Qaar now has warlock levels...

[Aron Times]

I'm surprised nobody has pointed this out yet. Qaar is seen blasting Blackwing over and over again, implying that this ability is at-will, and he now works for the IFCC, so...

Does this mean that Qaar is now an infernal warlock (to use 4e terms), with a possible prestige class into Hellfire Warlock?

What do you think?

[Zubzub]

He's probably still the old imp sorcerer who decided its a good idea to keep spamming scorching ray.

[hamishspence]

Yes- eldritch blast looks a bit different here:

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0730.html

and doesn't come with a "bzzzap!" noise.

[Demonicbunny]

Even if he's just lvl 10 or something he could, if he was a sorceror (and had a few meta magic feats), easily cast 20-30 ray spells.

Why he would fire reflex save spells against a raven though...

[Dalek-K]

He doesn't really want to hit or kill Blackwing .... That would harm V n the penalty to XP. Though killing blackwing then in a year become V's familiar may be his plan >.>

[Cizak]

He doesn't really want to hit or kill Blackwing .... That would harm V n the penalty to XP. Though killing blackwing then in a year become V's familiar may be his plan >.>

Why would V ever accept Qarr as his familiar?

[BlackestOfMages]

Why would V ever accept Qarr as his familiar?

If V ever turns full evil, and takes the multi-familiar feat AND improved familiar feat, then why not. V knows Quar, and dosen't seem to dislike him too much - and it'd be kinda apropriate.

also, that's a schrching Ray, it's identical to the one cast earlier

[SPoD]

also, that's a schrching Ray, it's identical to the one cast earlier

This, Scorching Ray has been seen before and it looked exactly like this.

What we have here is probably a case of the panel changing between the first and second rays of one casting, and then both rays being shown in the same panel for a second casting. This would make him between a 7th and 11th level sorcerer, well in line with his previously established ability to cast Charm Monster a few times per day.

And that would also make them ranged touch attacks, not Reflex saves.

[ORione]

If V ever turns full evil, and takes the multi-familiar feat AND improved familiar feat, then why not. V knows Quar, and dosen't seem to dislike him too much - and it'd be kinda apropriate.


Those are some pretty big ifs.

[MesiDoomstalker]

And that would also make them ranged touch attacks, not Reflex saves.

Which makes it even worse. High DEX plus size bonus.

[Toofey]

. V knows Quar, and dosen't seem to dislike him too much
Which of the multiple attempts to disintegrate Quar gave you that impression?

[Cizak]

Which of the multiple attempts to disintegrate Quar gave you that impression?

I lol'ed. white text

[Blisstake]

Yes- eldritch blast looks a bit different here:

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0730.html

and doesn't come with a "bzzzap!" noise.

Neither does scorching ray, does it?

[Ancalagon]

AND improved familiar feat, then why not. V knows Quar, and dosen't seem to dislike him too much - and it'd be kinda apropriate.

In all honesty, I do not think the "Improved Familiar" Feat covers an "improved Familiar with ten class levels". PC-class-levels at that!

There is no way the rules allow a familiar as Qarr is. Whatever happens here is not covered by the rules - and it does not have to, as it's the plot (a character betrays another character in the run of the story).

The point is: Vaarsuvius could not get a familiar as that simply by taking a feat that is like two entire leagues below what we are talking here.

[G-Man Graves]

Yeah, seriously, is everyone forgetting that V tried very hard to turn Qaar into a small pile of ash?

[Doxkid]

In all honesty, I do not think the "Improved Familiar" Feat covers an "improved Familiar with ten class levels". PC-class-levels at that!

There is no way the rules allow a familiar as Qarr is. Whatever happens here is not covered by the rules - and it does not have to, as it's the plot (a character betrays another character in the run of the story).

The point is: Vaarsuvius could not get a familiar as that simply by taking a feat that is like two entire leagues below what we are talking here.

Leadership.

Yeah, seriously, is everyone forgetting that V tried very hard to turn Qaar into a small pile of ash?

V almost certainly would not want to associate with Qaar in any way that would not cause the imp's death/destruction; the imp could easily be considered partially to blame for the whole 'Sell your soul' business V put up with. Momma dragon said herself "I waited until you expended all of your high level spell slots.' Which V did attacking Qaar.

Furthermore, the feat would be better spent grabbing another ~good~ spellcaster (as close to V's level as the feat allows, preferably a cleric or wizard with access to the schools V barred), or a similarly powerful being. That is, of course, assuming that feat is being wasted instead of being used to access a prestige class, or some such other thing.

[SPoD]

Which makes it even worse. High DEX plus size bonus.

No, it's not worse at all. Qarr is the same size as Blackwing. Size bonuses cancel out. So Blackwing's touch AC is probably 12 against him, +1 for being Hasted along with Elan and V. An imp with 7-11 class levels would have a very decent chance of hitting AC 13, whereas for a Reflex save, Blackwing would get to use Vaarsuvius' base save bonus AND he has Improved Evasion. So yeah, not a dumb decision by Qarr to go with a touch attack at all.

The fact that he's not hit yet probably says more about what buff spells are active on Blackwing than anything else.

[le Suisse]

he should use magic missile, who can easily beat a lil' raven to pulp without any save.
Aside that, Z is a moron to think than Qarr's really his familiar. And the imp must have role a epic fail in bluff against Blackwing.

[Demonicbunny]

he should use magic missile, who can easily beat a lil' raven to pulp without any save.
Aside that, Z is a moron to think than Qarr's really his familiar. And the imp must have role a epic fail in bluff against Blackwing.

Qarr probably took Charm Person instead.
He seems like an imp with great use for that spell.

[The Giant]

Qarr is not a warlock. Those are Scorching Rays, same as Vaarsuvius used.

Question answered, thread locked.