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Maho-Tsukai
2011-08-13, 11:11 AM
Simply put, I am looking for a theurge class that advances both divine spellcasting and psionic manifesting. In particular, I would like this class to be accessible to a Psion/Archivist. If such a class exists, please tell me in what sourcebook I can locate it. If no such class exsists or the one that dose exsist sucks beyond salvation then is there an arcane/psionic theurge in existence? If so, what sourcebook is it in?

erikun
2011-08-13, 11:14 AM
Cerebremancer (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/prestigeClasses/cerebremancer.htm) is your arcane/psionic theurge. (Expanded Psionic Handbook)

Psychic Theurge (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20040925b) is your divine/psionic theurge. (Mind's Eye website)

Godskook
2011-08-13, 11:15 AM
Cerebremancer is in XPH, and Psychic Theurge (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20040925b) was online.

Neither looks any better than a Mystic Theurge, but cause psionicists are better at taking manifester loss, its a lot better for that fact.

erikun
2011-08-13, 11:18 AM
Neither looks any better than a Mystic Theurge, but cause psionicists are better at taking manifester loss, its a lot better for that fact.
Psionics can also produce extra actions easier (Schism), which allows you to psion/magic together at the same time; much better than just having a bunch of spell slots and stuck wtih only one spell each round.

Maho-Tsukai
2011-08-13, 11:19 AM
Yeah, wasn't there also a dragon mag class that was an arcane/psionic theurge with some actual class features? I forget what it was called, but somebody mentioned it to me when describing a super-cheesy build that got infinite spells per-day somehow. I don't want to use it for that, but it could be used as a means for continued advancement after cerebremancer...dose anybody know what it is?

faceroll
2011-08-13, 11:22 AM
Cerebremancer is in XPH, and Psychic Theurge (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20040925b) was online.

Neither looks any better than a Mystic Theurge, but cause psionicists are better at taking manifester loss, its a lot better for that fact.

Yep.
Ardents' (complete psionic) powers known come from their mantles, and those are dependent on Manifester Level, not actual Ardent level. So a cleric 10/ardent 6 with the practiced manifester has access to 5th level powers from his mantles.

Ardent also manifests from wisdom, which is synergizes well with cleric, or better yet, ur-priest. Ardent 9/ur priest 2/ psychic theurge 9 with practiced manifester gets 9th level powers and 9th level cleric spells, and is wisdom SAD. Unforunately, you'll only have a Caster Level of 11 for Ur-Priest unless you pick up practiced caster, but even then, it will only be 15.


Yeah, wasn't there also a dragon mag class that was an arcane/psionic theurge with some actual class features? I forget what it was called, but somebody mentioned it to me when describing a super-cheesy build that got infinite spells per-day somehow. I don't want to use it for that, but it could be used as a means for continued advancement after cerebremancer...dose anybody know what it is?

The 3.0 Mind Mage, from DR 313. Combines manifesting and arcane casting. You can find it here:
http://www.angelfire.com/pro/demon_1/prc_mind_mage.htm

Early entry can be accomplished with spellhoarding lore drakes :smallwink:

erikun
2011-08-13, 11:33 AM
This thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132452) might be interesting. The first post is missing a few that are mentioned later in the thread, although nothing else that progresses arcane/psionic.


The 3.0 Mind Mage, from DR 313. Combines manifesting and arcane casting. You can find it here:
http://www.angelfire.com/pro/demon_1/prc_mind_mage.htm

Early entry can be accomplished with spellhoarding lore drakes :smallwink:
Huh, now that is interesting. Thanks for the link.