Wight as Familiar

[Cornelius Grim]

Could I even do this? With improved familiar, or using the third-party book, "Book of Familiars", my DM says I can get a wight as a familiar. My character is focusing on negative-levels, and this seemed fitting. Is anything wrong with my choice? Or does anyone have any suggestions of undead familiars that would help animation of undead or negative levels? Any help is accepted, but nothing to Over-Powered. :smallsmile:

[Shadowknight12]

So you want to have a person as your familiar? That's adorable!

Sorry, can't help you there. If the DM adds it to your list of allowed familiars, it's game. If it's not on the list, you can't choose it as a familiar.

[Daverin]

Sounds awesome enough for a familiar, and the DM said yes. Done. It's allowed.

If you were looking for advice on the wight, though, you may need better minds than my own.

[Thurbane]

Wow...I hope your DM realizes the implacations of a Wight's create spawn ability, and has planned for you to be the defacto leader of a wight army. They don't call it a Wightocalypse for nothing.

[mabriss lethe]

Don't think there's a way to make a wight a familiar, but I think there's a way to get one as a cohort using the Undead Leadership feat.

[Cornelius Grim]

So you want to have a person as your familiar? That's adorable!

Sorry, can't help you there. If the DM adds it to your list of allowed familiars, it's game. If it's not on the list, you can't choose it as a familiar.

Lol, I can't tell if you're using sarcasm or not, but lol. DM says it's good. It goes along with a backstory. Me and the group Bard were going to (jokingly of course) start a super hero team and the wights could be our sidekicks!

Also, I'm pretty sure the DM realizes the danger of giving me a wight when he said yes. I said I'd be reasonable with the amount of wights I had. I'll probably cross the line at one point, but I'll try. I'll just have a medium sized death squad.


Sounds awesome enough for a familiar, and the DM said yes. Done. It's allowed.

If you were looking for advice on the wight, though, you may need better minds than my own.

The simplicity of this post pleases me. I'm sure your advice would be fine. I don't need any though. :smallsmile:

That's pretty much all I wanted was to know it was reasonable. Thanks guys, but... One more question....

Anyone got any ideas for a name for the little guy?

[Shadowknight12]

Lol, I can't tell if you're using sarcasm or not, but lol. DM says it's good. It goes along with a backstory. Me and the group Bard were going to (jokingly of course) start a super hero team and the wights could be our sidekicks!

Also, I'm pretty sure the DM realizes the danger of giving me a wight when he said yes. I said I'd be reasonable with the amount of wights I had. I'll probably cross the line at one point, but I'll try. I'll just have a medium sized death squad.

No, no, I'm serious, it's amazingly cute. I played a wight once. I find it hilarious to imagine that I could have totally played the wizard's familiar, too.

Wights aren't tough, remember. They, by virtue of being undead, are vulnerable to a lot of things. They're also rather fragile, especially at later levels.

[mucco]

Eddie! (can you tell I'm a Maiden fan)

Besides, a wight is a really really strong familiar. May I suggest imposing that your familiar's spawn can not create more spawn, if you're that worried about it? It really slows down the wightapocalypse rate.

[Cornelius Grim]

No, no, I'm serious, it's amazingly cute. I played a wight once. I find it hilarious to imagine that I could have totally played the wizard's familiar, too.

Wights aren't tough, remember. They, by virtue of being undead, are vulnerable to a lot of things. They're also rather fragile, especially at later levels.
I'll make sure my wight is safe, don't worry. And that's cool you played a wight! I was gonna do that once, lol. How was it? I'm playing a Mystic Theurge (I know, many people say it's bad) so this is a way to make sure I have a way to stay with the party in terms of power. Plus, wights are just plain awesome. I'm planning on treating the wights like my kids or like cats/dogs in game, lol. Also, thanks for the advice on taking care of him. Should I name him Fluffers? This is a joke. :smalltongue:


Eddie! (can you tell I'm a Maiden fan)


Besides, a wight is a really really strong familiar. May I suggest imposing that your familiar's spawn can not create more spawn, if you're that worried about it? It really slows down the wightapocalypse rate.
That's not a bad idea. I don't think he's too worried about it, but I'll suggest it. I think part of the reason my DM was okay with this was he wanted someone to make sure the rowdy players in our group stay in check. It won't be a problem... :smallamused: But I will suggest this. Thanks for the idea! I'll keep my wightocalypse rate in check. Thank you! :smallsmile:

[Xanmyral]

Hum... A Wight familiar... This is epic. I approve.
Tips I can think of:
Avoid holy places.
Stock up on inflict spells to heal him/her/it.
Do not touch him/her/it.
Trick people into shaking his/her/it's hand.
If your DM is nice enough, perhaps look at these (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/monster-feats/civilized-ghoulishness) few (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/monster-feats/warren-digger) feat (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/monster-feats/brain-eater) choices for your wight. I don't know if you are doing 3.5 or pathfinder, so since these are Pathfinder feats they might help you, or might not.
Have it attack bleeding out enemies to turn them.
Talk to DM about said turning ability before hand, so he/she is okay with it, and if he/she wants to do something about it.
Try to keep him/her/it incognito, as the local paladin might take offense.

[Shadowknight12]

I'll make sure my wight is safe, don't worry. And that's cool you played a wight! I was gonna do that once, lol. How was it? I'm playing a Mystic Theurge (I know, many people say it's bad) so this is a way to make sure I have a way to stay with the party in terms of power. Plus, wights are just plain awesome. I'm planning on treating the wights like my kids or like cats/dogs in game, lol. Also, thanks for the advice on taking care of him. Should I name him Fluffers? This is a joke. :smalltongue:

It was pretty cool, actually. Positive energy was a pain, but Libris Mortis was my bestest friend. You totally should take care of him, he's better than an actual animal! Call him Falafel and play dress up with him! He'll love you forever! Carrying on with the joke! :smallbiggrin:

I had a lot of fun playing a wight, it was kind of neat to build a TWF specialist that level-drained the ever-loving life out of everything. I also played up the revenant aspect, a damned soul seeking vengeance and all that. It was very fun. He survived the campaign and everything!

Also, I learnt this the hard way: Gentle Repose is a VERY advisable preparation before bedtime activities.

[Coidzor]

So, the Wight has 2 feats by default, Alertness and Blind-Fight, I'd recommend getting those changed out if possible, but there's only a few feats that you can put in there, since it's undead and won't gain any more HD as a familiar to you.

Although, you could get a feat that lets it raise the DC on its energy drain I believe...


So you want to have a person as your familiar? That's adorable!

Muckdwellers from, I believe, Serpent Kingdoms are already technically sapient (I think their typical int is around 6-8ish), and they're a valid type of improved familiar for LE/LN types. :smalleek: ...So a muckdweller wizard can have a muckdweller familiar...

[Shadowknight12]

Muckdwellers from, I believe, Serpent Kingdoms are already technically sapient (I think their typical int is around 6-8ish), and they're a valid type of improved familiar for LE/LN types. :smalleek: ...So a muckdweller wizard can have a muckdweller familiar...

Wizard A: "I have a raven as a familiar, and you?"
Wizard B: "An entire village of muckdweller wizards. Sure, they're technically all each other's familiars, but I can trace all of them back to mine."
Wizard A: "... *backs away slowly*"

[Fouredged Sword]

And the psion with a swarm of flying psicrystals all with psicrystals laughs at you for just now catching up with him.

[Cornelius Grim]

Cool, I'm glad everyone thinks this is good! Everyone said yes, so, hooray. Thanks everyone, for the great ideas! Should I have his spawn take class levels? I could form my own group of adventurers... And take over the world. Mwahahaha.... Anyway, suggestions for class levels for the wights? :smallamused:

[enderlord99]

Wizard A: "I have a raven as a familiar, and you?"
Wizard B: "An entire village of muckdweller wizards. Sure, they're technically all each other's familiars, but I can trace all of them back to mine."
Wizard A: "... *backs away slowly*"

Won't work by rules (familiars can't gain exp. directly, and therefore can't gain class levels), but otherwise awesomesauce.

In other words, you win an internet.

[enderlord99]

Cool, I'm glad everyone thinks this is good! Everyone said yes, so, hooray. Thanks everyone, for the great ideas! Should I have his spawn take class levels? I could form my own group of adventurers... And take over the world. Mwahahaha.... Anyway, suggestions for class levels for the wights? :smallamused:

see my other post, except for the part about winning an internet.

[Cornelius Grim]

see my other post, except for the part about winning an internet.

Read my post again. His spawn, meaning my famiar's spawn. They aren't familiars, they're a familiar's undead spawn. They can gain class levels.

[Graha013]

Could I even do this? With improved familiar, or using the third-party book, "Book of Familiars", my DM says I can get a wight as a familiar. My character is focusing on negative-levels, and this seemed fitting. Is anything wrong with my choice? Or does anyone have any suggestions of undead familiars that would help animation of undead or negative levels? Any help is accepted, but nothing to Over-Powered. :smallsmile:

I'm actually in a similar boat, only I'm looking for rules in allowing an undead familiar for a class I am building/toying with.

I have taken the easier way out and modified the feat Stitched Undead Familiar from Libris Mortis. It irons out what differences a normal familiar would have while adding the Undead type. I took out the stuff about it having to literally be a product of Pet Semetary with a stitched up Fido - I more imagined them actually being simply undead versions of normal familiars (i.e. a raven skeleton).

I know thats not quite the answer you are looking for, but it's a feat that starts a basis for your idea.... good luck!

[enderlord99]

Read my post again. His spawn, meaning my famiar's spawn. They aren't familiars, they're a familiar's undead spawn. They can gain class levels.

Wow. Nice loophole.

[Glimbur]

Or does anyone have any suggestions of undead familiars that would help animation of undead or negative levels? Any help is accepted, but nothing to Over-Powered. :smallsmile:

A slay mate is terribly helpful for being a necromancer, as they make metamagic on necromancy spells easier. I don't know if you can get one as a familiar or if you have to hunt one down, but either way you can have an undead child in your backpack. And that's... well, it's certainly something.

Edit: I think slaymates are in Libris Mortis? Not sure.

[Grytorm]

You should call yourself lord Ted and use the spawn as mooks who fight with your tougher undead monster who you make grow (only send one monster at a time). And pick a fight with a bunch of color coded teenage rangers who ride around in humongous mecha.

[Cornelius Grim]

You should call yourself lord Ted and use the spawn as mooks who fight with your tougher undead monster who you make grow (only send one monster at a time). And pick a fight with a bunch of color coded teenage rangers who ride around in humongous mecha.

Lol.

Glimbur, a dead Child in my backpack may not be a good idea, lol. I might get a slaymate though, thanks anyway. :smallsmile:

Pokemon-Freak, I'm full of loopholes. :smalltongue:

And Graha, thank you for the good luck and good luck to you too.

Sorry, I didn't want to quote a bunch, so I just used name. Sorry about my laziness.

[Shadowknight12]

Won't work by rules (familiars can't gain exp. directly, and therefore can't gain class levels), but otherwise awesomesauce.

In other words, you win an internet.

Woot! That's a first!

[Coidzor]

A slay mate is terribly helpful for being a necromancer, as they make metamagic on necromancy spells easier. I don't know if you can get one as a familiar or if you have to hunt one down, but either way you can have an undead child in your backpack. And that's... well, it's certainly something.

Edit: I think slaymates are in Libris Mortis? Not sure.

I believe so. I remember something about a slaymate that was made out of a corpse with a permanent shrink item spell cast on it before making it into a slaymate that was then in the vastly reduced form put inside of an amulet circulating this board about a year or so back, actually.

[Cornelius Grim]

I believe so. I remember something about a slaymate that was made out of a corpse with a permanent shrink item spell cast on it before making it into a slaymate that was then in the vastly reduced form put inside of an amulet circulating this board about a year or so back, actually.

That's awesome! I need to do this. Except I won't put it in an amulet. I want a tiny undead child. :smallbiggrin:

[HunterOfJello]

If your familiar is summoned like normal familiars are, then creating tons of wights won't be a problem.

[Cornelius Grim]

If your familiar is summoned like normal familiars are, then creating tons of wights won't be a problem.

Yup, I will be Chief Commander of Wights. I need a cool title like that anyway. My familiar can be the Lieutenant. Could you guys help me think of a name for my new wight buddy? Preferably something original, not "Wighty" or anything like that.

DM was fine with me being able to create wight spawn, as long as I was reasonable with the amount of wights that I had at a time. I could replenish my supply every few encounters. So, this character will be fun. :smallamused:

[Thurbane]

Barry (Wight)? :smallbiggrin:

[Cornelius Grim]

Barry (Wight)? :smallbiggrin:

Lol, I like it, but it lacks the punch I'm looking for. Any other ideas? More importantly, what should his super hero name be? Yes, he's a superhero.

[Xanmyral]

Clark Lich, a normal man by day, a superhero by night. When he dons his uniform, he becomes... WARREN MAN! With the superpower of poking people to death, and duplication, he isn't the hero they want, but he's the hero they need.

Failing that, call him Slender Man and hang up your hat for the day.

[Cornelius Grim]

Xanmyral, I love that. Okay. So his name is Clark Lich. Although I think the super-hero name, "Lieutenant Lich" seems more fitting. Thank you! That's awesome, lol. :smallwink: