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Rosleaw
2011-07-11, 08:42 PM
I'm building a daggerspell master and i want something else insted of scribing scroll for the wizards levels. The charcter concept is a human spellthief, with good stealth that takes some wizard levels and then use his magic in combination with his magic.

Dusk Eclipse
2011-07-11, 08:45 PM
There is a variant that let's you trade Scribe Scroll and bonus feats for fighter bonus feats (it is in UA and the SRD)

Kojiro
2011-07-11, 08:46 PM
There's a variant Wizard thing that trades Scribe Spell and the Wizard bonus feats for Fighter bonus feats at the first level and whenever you'd normally get the bonuses as a Wizard. Improved Initiative, or anything that would benefit the thief/dagger part of your spellthief/daggerspell, is thus a good option.

TheNameIsDumas
2011-07-11, 08:51 PM
What can i put in a wizard

A dagger.

:smallcool:

erikun
2011-07-11, 08:54 PM
If you are going wizard-specialist, there are a number of variants (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm) that give up familiars or bonus feats (or even bonus spell slots) in exchange for abilities. Some are useful, others are not (especially if you are only taking one level).

Flickerdart
2011-07-11, 08:57 PM
If you are going wizard-specialist, there are a number of variants (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm) that give up familiars or bonus feats (or even bonus spell slots) in exchange for abilities. Some are useful, others are not (especially if you are only taking one level).
Scribe Scroll is not one of the feats given up for those features, only the feats gained at 5th level and every 5 levels thereafter.

Combat Wizard appears to be the only way to get rid of Scribe Scroll.

erikun
2011-07-11, 09:01 PM
Enhanced Summoning Conjurer does, although you are right. Looking through them again, most don't even get anything until 5th level. Shadow Shaper Illusionist is the only other one that has anything practical at 1st level, assuming you wanted to take ranks in Hide.

Rosleaw
2011-07-11, 09:16 PM
Thanks i'll go with the fighter moves so i can use some good stuffs for the rogue part of my dagerspell master

BenInHB
2011-07-12, 12:06 AM
In real play i love scribe scroll. It lets you keep a copy of the really situational spells on hand without having to fill up you daily slot with things you only use sporadically.

Wizards are prepared casters and unlike the other prepared casters (Cleric and Druid) they can't spontaneously convert their spells into something else (Cure Wounds, Summon Natures Ally) so picking the right spells for your daily slots is a lot less forgiving for them.

Scribe Scroll and some down time can be very powerful.