AmberVael
2011-07-11, 06:58 PM
Soooo...
I was just making a high level sorcerer character, and because I dearly love my versatility, I was checking out the various Shadow line of spells.
When I was looking at Shadow Conjuration (specifically Greater Shadow Conjuration), it struck me that the line:
Shadow objects or substances have normal effects except against those who disbelieve them.
Could probably be put to some very interesting uses, especially given this next fact-
Greater Shadow Conjuration can of course, be used to mimic Wall of Iron (as it is a 5th level Conjuration (Creation) spell). Wall of Iron, being an Instantaneous Conjuration (Creation) spell, is "is merely assembled through magic. It lasts indefinitely and does not depend on magic for its existence."
Now, it may be that as Greater Shadow Conjuration only mimics the spell, and is not in fact Conjuration (Creation), the above line doesn't necessarily apply... but you'd still be making quasi-real iron with an unlimited duration that only exists for people who believe in it.
This strikes me as having some particularly fascinating uses. You might, for example, create a secret "door" out of it. You know it's not a real wall, no one else does, so you scamper through it and they smash their heads into it.
Or, if you want to be more evil and devious, create a bridge from it. You purposefully fail your save, but other people might start to realize something is off, try and see the truth, and then- oh crap, they're on a nonexistent bridge and they fall into spikes below.
I'm sure these are just the most obvious uses, and that there is a lot more you could do with this (or with Wall of Stone, which would work similarly...)
Have I made any false assumptions here? If not, what uses can you think to put this to?
I was just making a high level sorcerer character, and because I dearly love my versatility, I was checking out the various Shadow line of spells.
When I was looking at Shadow Conjuration (specifically Greater Shadow Conjuration), it struck me that the line:
Shadow objects or substances have normal effects except against those who disbelieve them.
Could probably be put to some very interesting uses, especially given this next fact-
Greater Shadow Conjuration can of course, be used to mimic Wall of Iron (as it is a 5th level Conjuration (Creation) spell). Wall of Iron, being an Instantaneous Conjuration (Creation) spell, is "is merely assembled through magic. It lasts indefinitely and does not depend on magic for its existence."
Now, it may be that as Greater Shadow Conjuration only mimics the spell, and is not in fact Conjuration (Creation), the above line doesn't necessarily apply... but you'd still be making quasi-real iron with an unlimited duration that only exists for people who believe in it.
This strikes me as having some particularly fascinating uses. You might, for example, create a secret "door" out of it. You know it's not a real wall, no one else does, so you scamper through it and they smash their heads into it.
Or, if you want to be more evil and devious, create a bridge from it. You purposefully fail your save, but other people might start to realize something is off, try and see the truth, and then- oh crap, they're on a nonexistent bridge and they fall into spikes below.
I'm sure these are just the most obvious uses, and that there is a lot more you could do with this (or with Wall of Stone, which would work similarly...)
Have I made any false assumptions here? If not, what uses can you think to put this to?