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Beelzebub1111
2011-07-05, 04:39 PM
How much would a statue of a medium sized creature weigh if it was made out of adamantine? what about a large creature? Huge?

ericgrau
2011-07-05, 04:42 PM
Adamantine weighs the same as steel which is about 7.7 times as heavy as flesh.

Kansaschaser
2011-07-05, 04:51 PM
You need to also take into account that most statues are placed upon a stand of some kind. The stand can be made of the same material or sometimes stone.

Iron weighs 485 pounds per cubic foot. Marble weighs 160 pounds per cubic foot. Granite weighs 168 pounds per cubic foot. EDIT: Steel weighs 490 pounds per cubic foot. Remember, there are 125 cubic feet in one five foot cube.

If you have a Medium Statue, such as a Human(average of about 1,120 pounds), on top of a marble stand that is 5ft. by 5ft. by 2.5ft (tall), then the entire statue could weigh upwards of 11,120 pounds. This is if the statue is solid metal. A lot of statues are hollow like a Chocolate Easter Bunny. If that's the case, the metal part of the statue could weigh up to 80% less than normal (or as low as 224 pounds).

Anxe
2011-07-05, 04:55 PM
Adamantine is supposed to weigh just as much as other metals in D&D. An Iron Golem is Large size and weighs about 5,000 pounds, so a large sized Iron Golem should also weigh 5,000 pounds.

For different sizes we can use math or the Enlarge Person spell to make conclusions. Either way we find out that for every size increase the weight increases by roughly 8 times.

So...

Fine .1525878
Diminutive 1.2207031
Tiny 9.765625
Small 78.125
Medium 625
Large 5,000
Huge 40,000
Gargantuan 320,000
Colossal 2,560,000

All weights are in pounds (lb) and for a creature that is roughly the same proportions as a Iron Golem.

EDIT: My table is for solid creatures that are actually made out of metal.

RndmNumGen
2011-07-05, 04:57 PM
You need to also take into account that most statues are placed upon a stand of some kind. The stand can be made of the same material or sometimes stone.

Iron weighs 485 pounds per cubic foot. Marble weighs 160 pounds per cubic foot. Granite weighs 168 pounds per cubic foot. EDIT: Steel weighs 490 pounds per cubic foot. Remember, there are 125 cubic feet in one five foot cube.

If you have a Medium Statue, such as a Human(average of about 1,120 pounds), on top of a marble stand that is 5ft. by 5ft. by 2.5ft (tall), then the entire statue could weigh upwards of 11,120 pounds. This is if the statue is solid metal. A lot of statues are hollow like a Chocolate Easter Bunny. If that's the case, the metal part of the statue could weigh up to 80% less than normal (or as low as 224 pounds).

5 ft seems like an extremely wide statue base. I guess it kind of makes sense in D&D because that is the base measurement of distance, but even still...

ericgrau
2011-07-05, 04:58 PM
Ya 2.5'x2.5' is more likely. Also fits through doorways, in the likely event the statue wasn't crafted on-site.


A lot of statues are hollow like a Chocolate Easter Bunny. If that's the case, the metal part of the statue could weigh up to 80% less than normal (or as low as 224 pounds).

True finding a solid adamantine statue worth over 100,000 gp (300,000 gp?) is a bit dubious. A thin adamantine cover is more likely.

Marnath
2011-07-05, 05:36 PM
Ya 2.5'x2.5' is more likely. Also fits through doorways, in the likely event the statue wasn't crafted on-site.



True finding a solid adamantine statue worth over 100,000 gp (300,000 gp?) is a bit dubious. A thin adamantine cover is more likely.

I suppose a pure, solid adamantine statue is feasible as long as you assume some flagrant wish abuse/waste by a high level caster with nothing better to do than waste xp on decorating? That's how you make an adamantine golem after all, wish it from iron to adamantine.

Gavinfoxx
2011-07-05, 06:20 PM
So you do realize it's probably worth several hundreds of thousand of GP at least? maybe several million?

And god help you if the Wizard prepared Fabricate.

Marnath
2011-07-05, 06:22 PM
So you do realize it's probably worth several hundreds of thousand of GP at least? maybe several million?


Umm... yes? O.o



True finding a solid adamantine statue worth over 100,000 gp (300,000 gp?) is a bit dubious. A thin adamantine cover is more likely.

NNescio
2011-07-05, 06:30 PM
Umm... yes? O.o

I think he was talking about the "Create a nonmagical item of up to 25,000 gp in value" 'limitation' in Wish. PaO has an even more restrictive limitation, and duplicating it or some similar effect is also near the upper limit of the Wish spell (a 8th level Sorc/Wiz spell).

That said, the construction rules for Adamantine golems explicitly mention that they are made from iron polymorphed into admamantine via a Wish spell, so you're still right.

excruciarch
2011-07-05, 06:34 PM
So you do realize it's probably worth several hundreds of thousand of GP at least? maybe several million?

If the statue weights 1600 pounds (~700kg) approx. cost will be 480k of GP. =)
(since adamantine attribute adds 15k GP to the cost of a 50pd FP) :D

begooler
2011-07-06, 12:26 AM
I would actually guess that an adamantine statue would be more likely to weigh less than an [other metal] statue. Because the metal is so expensive, it would be more likely to be crafted so that it was hollow, and the 'shell' might be more likely to be thinner than that of another hollow statue.

Most likely though, you would have a thin plating of adamantine on another metal.

MeeposFire
2011-07-06, 12:31 AM
It may also be thinner since the metal is stronger so it does not need to be as thick to be as sturdy as steel.

ericgrau
2011-07-06, 01:28 AM
That doesn't really help with flexibility though. Even if it won't tear the thinner adamantine would ding and bend like crazy. More likely they'd plate another material with adamantine.

Beelzebub1111
2011-07-06, 04:26 AM
Okay...so that would just be inconvenient...unless we had a War Hulk....maybe a mithril statue would be better? 15 hardness is still pretty beastly.