Looking for an AoE spell with a lot of requirements

[Matamane]

I need a third level or lower AoE spell that allows a reflex saving throw, but does not allow Spell Resistance. Anybody have some gems?

[Eloel]

Web. Grease.

On a note that will actually probably help: Wings of Flurry is also commonly used for Spellwarp Sniper :smallwink: (though it's L4 iirc. I'll keep checking)

[Matamane]

I'm hoping for something better than Rockburst

[Divide by Zero]

Wings of Flurry also allows SR, so that's out.

Hail of Stone (SC) is a first-level AoE with no save at all, not sure if that works.

[Matamane]

Only Reflex Save and no SR.

[Thurbane]

Great Thunderclap (SC): 3rd level Sor/Wiz [Evocation], 20 ft radius, no SR, and calls for a Reflex save (as well as Will and Fort on top). One of the few offensive Evocations with SR: No.

[Ernir]

Entangle?

It might help to know what you're going to do with this...

[Necroticplague]

I think he is trying to find good candidates for Explosive Spell. If this is the case, any AOE with Born of Three Thunders and no sr works works.

[dextercorvia]

I think he is trying to find good candidates for Explosive Spell. If this is the case, any AOE with Born of Three Thunders and no sr works works.

Being dazed the next round kind of sucks though. And, it requires that the original spell have a certain energy type.

[dextercorvia]

Haboob from Sandstorm seems to have everything you are looking for.

[GoodbyeSoberDay]

Being dazed the next round kind of sucks though. And, it requires that the original spell have a certain energy type.Quick recovery + will save craziness works.

[ericgrau]

If you can put up with or get another way around SR and don't mind playing a druid then spike growth (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/spikeGrowth.htm) has a pretty huge area.

[Flame of Anor]

Could someone tell me what AoE means?

[Divide by Zero]

Could someone tell me what AoE means?

Area of Effect. Any spell that affects an area rather than a specific target.

[Flame of Anor]

Area of Effect. Any spell that affects an area rather than a specific target.

Aha! Thanks! I was all, "Age of Empires? Attack of...Entertunity?"

[Necroticplague]

=.And, it requires that the original spell have a certain energy type.

Snowcasting + Flash Frost + Energy Substitution (Sonic). This qualifies any area spell for Born of Three Thunders (and by extension, Explosive Spell).

[Feytalist]

There was a third level conjuration spell that emulated fireball but with acid damage that had SR: No in 3.0 if I recall. I can't seem to remember the name now, though. It might have been a cone emanation spell though. Acid breath? Caustic sphere? Something like that.

[olentu]

There was a third level conjuration spell that emulated fireball but with acid damage that had SR: No in 3.0 if I recall. I can't seem to remember the name now, though. It might have been a cone emanation spell though. Acid breath? Caustic sphere? Something like that.

Hmm perhaps vitriolic sphere.

[Runestar]

According to this list, none exist.

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19870226/Spellwarp_Sniper_List_of_Handy_Spells

[Kefkafreak]

Doom Scarabs, cast as a Duskblade? No save, no SR.

[dextercorvia]

Snowcasting + Flash Frost + Energy Substitution (Sonic). This qualifies any area spell for Born of Three Thunders (and by extension, Explosive Spell).

That is also inconvenient (5 feats), unless you want this to be the only thing your character is built for.

[NNescio]

There was a third level conjuration spell that emulated fireball but with acid damage that had SR: No in 3.0 if I recall. I can't seem to remember the name now, though. It might have been a cone emanation spell though. Acid breath? Caustic sphere? Something like that.

Acid Breath, SpC Pg 7, 15 ft cone-shaped acid burst, 3rd-level Sorc/Wiz spell.

You basically eat fire ants and then breathe on your enemies. Said fire ants can even be alive.

It's SR: Yes though. Oddly, it's an instantaneous Conjuration(Creation) spell as well.

It's also listed on Treantmonk's Guide to Conjuration, which mentions it as the Conjurer's (inferior) answer to Fireball.

[Zolthux]

You could use the Black Tentacles + Cloudkill combo.

Both spells are conjuration, meaning that they ignore SR.

Also, grappling enemies makes them more susceptible to failing a fireball

[Matamane]

Any that deal damage?

[dextercorvia]

Any that deal damage?

Did you check out Haboob?

[Matamane]

Is more of a secondary effect

[Feytalist]

Acid Breath, SpC Pg 7, 15 ft cone-shaped acid burst, 3rd-level Sorc/Wiz spell.

You basically eat fire ants and then breathe on your enemies. Said fire ants can even be alive.

It's SR: Yes though. Oddly, it's an instantaneous Conjuration(Creation) spell as well.

It's also listed on Treantmonk's Guide to Conjuration, which mentions it as the Conjurer's (inferior) answer to Fireball.

Huh, strange. Must've misremembered then.

Vitriolic sphere is 4th level though. Oh well, keep looking, I'm sure there are one or two.

[ericgrau]

http://www.imarvintpa.com/dndlive/FindSpell.php

briar web (SpC)
entangle
local tremor (RotDrg)
rockburst (ShS)
sticky floor (RotDrg)

Is all of them it could find that match the OP's requirements specifically. FWIW according to the search engine hail of stone isn't reflex and haboob isn't area.

[dextercorvia]

FWIW according to the search engine hail of stone isn't reflex and haboob isn't area.

Huh. I just checked, and this is correct. It is an Effect spell that affects an area, without having an Area of Effect.