Good arcane PrC?

[SlashRunner]

I'm building a character that will be Wizard 5/Mindbender 1/Ur-Priest 2/Mystic Theurge 8/some PrC 4, but I can't find any PrC that seems to fit.
So, does anyone know of a good, full-casting arcane PrC that gains good benefits in 4 levels and would fit in with the rest of the build?

[Lateral]

Archmage always works.

[dextercorvia]

Dweomerkeeper. (Requires your Wizard 5 feat for the Magic Domain power and the feat Arcane Disciple, but Supernatural spells are worth it.)

Contemplative is a good 4 level dip. I read the text as saying that it advances any casting, but I've been yelled at for that reading. YMMV.

Tainted Scholar would be a thematic fit. The crunch is so-so. :smallwink:

[Dylaer]

WARNING: Cheese

Tainted Scholar - but only if you don't mind sending your DM into a murderous rage. Really, you should drop the 2nd level of Ur-priest for it and grab Necropolitan for taint immunity. If you want super-mega-brokenness, look up "Metaphysical Spellshaper".

You have been warned. I'm assuming this must be a theoretical build, or you have an insane DM, because I wouldn't allow Ur-priest, never mind Tainted Ur-Theurge Wizard. Sure, thematically, works well, but in practice... Every 8 spells you cast gives you +8 points of depravity, which is now your casting stat in terms of spells/day.

[SlashRunner]

Doesn't Dweomerkeeper require a domain? As in, a Cleric domain?

[dextercorvia]

Doesn't Dweomerkeeper require a domain? As in, a Cleric domain?

That's why I said what I said. All that means is that you need the domain power and the domain spells. You get the power by trading your 5th level wizard feat away via the CC ACF. The spells are just another feat away.

[Wings of Peace]

WARNING: Cheese

Tainted Scholar - but only if you don't mind sending your DM into a murderous rage. Really, you should drop the 2nd level of Ur-priest for it and grab Necropolitan for taint immunity. If you want super-mega-brokenness, look up "Metaphysical Spellshaper".

You have been warned. I'm assuming this must be a theoretical build, or you have an insane DM, because I wouldn't allow Ur-priest, never mind Tainted Ur-Theurge Wizard. Sure, thematically, works well, but in practice... Every 8 spells you cast gives you +8 points of depravity, which is now your casting stat in terms of spells/day.

I dunno. I still say Mind Mage (http://www.angelfire.com/pro/demon_1/prc_mind_mage.htm) is the most broken prc ever.

[Dylaer]

A tainted scholar, with Ur-priest, can eventually have the capacity to prepare the ENTIRE cleric spell list. Twice. With save DCs that are nigh unmakeable.

Mind mage pales in comparison.

[Wings of Peace]

A tainted scholar, with Ur-priest, can eventually have the capacity to prepare the ENTIRE cleric spell list. Twice. With save DCs that are nigh unmakeable.

Mind mage pales in comparison.

An optimized Mind Mage can cast metamagic spells for free and refresh his spells on a whim. High DCs hardly matter if you can hit for 1000s anyways.

[veven]

An optimized Mind Mage can cast metamagic spells for free and refresh his spells on a whim. High DCs hardly matter if you can hit for 1000s anyways.

I'll take high save DC's over high damage any day.

Normal damage is easy to avoid and not impossible to be completely immune to.

[Rei_Jin]

Incantatrix from Magic of Faerun?

Mystic Wanderer from the same book (gets you charisma to AC)?

[Wings of Peace]

I'll take high save DC's over high damage any day.

Normal damage is easy to avoid and not impossible to be completely immune to.

Normal damage is a lot harder to avoid than a save dc they might be immune to anyways. Frozen/Searing spells can deal damage even to creatures with the proper immunity where as a creature immune to death magic will always be immune to death magic.

[Divide by Zero]

Incantatrix from Magic of Faerun?

The Player's Guide to Faerun version is more powerful, and also the correct version by RAW (MoF is 3.0).

[Ryu_Bonkosi]

I second (or third if Divide by Zero was also suggesting it) Incantrix. 3 levels are all you need for shenanigans but 4 grants you an extra MM feat.

[Godskook]

Master Specialist is a good class if you're capable of:

Wiz 3/MS 2/Mindbender 1/Ur 2/MT 8/MS +1

That only 'uses' 1 level out of your 3, but it grants you 3 levels of class features, which is fantastic for entering archmage, or even just to pick up greater spell focus. You could keep going in the class, or start picking up a 'late-game' prestige class. Either way, your choice.

[Dylaer]

Normal damage is a lot harder to avoid than a save dc they might be immune to anyways. Frozen/Searing spells can deal damage even to creatures with the proper immunity where as a creature immune to death magic will always be immune to death magic.

Point is, when you need to make a save, you can't, and the Tainted Scholar has got a save-or-lose you aren't immune to. Save-or-die is actually rather meh in a lot of circumstances, because, as said, there are a lot of immunities out there. Simple to bypass though. Disintegrate, Dominate, Destruction, Baleful Polymorph, to name a few, but there are many more.

[mootoall]

Haha, immunity to damage is ridiculously easy to get. Or at least, ways to make damage not matter to you at all. It's much easier to force a save versus, say, daze, which almost no one is immune to, and have them fail it, then proceed to test every single other status effect with your infinite spells per day. There's something there, I promise you.

[Tokuhara]

Haha, immunity to damage is ridiculously easy to get. Or at least, ways to make damage not matter to you at all. It's much easier to force a save versus, say, daze, which almost no one is immune to, and have them fail it, then proceed to test every single other status effect with your infinite spells per day. There's something there, I promise you.

Or you could cast a single spell and drop the moon onto your planet.

[mootoall]

Drop as many moons on the planet as you like, my wizard is immune to damage. Really. More difficult to be immune to daze, blindness, etc. I wonder what Doc Roc has to say about this ... His builds are where I learned the immunity to/not caring about damage trick from.

[Tokuhara]

Drop as many moons on the planet as you like, my wizard is immune to damage. Really. More difficult to be immune to daze, blindness, etc. I wonder what Doc Roc has to say about this ... His builds are where I learned the immunity to/not caring about damage trick from.

Is he immune to the effects of the Vacuum of space? Damage is a moot point when you are in space, without air.

[Godskook]

Is he immune to the effects of the Vacuum of space? Damage is a moot point when you are in space, without air.

"Does not breath" is fairly easy to get too.

[Jude_H]

Fortunately, there's no such thing as vacuum damage.

[Tokuhara]

Ok. Have fun floating aimlessly through space, seeing as how you have no planet to go to.

[Jude_H]

What CR is a planet? If it bumps you into Epic, you might be able to fashion a crude reality, given sufficient time and motivation. :smalltongue:

[Greenish]

Ok. Have fun floating aimlessly through space, seeing as how you have no planet to go to.Make your own plane, or just migrate to one you like.

[Tokuhara]

Make your own plane, or just migrate to one you like.

Wow, the playground is right... Spellcaster vs. Spellcaster is pointless...

[HalfDragonCube]

Wow, the playground is right... Spellcaster vs. Spellcaster is pointless...

The playground is always right.

[Hyfigh]

Yea... Astral Projections duking it out. At least it'd be fun to watch. It's just a video game to them.

[Ryu_Bonkosi]

Fortunately, there's no such thing as vacuum damage.

Suffocation?

Also wouldn't skin that is exposed to space freeze almost instantly?

[Greenish]

Also wouldn't skin that is exposed to space freeze almost instantly?Why would it? Vacuum doesn't conduct heat very well.

[Jude_H]

Also wouldn't skin that is exposed to space freeze almost instantly?
Strangely, not dead skin. :smalltongue:

[Divide by Zero]

Also wouldn't skin that is exposed to space freeze almost instantly?

Nope. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceIsCold)tencharacters