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Tvtyrant
2011-09-09, 02:00 AM
We all know that tanks don't really work in D&D because of the lack of agro. But does a Tank work?
http://www.davidmarkbrownwrites.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/JAPANESE_FORDSON_STEAMPUNK_TANK.jpg

How would you make a useful Tank in D&D?

(I would prefer it to be robotic/material rather then syntheist or the like, but if that is the best way so be it!)
etrpgb
2011-09-09, 02:40 AM
Agro? What agro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agro) meaning do you use?

About the question, as a vehicle you probably have to use the mounted rules. To make it useful you should consider:
- some kind of ranged weapon to simulate the cannon or other weapons.
- decide the harness of the metal shell that protects the driver and the difficulty open the door.
- If you think that there is no cannon, but archers or crossbow-users inside then give them cover.

In the DMG there are information about artifacts that are like modern weapons. Use them for the cannon.
Feytalist
2011-09-09, 02:49 AM
The MMORPG version. "Aggravation". Also called "pulling". The act of getting mobs to focus their attacks on you and just on you.

There was a thread here a while back on making the apparatus into a functioning vehicle. I'll see if I can dig it up.

Edit: Bingo. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213358)
Midnight_v
2011-09-09, 04:13 AM
You mean a vehicle tank?
Tvtyrant
2011-09-09, 04:17 AM
You mean a vehicle tank?

Yup. Might go with the effigy siege crab idea; big, metal, lots of HP.
Vizzerdrix
2011-09-09, 04:34 AM
Full plate barding on the siege crab, and either an animated balista or some sort of cover for the firing crew.

Idea. Mount a balista Huge heavy crossbow on a swivel on top, then make it an intelligent item and throw all sorts of tasty enchantments on it.
Demonic_Spoon
2011-09-09, 05:24 AM
Well it was originally called "A Different Type of Tank"...

Living in a Flying Box... (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19857754/Living_in_a_Flying_Box...)

(Ab)uses stronghold builders guidebook to make a hovertank protoss carrier type thing. You could add arcane ballistae or magic cannons(I think I saw stats for them somewhere actually) if you want to I suppose.
Tyndmyr
2011-09-09, 06:53 AM
The MMORPG version. "Aggravation". Also called "pulling". The act of getting mobs to focus their attacks on you and just on you.

Oh yeah, totally doable. As a example, my current char in my RL game is a crusader. Uses the stance that gives enemies I threaten -4 to attack my allies. I also tend to lay out solid damage, so ignoring my AoOs is a poor choice. In practice, this means mobs tend to hit me.

But, yknow, if they don't, the rogue-like char has Fade Into Violence, which gives him a bluff check to redirect attacks on him to me.

It's a little less straightforward than MMO aggro(which is likely good), but it CAN be managed.
Tvtyrant
2011-09-09, 04:41 PM
Well it was originally called "A Different Type of Tank"...

Living in a Flying Box... (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19857754/Living_in_a_Flying_Box...)

(Ab)uses stronghold builders guidebook to make a hovertank protoss carrier type thing. You could add arcane ballistae or magic cannons(I think I saw stats for them somewhere actually) if you want to I suppose.

This is exactly what I am looking for! The spell turret even acts like a gun turret! :D

Start with crawling and work up seems the best way to keep the prices low; only costs 30,000 that way.