Good Metamagic Feats for a Focused Abjurer

[Bobmufin52]

As the title says, I’m setting up a Focused Abjurer for a game and was just thinking ahead for feat selections and though I could use some metamagic feats, but I’m not sure which ones would be good for an Abjurer. So do you guys have any suggestions? Thanks in advance!

[Dylaer]

Extend Spell is quite useful for Abjuration. Other feats you may want are the Abjuration reserve feat (for the +1CL, not for the effect) or any other feat that increases your Abjuration caster level - you will hate dispellers with a passion.

[Bobmufin52]

I'm getting that reserve feat next level for exactly the reason you stated. lol Also, there's an Abjuration spell called Energy Vunlnerability (CMage p. 112) that I plan to use quite a bit; I just had a though wondering if the Empower Spell feat would make the vunerability go up to 75% more damage, or would it say at just 50%?

[Eldariel]

Not metamagic, but Extraordinary Spell Aim/Mastery of Shaping is awesome with e.g. Dispels, Maw of Chaos & AMF is excellent. For actual metamagic, Chain Spell is incredible with targeted Dispels, and various buffs (touch range buffs can be Chained with help from Arcane Reach [Archmage]). Various auras and buffs benefit of Extend Spell, and Persistent Spell I guess (though it's always iffy outside few very specific spells due to the massive level adjustment).

[Dylaer]

Problem is, it's non-random, so it stays at 50%. Maybe Heighten it for extra DC if you like, but there'd not be much more.

[Bobmufin52]

Eldariel: Thanks for pointing out Extraordinary Spell Aim, that actually looks really good, more so since I’m not planning/probably can’t get into the Archmage PrC for Mastery of Shaping.

Dylaer: I though as much…I just wasn’t completely sure cuse of the weird wording of the feat.

[Jack_Simth]

Chain Spell. Most magic items have a fairly low caster level, and most builds rely fairly heavily on their magic items. A Chained Targeted Dispel Magic (or it's Greater cousin) will usually ruins an opponent's day (target him, and all of his items).

[ericgrau]

Lesser rod of extend spell (rather than the feat) for the many level 1-3 buffs.
Spell focus (abjuration) isn't actually that useful until you get level 5-6+ spells. Heighten is useful even later than that.
Boosting caster level for the many caster level checks would be nice.
Quicken, twin or anything else for multiple spells is always useful at high level.

I can't think of much for low level. You might want to get some things early.

[supermonkeyjoe]

A one level dip on Abjurant Champion (complete Mage) gets you all Abjurations Extended for Free!

take four levels in Abjurant champion you can get 1st and 2nd level abjurations quickened for Free!

Also full BaB and d10HD,a boost to Abjuration shield and armour AC bonuses and the ability to burn spells for abjuration effects.

[Seth62]

Abjurer are awesome, favorite school ever, If you want a good prestige take Initiate of the sevenfold veil from Complete Arcane page 44

[Bobmufin52]

Abjurer are awesome, favorite school ever, If you want a good prestige take Initiate of the sevenfold veil from Complete Arcane page 44

I would love to take that class, if nothing more than to say I'm protecting my team with the power of rainbows, but I've already taken levels in Master Specialist, and idk how my DM handles Multiclassing, but from the way he runs his game, I'd assume I would get a massive XP penalty for it, so defensive rainbow powers must wait for another day. :smalltongue:

[Dusk Eclipse]

RAW Prg. Classes never count for the purposes of EXP. penalties and such penalties should burn in baator for all eternity, they don't even work the way they are intended (they encourage a lot of dips)

[Eldariel]

I would love to take that class, if nothing more than to say I'm protecting my team with the power of rainbows, but I've already taken levels in Master Specialist, and idk how my DM handles Multiclassing, but from the way he runs his game, I'd assume I would get a massive XP penalty for it, so defensive rainbow powers must wait for another day. :smalltongue:

The Perfect Abjurer Shell is Abjurer 3/Master Specialist 10/Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil 7. You finish all your classes, get a whole whoppin' effton of awesome Abjuration-based special abilities and Kaleidoscopic Doom spells doom to any buffstacked character. And no, Abjurant Champion doesn't belong; it's for Gishes, not Mages and it's based on personal abjuration rather than the good stuff.

PRCs don't count for multiclass penalties and even if they did, I have a hard time seeing a DM ban two thematically linked PRCs in a character where you finish both.


Generally, you want to go Abjurer 3/Master Specialist 6/Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil -> ('cause that's the earliest you can enter Initiate).

[Bobmufin52]

I though PrCs just followed the normal rules for multiclass XP penalties…well, anyway I still don’t think my DM will allow it, he’s kinda weirdly strict like that; in fact his weird strictness is why I’m playing an abjurer instead of a summoning conjurer (He said that summoned monsters count toward the number of people who help in a fight, so casting any summon monster spell would pull XP away from the whole party. Have no idea why he does it. >.>) I guess I could ask, but I doubt he’ll allow it. T_T

[Eldariel]

I though PrCs just followed the normal rules for multiclass XP penalties…well, anyway I still don’t think my DM will allow it, he’s kinda weirdly strict like that; in fact his weird strictness is why I’m playing an abjurer instead of a summoning conjurer (He said that summoned monsters count toward the number of people who help in a fight, so casting any summon monster spell would pull XP away from the whole party. Have no idea why he does it. >.>) I guess I could ask, but I doubt he’ll allow it. T_T

Might help if you point out segments in DMG/PHB that cover those matters :smallwink: Maybe he's just not aware that the official rules cover those matters. Yes, may be he just dislikes the official rules and houserules them; that's fine too. You never know until you ask though.

[Endarire]

I concur about asking him. Many relationships have gone poorly because of poor communication and mismatched expectation.

[Bobmufin52]

I asked him a while ago cuse I was going to play a summoning conjurer when we were starting the game, that’s how I learned about his ruling. (The abjurer is a replacement character for my rouge/fighter archer who got killed.) I like the build I made for the abjurer too, so I want to stick to it for now.

Also, While I really like ISFV, I’m going to hold off on asking him if I can take it for now cuse I’ve already pushed it by being a focused abjurer (he didn’t know about the variant at first and after reading it said he thought it was gaining stuff without losing anything major) and I actually kind of want to finish out Master specialist before I go into ISFV anyway, so I’ll just hold off on asking for now…

[Eldan]

While they are situational, I think Transdimensional Spell and Invisible spell are never really wrong.