll have to check with the DM, though I was expecting to have to buy a scroll to be able to copy spells into my book (and as such, collegate sounds nice). Prec Apprentice was being taken so I can take my 3rd level as Master Specialist, as I've seen that used often.