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Elric VIII
2011-08-07, 02:44 PM
I am interested in locating the various feats that allow multiclassing via making up for lost levels or class theurgy.

Vritual Levels(add pseudo-levels capped at HD):
Chaos Music (Dragon 326): +4 Bard levels for the purpose of Bardic Music power/effects.
Chaos Rage (Dragon 326): +4 Barbarian levels when determining the power of Rage.
Natural Bond (CAd): +3 to Druid level for Animal Companion.
Practiced Manifester (CPsi): +4 ML.
Practiced Spellcaster (CAr): +4 CL.
Superior Unarmed Strike (ToB): +4 to Monk level for unarmed damage (note: not capped at HD).


Theurge Feats (stack two class levels for the purpose of certain abilities):

Ascetic Hunter (CAd): Monk & Ranger levels stack for unarmed damage, bonus to Stinning Fist DC vs Favored Enemy.
Ascetic Knight (CAd): Monk & Paladin levels stack for unarmed and Smite Evil damage, free multiclassin betwwen them.
Ascetic Mage (CAd): Monk & Sorcerer levels stack for AC bonus, Cha replaces Wis to AC, sacrifice spell slots to gain bonus unarmed damage.
Ascetic Rogue (CAd): Monk & Rogue levels stack for unarmed damage, bonus to Stunning Fist DC on a SA.
Ascetic Stalker (CS): Monk & Ninja levels stack for unarmed damage and ki pool.
Daring Outlaw (CS): Roue & Swashbuckler levels stack for SA, race, and Dodge.
Daring Warrior (CS): Fighter & Swashbuckler levels stack for Grace, Dodge Bonus, and effective Fihter level.
Devoted Performer (CAd): Bard & Paladin levels stack for Bardic Music uses/day and Smite Evil damage.
Devoted Tracker (CAd): Paladin & Ranger levels stack for Smite Evil damage and Wild Empathy, Special Mount and Animal Companion can be the same creature.
Divine Inspiration (Draon 333): Bard & Cleric levels stack for Bardic Music.
Holy Mount (Dragon 325): Any other divine spellcasting classes count for progressing Paladin's Special Mount.
Initiate of Milil (CoV): Bard, Cleric, & Paladin levels stack for Bardic Music.
Martial Stalker (CS): Fighter and Ninja levels stack for ki pool, AC bonus, and effective Fighter level.
Master Spellthief (CS): Arcane Caster & Spellthief levels stack for Arcane CL and maximum level of spells stolen (cast all Arcane spells in Liht Armor).
Sacred Outlaw (Dragon 357): Rogue & Cleric stack for progressing Turn Undead as well as Sneak Attack.
Sacred Performer (Dragon 357): Bard & Cleric stack for Bardic Knowledge & uses of bardic music as well as Turn Undead.
Son of the White Raven: Warblade or Crusader levels & Bard levels stack for Inspire Courage. Activate IC as a swift action.
Swift Ambusher (CS): Rogue & Scout levels stack for Skirmish (but not SA).
Swift Avenger (Dragon 357): Druid & Scout stack for skirmish & wildshapes per day, but not the sizes & types of creatures.
Swift Hunter (CS): Ranger & Scout levels stack for Favored Enemy and Skirmish (also skirmish against FE even if immune).
Theurgic Bond(Dragon 325): Choose 1: Spellcasting classes with familiar progression counts towards progressing animal companion. OR Spellcasting classes with animal companion progression count towards progressing familiar. Can take once per animal companion or familiar.
Theurgic Mount(Dragon 325): Arcane spellcasting classes count for progressing Paladin's Special Mount.


I really like these feats and would like to find more.

Does anyone know of more of these types of feats (especially the +4 virtual level type)?

Zaq
2011-08-07, 02:47 PM
Natural Bond kinda fits in the same category as Practiced Spellcaster.

Soranar
2011-08-07, 02:52 PM
Ascetic Rogue (CAd): Monk & Rogue levels stack for SA, bonus to Stunning Fist DC on a SA.


Just reread that feat to be sure. Monk and rogue doesn't stack for SA, only for unarmed damage.

Elric VIII
2011-08-07, 02:57 PM
Natural Bond kinda fits in the same category as Practiced Spellcaster.

Oh, that's a good one.


Just reread that feat to be sure. Monk and rogue doesn't stack for SA, only for unarmed damage.

oops, I'll change that.

Thrice Dead Cat
2011-08-07, 08:27 PM
I want to say there was at least one of these type of feats in CM or CC, but I am AFB so I wouldn't know for sure. There was also a late running dragon magazine (as far as 3.X goes) that gave some more. The only one that comes to mind from said Dragon Magazine X was stacking cleric levels and rogue levels for sneak attack dice and I think turn undead.

playswithfire
2011-08-07, 08:39 PM
Song of the White Raven from Tome of Battle lets you stack bard with crusader or warblade for inspire courage and also lets you start bardic music as a swift action in a white raven stance.

Superior unarmed strike, also from ToB, adds 4 to your monk level for unarmed strike damage.

Coidzor
2011-08-07, 08:52 PM
Holy Mount(Dragon 325): Any other divine spellcasting classes count for progressing Paladin's Special Mount.

Theurgic Mount(Dragon 325): Arcane spellcasting classes count for progressing Paladin's Special Mount.

Theurgic Bond(Dragon 325): Choose 1: Spellcasting classes with familiar progression counts towards progressing animal companion. OR Spellcasting classes with animal companion progression count towards progressing familiar. Can take once per animal companion or familiar.

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Sacred Outlaw (Dragon 357): Rogue & Cleric stack for progressing Turn Undead as well as Sneak Attack.

Sacred Performer (Dragon 357): Bard & Cleric stack for Bardic Knowledge & uses of bardic music as well as Turn Undead.

Swift Avenger (Dragon 357): Druid & Scout stack for skirmish & wildshapes per day, but not the sizes & types of creatures.

Honorable mention: From Smite to Song (Champions of Valor): Expend a use of Smite Evil to activate Inspire Courage as a bard of your paladin level.

Qwertystop
2011-08-07, 09:07 PM
If you took a lot of these, would it essentially mean you could take 5 or 6 different classes and effectively be a watered-down double-Gestalt character? A lot of the Theurge ones mean you can multiclass w/o dropping your main class features.

Elric VIII
2011-08-07, 09:41 PM
Holy Mount(Dragon 325): Any other divine spellcasting classes count for progressing Paladin's Special Mount.

Theurgic Mount(Dragon 325): Arcane spellcasting classes count for progressing Paladin's Special Mount.

Theurgic Bond(Dragon 325): Choose 1: Spellcasting classes with familiar progression counts towards progressing animal companion. OR Spellcasting classes with animal companion progression count towards progressing familiar. Can take once per animal companion or familiar.

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Sacred Outlaw (Dragon 357): Rogue & Cleric stack for progressing Turn Undead as well as Sneak Attack.

Sacred Performer (Dragon 357): Bard & Cleric stack for Bardic Knowledge & uses of bardic music as well as Turn Undead.

Swift Avenger (Dragon 357): Druid & Scout stack for skirmish & wildshapes per day, but not the sizes & types of creatures.

Honorable mention: From Smite to Song (Champions of Valor): Expend a use of Smite Evil to activate Inspire Courage as a bard of your paladin level.

Nice, this is what I was hoping for.


I want to say there was at least one of these type of feats in CM or CC, but I am AFB so I wouldn't know for sure. There was also a late running dragon magazine (as far as 3.X goes) that gave some more. The only one that comes to mind from said Dragon Magazine X was stacking cleric levels and rogue levels for sneak attack dice and I think turn undead.

I'll check those two books out.


Song of the White Raven from Tome of Battle lets you stack bard with crusader or warblade for inspire courage and also lets you start bardic music as a swift action in a white raven stance.

Superior unarmed strike, also from ToB, adds 4 to your monk level for unarmed strike damage.

Thank you.


If you took a lot of these, would it essentially mean you could take 5 or 6 different classes and effectively be a watered-down double-Gestalt character? A lot of the Theurge ones mean you can multiclass w/o dropping your main class features.

A commonly presented/questioned build usin this idea is Sneak Attack Fighter/Martial Rogue/Swashbuckler with Daring Outlaw. You take 1 level of SA Fighter, 2 Swashbuckler, and finish off with Martial Rogue to get feats, SA, and Grace at the same time.

Coidzor
2011-08-07, 10:11 PM
Whoops. Left out one from Dragon 357. Sorry.

Elemental Stalker (Dragon 357): Shugenja & Ninja stack for the sense elements ability from the shugenja & for the AC bonus & size of ki pool from the ninja. Imposes additional restriction of matching ninja & shugenja elements if going with elemental flavored ninja.


This one is a bit meh and minor, but, there you go...

Theurgic Empathy (Dragon 325): Bard levels add to wild empathy checks.

Theurgic Creationist (Dragon 325): All levels of spellcasting classes are added together for caster level when crafting & caster level for prerequisites for crafting feats.

Theurgic Specialist (Dragon 325): All levels of spellcasting classes count for the caster level of spells from the school the character has specialized in, regardless of class list the spell is on.

I don't think this was mentioned, but it's sorta like an honorable mention...ish... And it's a favorite of Mystic Rangers!

Sword of the Arcane Order (Champions of Valor): Paladins and Rangers can use a spellbook to prep wizard spells in their divine spell slots, given sufficient Intelligence scores. Ranger & Paladin levels count 1-for-1 for Wizard caster level.

HunterOfJello
2011-08-07, 10:12 PM
Ascetic Psion (Secrets of Sarlona) - Psion and Monk levels stack for purposes of determining a Monk's bonus to AC. If you can add your Wisdom Bonus to AC, you can instead add your Intelligence bonus to AC. You can become psionically focused as a standard action. You can multiclass freely between Monk and Psion.

Tashalatora (SoS) - Your levels in the psionic class you selected for Monastic Training stack with you monk levels to determine your Ac bonus, flurry of blows attacks, and unarmed damage from the monk class.


Non-bolded area includes bonuses that are granted and relevant, but not what you specifically asked for.

Coidzor
2011-08-07, 10:31 PM
Practiced Mind Blade (Dragon 341): +4 levels of soulknife for purposes of the mindblade's weapon properties & enhancement bonus, but cannot exceed HD.

Possibly this one?

Improved Binding (Tome of Magic): +2 binder level for vestige access. No HD limitation.

Gadora
2011-08-07, 10:35 PM
Dragon 349 has eight feats geared towards caster/manifesters. I don't quite think that the "turn spell slots into power points" type feats are quite what you're looking for, but Psiotheurgist might be worth mentioning. It lets you stack your caster level with your manifester level when casting/manifesting spells/powers from a selected school of magic and its linked discipline.

I've got a slight issue to bring up on the topic of Sacred Performer. The only place it mentions mentions that it makes things stack for Bardic Knowledge is in the "for example" sentence.

EDIT: And now I've gone through all nine issues that I own.

FMArthur
2011-08-07, 10:46 PM
Practiced Mind Blade (Dragon 341): +4 levels of soulknife for purposes of the mindblade's weapon properties & enhancement bonus, but cannot exceed HD.

Possibly this one?

Improved Binding (Tome of Magic): +2 binder level for vestige access. No HD limitation.

Eh, Improved Binding is what all Binders take anyway. It makes multiclassing better than without it, but so does any ability. It doesn't make up for lost levels like everything else here; you stay the same number of levels behind a straight Binder as your Binder level would indicate because he takes it too.

jabnakw
2022-01-06, 03:53 AM
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Bphill561
2022-01-06, 06:02 PM
Similar to Practiced Spellcaster and Manifester is the Practiced Magic Feat from Dungeon 116 (p44, sidebar). It increases the caster level on spell-like abilities by +4 that cannot exceed your HD. It applies to all your spell-like abilities from a single source (ie, one template or class).

Seems like it could be useful for a Warlock or to a lesser extent a shadowcaster (since the casting changes based on level). I think even Truenamers count their abilities as spell like abilities. Of course monster PC's as well.

I had the most fun using it on a Fiend of Possession/Full Ur-Priest on Ur-Priest stolen spell-like abilities to extend mirrior mephits' simulacrum level range.

Hmm, there is a another divine feat I cannot remember from dragon that grants you an extra use of a limited times per day ability granted by a divine spell casting class. Not to be confused with a PrC that advances divine spell casting, otherwise Dweomerkeeper would be getting extra supernatural spells.

Edit: Oops, that is Dungeon magazine, not Dragon.

MaxiDuRaritry
2022-01-06, 06:15 PM
Similar to Practiced Spellcaster and Manifester is the Practiced Magic Feat from Dragon 116I believe that should be Dungeon #116. Dragon #116 is from an earlier edition entirely.

Thurbane
2022-01-06, 06:18 PM
The feat is also reprinted in the Shackled City hardcover, which has a similarly "official" status as Dragon Compendium.

Maat Mons
2022-01-06, 06:35 PM
Technically, Natural Bond doesn't catch you up to a straight Druid, because single-classed Druids already take it to compensate for the penalty to effective Druid level for using more powerful companions.

How do you feel about things that give you a class' signature ability without actually needing to multiclass into it? For example, Rage Cleric (Dragon 333, p86) gets all the Rage-based abilities of Barbarian (unlike that one Druid variant), great if you were thinking a Barbarian / Cleric multiclass sounded appealing.

Peelee
2022-01-06, 09:45 PM
The Mod on the Silver Mountain: The feat for Necromancy has the prereq of one level in Forum Staffer.