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Tibbaerrohwen
2011-07-05, 03:38 PM
I'm very new to psionics and psionic abilities. I have to ask:

1) Can a character create new psionic abilities like a character can create new spells?

2) Can existing spells be made into psionic abilities with relative ease?

Thanks.

Psyren
2011-07-05, 03:41 PM
I'm very new to psionics and psionic abilities. I have to ask:

1) Can a character create new psionic abilities like a character can create new spells?

2) Can existing spells be made into psionic abilities with relative ease?

Thanks.

Yes to both. (Both require DM intervention though, unless the spell in question already has a psionic equivalent you can use.)

Also, read this. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10635999)

Flickerdart
2011-07-05, 03:53 PM
There is a (obscenely powerful) variant of Erudite, the Spell to Power Erudite, which gives guidelines for converting spells into powers. The Erudite itself can be found at the end of Complete Psionic, and the variant is here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20070629a) (again, at the bottom).

Yora
2011-07-05, 03:56 PM
One Eberron book had a list of many spells which pretty much said "These spells can also be turned into powers."
If the spell becomes more powerful at higher levels in other aspects than longer duration, you may have to add augmentation options, but other spells can just be used as powers by adding a power point cost, that is always the same for all spells of the same level.

Prime32
2011-07-05, 03:59 PM
If the spell becomes more powerful at higher levels in other aspects than longer duration, you may have to add augmentation options, but other spells can just be used as powers by adding a power point cost, that is always the same for all spells of the same level.This.

A power's pp cost is equal to your ML when you can first access it. (eg. an lv3 power costs 5pp)

If the spell is part of a chain then the entire chain should become a single power, with augments which power it up to the next step. (price them so that the pp cost after augmenting would be equivalent to a spell of the new level)
For instance, a psionic summon monster would duplicate summon monster I, with the following augments:

Summon 1d3 monsters: +2pp
Summon 1d4+1 monsters: +4pp
Summon monsters from the SM II list: +2pp
Summon monsters from the SM III list: +4pp
Summon monsters from the SM IV list: +6pp
Summon monsters from the SM V list: +8pp
Summon monsters from the SM VI list: +10pp
Summon monsters from the SM VII list: +12pp
Summon monsters from the SM VIII list: +14pp
Summon monsters from the SM IX list: +16pp


If the spell has any effects based on caster level other than duration, calculate them from their minimum CL (eg. an lv7 1d6/CL power would cost 13pp, and thus would deal 13d6 damage), then add an augment with each +1pp being equivalent to +1 CL for the spell version (+1d6 damage in this case). Note that if the power is accessible at multiple levels (eg. it's on the psion and psychic warrior lists) you'll need to adjust the start damage for each class.

If the spell had a save DC, the DC should also increase by +1 per 2pp spent on augments. (so that an lv1 power augmented to the cost of an lv7 power has the same DC as an lv7 power)

Lateral
2011-07-05, 03:59 PM
Also, read this. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10635999)

Peregrine's post, obviously, not the parts dealing with PF.

Psyren
2011-07-05, 04:01 PM
One Eberron book had a list of many spells which pretty much said "These spells can also be turned into powers."

That would be Secrets of Sarlona.


There is a (obscenely powerful) variant of Erudite, the Spell to Power Erudite, which gives guidelines for converting spells into powers. The Erudite itself can be found at the end of Complete Psionic, and the variant is here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20070629a) (again, at the bottom).

The base Erudite is also online. (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20060406b&page=1)

Big Fau
2011-07-05, 04:05 PM
Page 64 of the XPH has rules on this. Those rules are about as balanced as StP Erudite too (AKA: Not very).


At least they take up powers known, unlike the Erudite...