Feats for Warforged-Scout Wizard?

[Elboxo]

My old character, a warlock, tragically was bisected by a dragonborn warrior who rolled a crit for x3 damage on a greataxe against my 27 hp. Needless to say i made a wizard to replace him. I have chosen a warforged scout from monster manual 3. This is an entirely 3.5 world, i chose warforged scout because I am small, get construct traits, and the ability to heal myself with repair spells. My DM allowed me to swap out my familiar for a homunculus because it fits the character better than a robot having an owl pet. So far my choice in levels has been 4 wizard/2 Master specialist with the transmuter specialist variant in the UA, meaning i can take a spell from a prohibited school and cast it has a transmutation spell. So far i have for my feats: Unarmored body ( So I suffer no Arcane Spell Failure Chance ) and Spell focus: Transmutation, to get into master specialist. I want to ask you, playground, if you have suggestions for feats or a prestige class that can remove 5% arcane spell failure chance ( or an item ) and still gives casting. I remember finding one somewhere that the special prerequisite was you had to have defeated an enemy without magic... can't find it now.

Any how, if anyone has any ideas for feats or prestige classes for me to go into, i'd be very happy. My DM doesn't allow cheese, this is all 3.5 and i am starting at level 6. The world is mostly forest with some small villages in between, the cities are on huge animals carrying them on their backs, so many of the enemies we face are magical beasts or druids. The DM also has a fetish for kobolds and using them against us....
Pretty much all books are allowed, unless it's cheesy

Edit: Thinking of taking Immediate magic: Sudden Shift if my DM allows it. Instead of Homunculus

[LordBlades]

At that level I assume you have 4k to spend on an armor, so I'd rather suggest you make your composite plating +1 Twilight (PHB2) for no ASF and free a feat in the process.

In regards to PrCs, you can't really go wrong with either Incantatrix (PGtF) or Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil (CArc).

I'd also go regular warforged as opposed to scout as I think +2 con and 30 ft. speed are worth more than +2 dex and +1 attack and AC

[Optimator]

A dip in Spellsword reduces spell failure too.

[Nerdynick]

Off the top of my head, Spellsword (complete warrior I believe).

If you want to roleplay a gradually increasing recognition for nature, Geomancer (complete divine?) or Arcane Heirophant (Races of the Wild) will remove any arcane spell failure, iirc.

Huh, thats an interesting question. How do drifts affect Warforged Geomancers?

Also, I'm assuming you're asking because of Composite Plating (and you have some way around not being able revoke Unarmored Body). If so, check out the Twilight enchantment reduces Spell Failure by 10%

EDIT: Huh..... double ninja'd........

[Elboxo]

At that level I assume you have 4k to spend on an armor, so I'd rather suggest you make your composite plating +1 Twilight (PHB2) for no ASF and free a feat in the process.

In regards to PrCs, you can't really go wrong with either Incantatrix (PGtF) or Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil (CArc).

I'd also go regular warforged as opposed to scout as I think +2 con and 30 ft. speed are worth more than +2 dex and +1 attack and AC

Right, i am spending 4k on a +2 int item, i guess i could spend 4k on that and ask if that's ok to make my composite plating that. I said incantatrix and he instantly said no, this was earlier today.
Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil, i'm not sure he'd like, but i'll look into it.
Wait it says twilight armour is a +1 bonus, shouldn't it be 2k to make armour twilight armour?



A dip in Spellsword reduces spell failure too.

That was the one i was thinking of! But i need BaB and armour proficiencies....

Think i'll go master specialist conjuration instead to make use of the GSF and things. Not sure, either specialize in conjuration or go into general-style transmutation focus, note that with the transmuter variant i lose extra spell per day from being a specialist...... Could always not specialise i guess... DM won't allow Domain wizard.

[Elboxo]

For fun i could always get Mother Cyst and Heighten spell... muahahahaha

[LordBlades]

Right, i am spending 4k on a +2 int item, i guess i could spend 4k on that and ask if that's ok to make my composite plating that. I said incantatrix and he instantly said no, this was earlier today.
Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil, i'm not sure he'd like, but i'll look into it.
Wait it says twilight armour is a +1 bonus, shouldn't it be 2k to make armour twilight armour?

Before you can add Twilight the armor needs to be +1, so +1 Twilight is a total of +2, which costs 4k (bonus squared*1000)







Think i'll go master specialist conjuration instead to make use of the GSF and things. Not sure, either specialize in conjuration or go into general-style transmutation focus, note that with the transmuter variant i lose extra spell per day from being a specialist...... Could always not specialise i guess... DM won't allow Domain wizard.

I'd advise going focused specialist (either transmutation or conjuration). It's well worth it. If you want to go conjurer, take Abrupt Jaunt ACF if allowed(PHB2). Also, if you're into summoning, might want to take a look at Malconvoker (CScoundrel)

[Elboxo]

Before you can add Twilight the armor needs to be +1, so +1 Twilight is a total of +2, which costs 4k (bonus squared*1000)








I'd advise going focused specialist (either transmutation or conjuration). It's well worth it. If you want to go conjurer, take Abrupt Jaunt ACF if allowed(PHB2). Also, if you're into summoning, might want to take a look at Malconvoker (CScoundrel)

Thanks a lot all for ideas so far, I think I will heed advice and go regular WF with twilight armour, focused specialist conjuration ( into master specialist ) or transmutation into frost Mage for some flavour. Not sure about transmutation because of not being a person and all... I read an article and have been converted to focused specialist, dropping evoc, enchant and necro. Most likely going conjurer... Seeing as I'm starting at level 6 probably going to about 12
interesting question: by getting twilight composite plating, does it count as the natural armour bonus still? Or is it now normal armour? Cause if it ain't, then that thing is sexy

[LordBlades]

Thanks a lot all for ideas so far, I think I will heed advice and go regular WF with twilight armour, focused specialist conjuration ( into master specialist ) or transmutation into frost Mage for some flavour. Not sure about transmutation because of not being a person and all... I read an article and have been converted to focused specialist, dropping evoc, enchant and necro. Most likely going conjurer... Seeing as I'm starting at level 6 probably going to about 12
interesting question: by getting twilight composite plating, does it count as the natural armour bonus still? Or is it now normal armour? Cause if it ain't, then that thing is sexy


Warforged plating is not armor (but offers armor, not natural armor bonus and occupies the same body slot as an armor) but is said specifically in the Warforged entry in ECS that it can be enchanted as armor(and that doesn't change it's base properties at all).

[Elboxo]

Warforged plating is not armor (but offers armor, not natural armor bonus and occupies the same body slot as an armor) but is said specifically in the Warforged entry in ECS that it can be enchanted as armor(and that doesn't change it's base properties at all).

It counts as armour though, so Mage armour wouldn't stack with it? Just add 2 AC?

[Keld Denar]

Correct. It wouldn't stack. Mage Armor would overlap the AC bonus from your composite plating.

[Elboxo]

Sorted this with my DM and i have made it a warforged with +1 twilight composite plating ( 4k) and a +2 int item for 4k, he has allowed me a total of 11k so i'm go through the magic item compendium or perhaps buy one of the suggested dungeoneering packs for cheap and maybe some basic items for fun.
Going Wizard 5/Frostmage 1 ( Frostmage because it's reasonably powerful and easy to get into and gives me extra flavour )
Considering going into geometer/fatespinner at later levels
Feats so far are: Frozen Magic, Collegiate wizard and Cloudy Conjuration
I need two more feats, one of which has to be metamagic or spell focus. I guess with spell focus i could go into master specialist if i wanted.
I'm a focused specialist Conjurer, dropping Evoc, Enchantment and Necromancy

[Keld Denar]

Cheap items:

Anklets of Translocation (1400g) 2/day swift 10' teleport
Bracers of Arcane Freedom (2300g) 2/day swift action still spell on next spell
Quall's Feather Token (DMG Tree, Fan, and Whip)
Wand of Lesser Vigor (750g spell is in Complete Divine, Warforged benefit from Fast Healing)
Mithril Buckler (1000g, no ASF)

[LordBlades]

Some feat suggestions:

Improved Initiative,
Spell Focus(conjuration)
Easy Metamagic (Dr 325)
Extend Spell


I'd also suggest Fatespinner over Geometer. Also Frost Mage does very little for your build if you're not into blasting and puts you back 1 feat (Frozen Magic is rather useless if you don't plan to blast. Can't recall anything else than Shivering Touch and Ice Assassin that's good and has the [cold] descriptor). If you're dead set on it however, I also advise you to pick Snowcasting (Fr) (and maybe Cold Focus as well), so you can add [cold] descriptor to any spell you want.

As for items, Pisonic Tatoo of Ectoplasmic Form (750 gp) offers a nice 'get out of jail free' card.

[Elboxo]

Some feat suggestions:

Improved Initiative,
Spell Focus(conjuration)
Easy Metamagic (Dr 325)
Extend Spell


I'd also suggest Fatespinner over Geometer. Also Frost Mage does very little for your build if you're not into blasting and puts you back 1 feat (Frozen Magic is rather useless if you don't plan to blast. Can't recall anything else than Shivering Touch and Ice Assassin that's good and has the [cold] descriptor). If you're dead set on it however, I also advise you to pick Snowcasting (Fr) (and maybe Cold Focus as well), so you can add [cold] descriptor to any spell you want.

As for items, Pisonic Tatoo of Ectoplasmic Form (750 gp) offers a nice 'get out of jail free' card.

This is true, but the fluff works well, i'm a warforged made by dwarves in the mountains that was originally made to deter animals and adventurers from coming to close to Dwarven settlements.

I probably WILL go into fatespinner, i have yet to be converted to malconvokerism... really really don't like the idea of losing a caster level.... i'll look into it. Thanks for item ideas guys. Not a blaster, Conjurer with battlefield control tendencies

[LordBlades]

This is true, but the fluff works well, i'm a warforged made by dwarves in the mountains that was originally made to deter animals and adventurers from coming to close to Dwarven settlements.

I see, then I'd definitely recommend Snowcasting. You can combine it with Cold Focus, Spell Focus and Greater Spell Focus for pretty strong DCs.


I probably WILL go into fatespinner, i have yet to be converted to malconvokerism... really really don't like the idea of losing a caster level.... i'll look into it. Thanks for item ideas guys. Not a blaster, Conjurer with battlefield control tendencies

Malconvoker is probably the only wizard PrC that's worth losing a caster level for. You can read this (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=289.0) if you're interested (does a much better job at explaining what and why than I could without writing a wall of text). I've personally played one and it was a lot of fun.

[Runestar]

Dragonborn would remove the composite plating while letting you retain all living construct traits. :smallsmile:

[LordBlades]

Dragonborn would remove the composite plating while letting you retain all living construct traits. :smallsmile:

Dragonborn also opens access to Practical Metamagic (another metamagic reducer feat from Dragon Magic IIRC). Only somewhat worthwile thing you lose by going Dragonborn is Light Fortification

[Elboxo]

Dragon born would kill the fluff
anyway it's decided now lol... i've changed my mind a lot, but you guys have cleared things up for me, so i'm going Wizard 5/Malconvoker 1
Getting Conjurer specialist ACF's Rapid Summoning and Enhanced Summoning
Feats are ( At each level )
Flaw 1: Sculpt Spell
Flaw 2: Metamagic School Focus
1: Collegiate Wizard
3:Cloudy Conjuration
5:Skill Focus: Bluff
5(Wizard bonus): Spell Focus Conjuration

Our DM gives feats at odd levels, not every 3rd, to clear that up.

Swapping my Dex score (14) With my Cha score (12, down to 10 ) for a +1 on bluff, and -1 to AC which i can live with. By level 6 my bluff should be.... 9 + 3 + 1 = 13. And with most creatures not having sense motive at all or past +1, i think i will be fine. Gonna keep going in malconvoker, i will summon a lot now that i've read some articles on ideas for summoning, but my other primary focus will be Battle Field Control, as well as utility, some of which will come from Summons.
Once again playground, you've sorted my problems