How to improve a fighter

[Flame of Anor]

What do I do if I have a fighter of mid level and I want him to be more capable than straight FTR20? I'm not looking for extreme optimization. I already know about Warblades.

[Hirax]

I posted this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11146245&postcount=24)the other day, perhaps pieces of it might interest you.

[Hiro Protagonest]

Dungeoncrasher fighter ACF, in Dungoenscape. For if you're going charger. Take the good stuff, like power attack, improved bull rush, shock trooper, leap attack, and combat brute. Also, if you can, be a goliath and take knockback.

Fighters can also be optimized trippers. Combat expertise and improved trip (or a two level wolf totem barbarian dip for improved trip if you don't have the intelligence), combat reflexes, hold the line (for those pesky chargers), and stand still.

[sonofzeal]

"Fighter" tells us nothing. Tank? Power Attacker? Tripper? Archer? Mounted Combat specialist? Weapon Specialist? "Fighter" is nothing in and of itself. You've got to give us your focus within that, where you've spent your feats.

Also - what books are allowed?

[Flame of Anor]

I posted this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11146245&postcount=24)the other day, perhaps pieces of it might interest you.

Awesome, thanks!


"Fighter" tells us nothing. Tank? Power Attacker? Tripper? Archer? Mounted Combat specialist? Weapon Specialist? "Fighter" is nothing in and of itself. You've got to give us your focus within that, where you've spent your feats.

Also - what books are allowed?

Power attacker, and assume all official material is allowed.

[Greenish]

Power attacker, and assume all official material is allowed.Barbarian dip is pretty common.

If you want straight-classed PA fighter, the basics are PA, Imp. Bull Rush (prerequisite), Shock Trooper and Leap Attack or mounted combat line.

Still, Power Attack alone isn't much of a fighting style. It could well be Charger, Tripper, King of Pong or Mountie.

[riddles]

Break the mould - take shield feats - shield slam, shield charge, shield ward and agile shield fighter.

Give you tripping, chances to daze, an extra attack. A human fighter can do all of this by level 4. Wolf totem barbarian 2 will get you rage (which increases the dc of your daze while raging and gives you +4 to trip)

After that...it's up to you.

[Greenish]

Wolf totem barbarian 2 will get you rage (which increases the dc of your daze while raging and gives you +4 to trip)Most barbarian variants give Rage. Maybe you mean Improved Trip? :smalltongue:

[riddles]

*sigh* fine. +4 to trip from improved trip plus whatever bonuses you get in a rage. Plus the free attrack if you do trip.