veven
2011-05-16, 10:16 PM
My google foo is weak and I have been unable to find really definite answers to some questions.
First off, I know that fear effects stack but the sources of the effects are what confuse me.
My understanding is that if you have Never outnumbered (skill trick) and you demoralize your opponents so they are Shaken, then your wizard friend casts Scare (assuming your enemies fail their saves) they are then panicked instead of frightened.
My confusion is that I don't know how fear effects that come from the same person would stack. Would Righteous Wrath stack with the demoralize use of intimidate? It's coming from the same character but one is just a static will save and one is based on a skill check so I feel like this would work.
Would Righteous Wrath stack with Frightful Presence?
Would the demoralize option stack with Intimidating rage?
I feel like those two examples wouldn't work because they are so similar...Righteous Wrath and Frightful Presence are based off of will saves and Demoralizing and Intimidating rage are both based off of intimidate checks (intimidating rage is actually just a free action demoralize so I am fairly positive that those won't work together).
Also, where does Imperious Command fit into all this? Cowering is an awesome status but where does it fit in on the status path of fear effects? Shaken-Frightened-Panicked.....but Cowering is somehow it's own thing?
Please someone make sense of all this! I have been wracking my brain trying to sort it all out. I will love you forever if you can help.
First off, I know that fear effects stack but the sources of the effects are what confuse me.
My understanding is that if you have Never outnumbered (skill trick) and you demoralize your opponents so they are Shaken, then your wizard friend casts Scare (assuming your enemies fail their saves) they are then panicked instead of frightened.
My confusion is that I don't know how fear effects that come from the same person would stack. Would Righteous Wrath stack with the demoralize use of intimidate? It's coming from the same character but one is just a static will save and one is based on a skill check so I feel like this would work.
Would Righteous Wrath stack with Frightful Presence?
Would the demoralize option stack with Intimidating rage?
I feel like those two examples wouldn't work because they are so similar...Righteous Wrath and Frightful Presence are based off of will saves and Demoralizing and Intimidating rage are both based off of intimidate checks (intimidating rage is actually just a free action demoralize so I am fairly positive that those won't work together).
Also, where does Imperious Command fit into all this? Cowering is an awesome status but where does it fit in on the status path of fear effects? Shaken-Frightened-Panicked.....but Cowering is somehow it's own thing?
Please someone make sense of all this! I have been wracking my brain trying to sort it all out. I will love you forever if you can help.