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Cieyrin
2011-08-22, 02:45 PM
Inspired by the Optimizing Commoner 1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212423) thread, how would you go about making a Warforged Commoner? Put aside that Warforged are made for one thing: War. Following the Last War, many Warforged were emancipated and, not knowing what to do without someone to fight, many took to other professions. Why couldn't a platoon take to being farmhands? It's hard work that's repetitive, like they were initially taught in their battle drills when first brought online.

The Armored Farmer Corps is the fiercest looking farm this side of Karnath, it is! :smallwink:

Silus
2011-08-22, 03:37 PM
Though battle hardened constructs they might have been, they'll still fall to the might of the common house cat.

Morph Bark
2011-08-22, 03:43 PM
Their first level would still be in a PC class, as that is what they were made for, hence a Warforged commoner would be a lot more durable and able to fight off cats -- or, more likely, subdue them and *gasp* keep them as pets. Warforged aren't really edible to cats after all.

Jayh
2011-08-22, 04:12 PM
I am suddenly reminded of Animatrix, where humanoid robots do all the gruntwork of the world.

Big Fau
2011-08-22, 04:22 PM
Though battle hardened constructs they might have been, they'll still fall to the might of the common house cat.

Not really. Higher natural armor class and a natural weapon, plus enhanced Con score means that they are very capable of surviving the dreaded house cat. With an average of 3HP as an NPC, the Warforged Commoner could avoid being rendered unconscious and get to attack the cat right back. The 12 AC also helps.


Grant, he would be disabled until he takes 8 hours to make a Craft check, but he'd be able to kill a house cat.

Cieyrin
2011-08-22, 04:42 PM
Remember, these are the Armored Farming Corps! Adamantine Body means we finally have a foothold against the dreaded house cat!

Greenish
2011-08-22, 04:46 PM
Them's stealin' real people's jobs!

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/sharn_gallery/84575.jpg

Tech Boy
2011-08-22, 04:51 PM
I think it sounds like an awesome idea.

LansXero
2011-08-22, 05:10 PM
Them's stealin' real people's jobs!
-snip-


Source of the image? That seems very interesting.

Ravens_cry
2011-08-22, 05:23 PM
One series, I rather liked was the Bazil Broketail,in which flightless Dragons fought alongside humans with a young orphan who took care of them. They apparently, like legionaries, got a homestead upon retirement. A similar idea with warforged sounds neat to this one.

JonRG
2011-08-22, 05:26 PM
Source of the image? That seems very interesting.

Sharn: City of Towers p. 111

Volthawk
2011-08-22, 05:32 PM
I could see (talking outside of Eberron here) warforged being produced as workers. For example, one of my warforged's backstory is that he came from an area (well, a demiplane, but that's due to the setting (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157058)) where food and the like was limited, but raw materials were more common, so the option the people there took was to use constructs for most work (since then they could work as if they had a bigger population than they actually had, since the lack of food meant they had a low population) with warforged being common since they could learn, didn't need as many materials as a big golem (also being very similar to normal humanoids might've played into it). So there warforged would be farmers. Really, most jobs you'd see a normal humanoid doing in a normal setting, you'd likely see warforged doing it (as well as more specialised constructs, although warforged usually directed the mindless ones).

Prime32
2011-08-23, 07:10 AM
The existence of a warforged commoner is pretty unlikely due to the speed at which newly-created warforged pick up skills, but I suppose one could exist if it was created for testing purposes.

Tiki Snakes
2011-08-23, 07:18 AM
So, what springs to mind is this (http://youtu.be/HI9rXx88YsA).

Simply, proper warforged are almost immediately trained for war. But it's a fast, production line enviroment. There are going to be...rejects.

And those rejects might just end up trying to get by, working on a farm.
Hilarity ensues.

Yora
2011-08-23, 07:24 AM
I would assume all warforged comming from the assembly line being at least 1st level warriors. But after that, if they don't see any combat, additional levels in commoner don't seem that unlikely.

supermonkeyjoe
2011-08-23, 07:25 AM
I could imagine that a large batch created during the final few days of the war may have been freed before they had a chance to be trained for war, maybe house Cannith stockpiled a few thinking that the treaty of thronehold would break down into hostilities but instead ordered all warforged to be freed.

Fouredged Sword
2011-08-23, 07:28 AM
They won't be as good at actual farming as humans though, they get -2 to wis. They will be able to work huge amounts of land each though, as they don't sleep.

Greenish
2011-08-23, 08:00 AM
I would assume all warforged comming from the assembly line being at least 1st level warriors.Coming out of the creation forge, warforged are basically the same as new-born human babies. After that, there's a few month period during which they pick up skills and everything very, very fast (some trainers being convinced they already know the stuff, and just need to be reminded).

After the fast-forward boot camp, they come out of the "factory" as 1st level fighters (or other PC classes). That's one reason for their demand, they start with PC class levels in a setting where those are rare, and your average foot soldiers are 1st level commoners or warriors.

That's for Eberron, of course.

Morph Bark
2011-08-23, 10:42 AM
I would assume all warforged comming from the assembly line being at least 1st level warriors. But after that, if they don't see any combat, additional levels in commoner don't seem that unlikely.

Leader types amongst them instead come out was waristocrats.

Greenish
2011-08-23, 10:58 AM
Leader types amongst them instead come out as waristocrats.http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/4/3/0022a471-8769-4e7f-a20e-54c8ec2a8f3e.jpg

Morph Bark
2011-08-23, 12:02 PM
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/4/3/0022a471-8769-4e7f-a20e-54c8ec2a8f3e.jpg

Because I can (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212709). :smalltongue:

Umberhulk
2011-08-24, 08:02 AM
As far as NPCs go I could see some of them stepping out of the forge to become Experts.

Eldan
2011-08-24, 08:20 AM
I'd expect there to be a few experts in a warforged army. They still need craftsmen, after all. To repair them, their weapons, their wagons (if they have that) and other equipment. Sending humans along would really negate half the advantages of a warforged army.

Volthawk
2011-08-24, 08:25 AM
I'd expect there to be a few experts in a warforged army. They still need craftsmen, after all. To repair them, their weapons, their wagons (if they have that) and other equipment. Sending humans along would really negate half the advantages of a warforged army.

I would think that would be covered by warforged artificers, though.

Eldan
2011-08-24, 08:47 AM
Hmm, true.

I was thinking about armies of warforged NPCs, here. Warrior-forged and expert-forged. If they have PC levels, disregard that part.

Thrawn183
2011-08-24, 09:21 AM
One series, I rather liked was the Bazil Broketail,in which flightless Dragons fought alongside humans with a young orphan who took care of them. They apparently, like legionaries, got a homestead upon retirement. A similar idea with warforged sounds neat to this one.

I loved that series! I have no idea why so few people seem to have heard of it.

Umberhulk
2011-08-24, 09:38 AM
I would think that would be covered by warforged artificers, though.

Not everyone has a PC class, and a spell-caster should be even less common.

That's how I run a campaign setting anyways.

Volthawk
2011-08-24, 09:43 AM
Not everyone has a PC class, and a spell-caster should be even less common.

That's how I run a campaign setting anyways.

These are warforged, though. As Greenish said:


Coming out of the creation forge, warforged are basically the same as new-born human babies. After that, there's a few month period during which they pick up skills and everything very, very fast (some trainers being convinced they already know the stuff, and just need to be reminded).

After the fast-forward boot camp, they come out of the "factory" as 1st level fighters (or other PC classes). That's one reason for their demand, they start with PC class levels in a setting where those are rare, and your average foot soldiers are 1st level commoners or warriors.

That's for Eberron, of course.

Yeah, in different settings, sure they might have NPC classes at the start (like in the demiplane I described earlier).

flabort
2011-08-24, 10:03 AM
In a place created from the mind of a warforged overtaking and destroying it's instigator, (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211841) 2/5 NPCs are 1st level warforged commoners.
No boot camp for this setting, just... mass production. The 'forged are sometimes sold as servants, sometimes free to become farmers or adventurers.

Prime32
2011-08-24, 10:54 AM
Not everyone has a PC class, and a spell-caster should be even less common.

That's how I run a campaign setting anyways.Well, it would have taken a while to develop an effective training programme for artificers or factotums, so experts were probably more common earlier on.

hydroplatypus
2011-08-24, 11:04 AM
In a place created from the mind of a warforged overtaking and destroying it's instigator, (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211841) 2/5 NPCs are 1st level warforged commoners.
No boot camp for this setting, just... mass production. The 'forged are sometimes sold as servants, sometimes free to become farmers or adventurers.

Hi flabort, its me again... Could you please post this somewhere in the simulation thread as well... Please... It is significant to the setting.