Dex to Grapple

[Major]

Is there a way to make grapple dex based? I'm playing a succubus and my points to move around are...

11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 17

(rolled)

I know based on build idea to make Charisma ridiculous so the 17 is going to be charisma.

However, the next problem is what to do with the rest? I need strength for grapple, but that's about it. However, I want the dex for AC and ranged weapons. Is there anyway to add dex to grapple?

Especially since I know I'm going to need good con due to the very few hit die I'll have... (six hit die at level 12)

[ClothedInVelvet]

If you're worried about grapple, it'd be more worthwhile to get an item to help you out there. A potion of enlarge person would give you +4 and that way you still have the dex when you need it. You lose a bit of Dex, but gain strength with that one, but there are things like spiked armor that help grapple.

[Major]

Well, I don't want to enlarge person mainly because a giant succubus kiss while amusing seems weird. So I was hoping to get a way to do my kiss on an unwilling target with grapple.

Right now the problem is figuring out how to position those stats. I need my highest as charisma, and the next three need either dex, str, or con.

Con because with 6 hit die I'll suck with health without con.
Dex because AC, ranged, etc.
Str because grapple.

Since all I need strength for is grapple I was hoping to change that stat.

[PollyOliver]

Does your DM allow homebrew?

[Major]

Depends on the homebrew. I could ask about a homebrew feat that allows it.

Edit: Sadly he isn't letting me get a feat to switch Grapple to str. He says 'you don't need that.'

[Malimar]

The only thing a ctrl-F for "grapple" turns up on X Stat To Y Bonus (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125732) is the Mantle of Freedom feat from Dungeon #104, which gives Cha to Grapple and Escape Artist.

[PollyOliver]

Depends on the homebrew. I could ask about a homebrew feat that allows it.

It's not actually a feat (though you could ask if your DM could make it one; I'd probably let that fly). It's a detour through a homebrew class fix for the monk. But depending on your starting level, it may not be possible for you because of your RHD and LA.

[Ravens_cry]

If your allowed Pathfinder feats, there is a feat (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/agile-maneuvers-combat) that does just this. Well, in a Pathfinder way, but converting it is as simple as saying "I get dexterity instead of strength to combat manoeuvres"

[Major]

The only thing a ctrl-F for "grapple" turns up on X Stat To Y Bonus (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125732) is the Mantle of Freedom feat from Dungeon #104, which gives Cha to Grapple and Escape Artist.

Dude...that's even better.

[King Atticus]

If you're worried about grapple, it'd be more worthwhile to get an item to help you out there. A potion of enlarge person would give you +4 and that way you still have the dex when you need it. You lose a bit of Dex, but gain strength with that one, but there are things like spiked armor that help grapple.

Pretty sure that wouldn't work anyway.


Enlarge Person
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Target: One humanoid creature



Succubus
Size/Type: Medium Outsider (Chaotic, Extraplanar, Evil)

At least that's my understanding.

[Major]

Another reason the potion doesn't work.

[Cog]

Enlarge Person wouldn't do an Outsider much good, as noted; you'd need Expansion (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/expansion.htm) instead. for boosting Grapple checks without Dex, there's a couple of Totemist melds that would do it (Girallon Arms and Kraken Mantle), plus the psychic power Grip of Iron (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/gripofIron.htm). Most of those will probably get you more benefit than merely switching your grapple stat in the long run.