Spawn vs Guyver

[hivedragon]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/8083/spawn2.jpg
vs
http://www.elec-intro.com/EX/05-13-11/guyver.gif

Edit: This match-up is out of genuine curiosity, please do not say which one is better than the other without explanation because I want to hear your thought process. I haven't read the comics of either character I just watched the movies and cartoons for each character so it might be a good idea to point out which media you are drawing your conclusions from.

[The Rose Dragon]

I'm just gonna link the guidelines on Versus threads here. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70661) It would immensely help both the discussion and to keep this thread alive if you followed them.

[Tanuki Tales]

Especially since some versions of Spawn curbstomp Guyver hard.

[Dr.Epic]

I'm just gonna link the guidelines on Versus threads here. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70661) It would immensely help both the discussion and to keep this thread alive if you followed them.

Not to mention a title that's a little more specific. Anyone else wonder what he was talking about before clicking this or who was fighting who?

[Traab]

Lets work with what we have. Apparently its movie spawn without his cape. I know nothing about guyver though.

[Mx.Silver]

Not to mention a title that's a little more specific. Anyone else wonder what he was talking about before clicking this or who was fighting who?

I was expecting it to be about this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versus_%28film%29)

[Zaydos]

Don't know Spawn well. If it was movie Spawn without his cape versus movie Guyver I'd go with the latter. Guyver's arm-blades and the fact that the suit can take over and level the playing field in fighting skill gives the Guyver the edge, and if push comes to shove it has its chest cannon.

Spawn with his cape is a closer fight, but if it's movie Spawn I don't remember him having anything that rivaled the chest cannon in raw power. Also would Spawn know how to kill the Guyver? Even in the movie if you don't destroy the control crystal the Guyver comes right back.

In the case of comic Spawn vs comic Guyver, I don't know much about Spawn but I'd bet on him unless the Guyver could call on the Guyver Gigantic power armor at which point it can create a black hole and the battle just got over the top.

[Tanuki Tales]

In the case of comic Spawn vs comic Guyver, I don't know much about Spawn but I'd bet on him unless the Guyver could call on the Guyver Gigantic power armor at which point it can create a black hole and the battle just got over the top.

Comic Spawn dips between being Street level with some magic powers to being more powerful than either God or Satan. Around his middle ground he's still powerful enough to beat Hell lords like Malebolgia.

This is only comic Spawn mind you.

[Mikeavelli]

Both Spawn and Guyver tend to be exactly how powerful the plot needs them to be at a particular point in time. Both have been badly beaten \ nearly killed by a mid-tier opponents in their respective universes, and then gone on to defeat top-tier opponents.

I'd give this one to spawn, mostly out of whims.

[Thrawn183]

Depends which Guyver we use, even from the manga. If we use the protagonist from when he starts out and is some pansy? Ouch, he's really only got regeneration, arm blades, all around vision and the chest beam of doom going for him (though that's impressive on it's own).

It should be mentioned that a lot of the time the Guyver unit has problems against mid-tier opponents is when they've literally been genetically designed to fight solely the Guyver, even to the extent that they can't even survive for much longer than a week or so.

The Guyver does get some pretty cool abilities like flight and all around vision. Really, we need a lot more guidance from the OP on how this is supposed to be structured. The regeneration granted by the Guyver is pretty crazy when you consider that its severed limb grew an entire new organism.

So....
Beginning manga Guyver vs beginning movie Spawn: Guyver
Beginning manga Guyver vs end movie Spawn: probably Spawn

After that, it's gonna be pretty tough to call without some more guidelines.

[Tanuki Tales]

So....
Beginning manga Guyver vs beginning movie Spawn: Guyver
Beginning manga Guyver vs end movie Spawn: probably Spawn

After that, it's gonna be pretty tough to call without some more guidelines.

So...you're already stacking the deck against Spawn by not using his beginning comic version who was more powerful than the movie one? :smallconfused:

[Necro_EX]

Well, what's the most powerful thing Guyver has taken on and beaten?

I mean, spawn is the equal of his universe's versions of the Abrahamic God and Satan, that's got to be tough to match.

EDIT: If we're just using movie Spawn it's hard to say. At the end he takes on Violator so that's worth something.

It's been so long since I've even looked at Guyver, so I'm not so certain about that. :/

[Prime32]

Well, what's the most powerful thing Guyver has taken on and beaten?A super-intelligent skyscraper-sized dragon made of essentially cancer cells who can control the minds of an entire city at once, absorb anything he touches, block attacks with a forcefield, and fire city-busting lasers (along with rapid-fire building-buster missiles that ignore barriers).

He killed it in one shot.


Some videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztlv0jLEmJc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_kt9N_qaQY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvVqUwjOY5A

[Tanuki Tales]

A super-intelligent skyscraper-sized dragon made of essentially cancer cells who can control the minds of an entire city at once, absorb anything he touches, block attacks with a forcefield, and fire city-busting lasers (along with rapid-fire building-buster missiles that ignore barriers).

He killed it in one shot.

Literally one shot or grueling battle and beat it with one final hit?

Regardless I would match mid-tier Spawn against that version of Guyver honestly, though I might have to remember a weaker version of Spawn that'd make it a more equal fight (seeing as mid-tier Spawn beat Malebolgia in the Eight Circle of Hell where Male was essentially omnipotent).

[Prime32]

Literally one shot or grueling battle and beat it with one final hit?A grueling battle (though partly because Guyver kept taking hits for innocent bystanders), then his opponent ate a bunch of people to go One Winged Angel and heal all his injuries. He then charged the citybuster, forcing Guyver to risk using "Gravity Implosion" before he could fire (to protect the inhabitants more than himself). It basically removes a section of space from existence with great precision, killing his opponent and negating his attack without harming anything else. He didn't use it before then because it had a long charging time.

...though note that Guyver's idea of a long charging time is much shorter than typical shonen stuff, since enemies will try to attack you while you're charging and most of them are very fast - his typical finishing move was interrupted about half the time in early chapters. Some of his other attacks in that fight were more powerful (exceeding the aforementioned citybuster), but would cause too much collateral damage.

[Tanuki Tales]

A grueling battle, then his opponent ate a bunch of people to go One Winged Angel and heal all his injuries. He then charged the citybuster, forcing Guyver to risk using "Gravity Implosion" before he could fire (to protect the inhabitants more than himself). It basically removes a section of space from existence with great precision, killing his opponent and negating his attack without harming anything else. He didn't use it before then because it had a long charging time.

...though note that Guyver's idea of a long charging time is much shorter than typical shonen stuff, since enemies will try to attack you while you're charging and most of them are very fast - his typical finishing move was interrupted about half the time in early chapters. Some of his other attacks in that fight were more powerful, but would cause too much collateral damage.

Oh, I have no question that Guyver is a competent opponent and honestly sounds somewhere above the characters from Project A.R.M.S. in some cases (who are ridiculously powerful themselves). I'm just curious to all the little tidbits over his capabilities since:

A. I've yet to read past the first arc or so because of the fact I can't seem to find a good source for it.

B. His opponent ranges in power from being about as dangerous as Wolverine with some minor magic skill to being essentially omnipotent (more so than his universe's God or Satan).

[Prime32]

A. I've yet to read past the first arc or so because of the fact I can't seem to find a good source for it.The modern anime covers events up to the timeskip, though it leaves out a plotline about Guyver's arm.

I'd say the two biggest problems when Guyver shows up in these debates are:

How hard is it to destroy an active Control Medal?
What happens if the Guyver's host is killed while the Control Medal is in subspace?

[Necro_EX]

A super-intelligent skyscraper-sized dragon made of essentially cancer cells who can control the minds of an entire city at once, absorb anything he touches, block attacks with a forcefield, and fire city-busting lasers (along with rapid-fire building-buster missiles that ignore barriers).

He killed it in one shot.


Some videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztlv0jLEmJc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_kt9N_qaQY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvVqUwjOY5A

Why the hell haven't I been reading/watching this?

[Muz]

*makes ready to post*
*notices it's "Guyver" rather than the initially mis-read "MacGyver"*
*turns away, forlorn*

:smallwink:

[Venom3053000]

:smallbiggrin: i know who Guyver was.

though i only watched the movie.

yeah pretty sure spawn wins in like one minute.

[The Glyphstone]

*makes ready to post*
*notices it's "Guyver" rather than the initially mis-read "MacGyver"*
*turns away, forlorn*

:smallwink:

Now I kinda want to see a Guyver vs. MacGuyver thread...

[JabberwockySupafly]

Now I kinda want to see a Guyver vs. MacGuyver thread...

There's no point. We all know the immediate victor is MacGuyver. While Guyver is busy charging a super attack, MacGuyver would simply manufacture a device capable of dissolving Guyver at an atomic level from the spare parts of a hair dryer and some bits of string.