DracoDei
2011-05-16, 01:59 PM
Compliant Soul
Whether from a soft spot towards vestiges or some weakpoint in your will, once you are under a vestige's influence its grip is unbreakable.
Prerequisites: Ability to bind a vestige. (Player must be skilled at roleplaying influences, as subject to GM discretion).
Drawbacks: You take a -2 penalty to all binding checks. This specifically includes the check to expel a vestige with the Expel Vestige feat, and checks to bind a vestige, however there may be some other uses for a binding check that the GM may rule do not incur this penalty.
In addition, if you are under a vestige's Influence you may not violate it (by taking the -1 penalty to attack rolls, saving throws, and checks). If the Influences of two vestiges you are bound to conflict in a given situation, with no possible way of following them both (regardless of the risks or implications of such a solution) you may follow one, or the other, or some middle-path between the two in that situation. Middle paths are subject to GM acceptance.
Special: You do not gain the corresponding feat that this flaw grants you until you have an effective binder level of at least 2. (Note that this is possible at 1st level if you take both the Bind Vestige and Bind Vestige, Improved feats).
The question in the header is directed at the idea that delaying the receiving of the feat to second level could allow, for instance, a single classed binder to get Quick-Draw or Weapon Finesse a level earlier. I am sure other such tricks exist, especially if one multi-classes and waits until a later level to pick up one's binder levels (especially the second binder level). Is this cheese or not?
Is the fact that using only the PHB and ToM a human could have a binder level of 5 (although with limited powers from bound vestiges) generally considered cheesy?
Another question: Should change it so you are automatically under the Influence of all vestiges you bind, but that if you make the binding roll you can still suppress or show their sign if you have the appropriate class feature? Expel Vestige would probably suffer no penalty under this scenario.
I am also interested in general critique.
Whether from a soft spot towards vestiges or some weakpoint in your will, once you are under a vestige's influence its grip is unbreakable.
Prerequisites: Ability to bind a vestige. (Player must be skilled at roleplaying influences, as subject to GM discretion).
Drawbacks: You take a -2 penalty to all binding checks. This specifically includes the check to expel a vestige with the Expel Vestige feat, and checks to bind a vestige, however there may be some other uses for a binding check that the GM may rule do not incur this penalty.
In addition, if you are under a vestige's Influence you may not violate it (by taking the -1 penalty to attack rolls, saving throws, and checks). If the Influences of two vestiges you are bound to conflict in a given situation, with no possible way of following them both (regardless of the risks or implications of such a solution) you may follow one, or the other, or some middle-path between the two in that situation. Middle paths are subject to GM acceptance.
Special: You do not gain the corresponding feat that this flaw grants you until you have an effective binder level of at least 2. (Note that this is possible at 1st level if you take both the Bind Vestige and Bind Vestige, Improved feats).
The question in the header is directed at the idea that delaying the receiving of the feat to second level could allow, for instance, a single classed binder to get Quick-Draw or Weapon Finesse a level earlier. I am sure other such tricks exist, especially if one multi-classes and waits until a later level to pick up one's binder levels (especially the second binder level). Is this cheese or not?
Is the fact that using only the PHB and ToM a human could have a binder level of 5 (although with limited powers from bound vestiges) generally considered cheesy?
Another question: Should change it so you are automatically under the Influence of all vestiges you bind, but that if you make the binding roll you can still suppress or show their sign if you have the appropriate class feature? Expel Vestige would probably suffer no penalty under this scenario.
I am also interested in general critique.