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[Safety Sword]

Greetings Playground,
I'm looking for a race that has the following features:

Bonus Feat at 1st Level
Darkvision
Medium Sized (preferred but not essential)
Trying for LA +0 if at all possible.

Please state source also.

Thanks in advance,

[Dekion]

Are you looking for a specific bonus feat? That may help. Trying to find an out-of-the-box race with a "free to select" bonus feat, darkvision, and a +0 LA is difficult.

[hivedragon]

dwarf raised by humans

[BIGMamaSloth]

IIRC silverbrow human has either darkvision or low light vision but honestly why don't you just play a human and then find a magic item that gives you darkvision? I mean there has to be one of those.

[Serpentine]

Human with a template?

[Safety Sword]

Darkvision magic item at Level 1 is rather unlikely.

If the bonus feat gained was useful to archery then it could be a specific one.

The character I'm looking to build is also a skill monkey, so the loss of bonus skill points could hurt a little if I go Silverbrow Human.

Not sure if "dwarf raised by humans" will be acceptable to the DM. It's one of those "best of both worlds" solutions that is frowned upon.

[The-Mage-King]

Human with one level in Warlock? You get darkvision+ if you pick Devil's Sight as your invocation...

[IthroZada]

The character I'm looking to build is also a skill monkey, so the loss of bonus skill points could hurt a little if I go Silverbrow Human.


So you want the skill bonuses, the feat, and darkvision? That's the standard human abilities, plus some more. Realistically, you should not be able to find something like this without a template or level adjustment.

[HunterOfJello]

a Mineral Warrior Human is probably your best bet for a melee character with Darkvision and a bonus feat at LA +1


if you want fewer penalties, but fewer bonuses then you could play a Draconic Human

[Safety Sword]

So you want the skill bonuses, the feat, and darkvision? That's the standard human abilities, plus some more. Realistically, you should not be able to find something like this without a template or level adjustment.

I said the loss of bonus skills would hurt, but it's probably not a deal breaker. I can't however see how that confers Darkvision either, which really is a deal breaker. Maybe I've missed something?

[Urpriest]

Unseelie Fey Human can fit the bill, provided you interpret it as LA +0.

[Safety Sword]

Unseelie Fey Human can fit the bill, provided you interpret it as LA +0.

And where do I find out about this? Sounds... irregular :)

[BIGMamaSloth]

Unseelie Fey Human can fit the bill, provided you interpret it as LA +0.

wait,what? Unseelie fey as in the one from dragon mag? I never actually checked the LA on that but it's kind of broken if it ha no LA. I mean it can give you flight and (albeit weak) spell like abilities can't it? :smallconfused: Is this some cheesy trick or jut wizards doing what they do best? (read: horrible balance issues)

[Urpriest]

And where do I find out about this? Sounds... irregular :)

Dragon Compendium. While the template description doesn't say anything about it's LA, the example creature is a LA +0 Unseelie Fey Gnome. Use at your own risk, at LA +0 it's quite powerful.

[sreservoir]

it's kind of weird, too. you roll a bunch of stuff, and it's even possible to end up without eyes.

[Safety Sword]

Dragon Compendium. While the template description doesn't say anything about it's LA, the example creature is a LA +0 Unseelie Fey Gnome. Use at your own risk, at LA +0 it's quite powerful.

Sounds like a DM approval job in any case.

Keep 'em coming if you can think of any others, happy to do more research for this character.

[Serpentine]

I couldn't find any templates that give Darkvision without a level adjustment. Several with only a +1 LA, though.
Underfolk, from Races of the Dragon I think, have the Darkvision and extra skill points but not the feat. You could possibly negotiate with your DM to swap the extra stuff (natural armour, camouflage, etc) for the feat.

[Thurbane]

Well, not exactly what the OP asked for, but the Bind Vestige feat will allow you to bind Amon and get Darkvision. Use this on a human with a flaw, and you get pretty much what you're looking for.

[Vizzerdrix]

Dark Human Effigy incarnate construct?

[Darrin]

Azurin Totemist 1 with Basilisk Mask shaped and 1 essentia invested has darkvision 30'. (Magic of Incarnum)

Frostblood Orc/Half-Orc has darkvision and Endurance as a bonus feat. If you gain Endurance some other way (such as Ranger 3), you can get any other bonus feat you qualify for instead. (Follow this up with Dragonborn of Bahumat and you lose Endurance but keep the bonus feat... and you can pick up dragon tail/wings to boot.)

[Feytalist]

Human then changed to Dragonborn with the Sight ability. Keeps the feat and starting human skill points, and gains Darkvision slightly later on.

At least, that's how I think it works...

Edit: Wait, I'm an idiot. Humans lose the feat.

[sreservoir]

Dark Human Effigy incarnate construct?

LA -, unplayable.

[Greenish]

wait,what? Unseelie fey as in the one from dragon mag? I never actually checked the LA on that but it's kind of broken if it ha no LA. I mean it can give you flight and (albeit weak) spell like abilities can't it? :smallconfused: Is this some cheesy trick or jut wizards doing what they do best? (read: horrible balance issues)Dragon Magazines, while official D&D content, weren't published by WotC, so it's hardly fair to blame them (for that, there are plenty of things you can blame them for).

[CTrees]

Human with a +1LA template granting darkvision and some other -1LA template (like Pathfinder's Young)? Unfortunately loses you medium size.

Human w/ a template, then buyback the LA later?

Really, you want a bunch of nice things, for free. :smallconfused: So yeah.

[Safety Sword]

Really, you want a bunch of nice things, for free. :smallconfused: So yeah.

Well, what I want is a human that can see in the dark. I just would like to be able to do that at Level 1 rather than waiting to buy Goggles of Night (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#gogglesofNight) and stumbling around in the dark for many levels or getting my party ambushed because everyone can see us glowing in the dark with light spells :smallbiggrin:

Being the party scout it would be nice to be able to... well... see stuff. Might have to bite the bullet and just go dwarf and screw up my carefully planned feat progression for this character... plus short.

[Chess435]

Holy quadruple posting, batman!


Back on topic, can't you play a Dwarf and just pick up the bonus feat via Flaw (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/buildingCharacters/characterFlaws.htm) instead? It'd get you everything you're looking for......

[Rossebay]

Check Underfolk. No Bonus feat, but Darkvision 60' and the extra skill point.
Then, take the Nightsighted Trait from Unearthed Arcana. I think that gets you Darkvision 70'.
Finally, play a Bonus Feat Rogue (loses Sneak Attack, gains feats as a fighter would) for massive skill points, and a big 'ol boost to hide checks when you're hiding with rocks.

Races of Destiny (Underfolk)
Unearthed Arcana (Bonus Feat Rogue, Nightsighted Trait)
Also, for more feats I suggest flaws, also in Unearthed Arcana.

[Safety Sword]

Holy quadruple posting, batman!


Back on topic, can't you play a Dwarf and just pick up the bonus feat via Flaw (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/buildingCharacters/characterFlaws.htm) instead? It'd get you everything you're looking for......

Apparently an internal server 500 error still actually posts your message...

Fixed now.

Flaws aren't in play unfortunately. I'm just going to go with dwarf and rearrange my feats.