makeing a nice master thrower better (3.5)

[bobthe6th]

ok, I am bringing back a build for a modual I ran through in the past.
it is a throw TWF, based around insitful strike and palm toss/later two with one blow
fighter2/swashbuckler3/master thrower1.
now major problem, at start with TWF, rapid shot, and palm toss, a full attack burns 10 daggers. other than bags of holding or returning daggers (10 returning daggers is a bit much to ask at level 6) how can he carry the daggers to last more than 3 rounds.

[MeeposFire]

Well if you add 4 levels of bloodstorm blade in the future you will only ever need one dagger since it will come back after every attack.

[hex0]

Toss some ninja stars too until you can pick your knives back up? (sorry my - and - keys do not work)

Bonus if you can find my keys

[hex0]

Can your wizard researc a spell to make you auto-return your stuff?

[Eisirt]

Straight from the Magic Item Companion, page: 101

GAUNTLET OF INFINITE BLADES
Price (Item Level): 6,500 gp (10th)
Body Slot: Hands
Caster Level: 12th
Aura: Strong; (DC 21) conjuration, divination
Activation: Swift (mental)
Weight: 1 lb.
This gauntlet is made of braided mithral links.
A gauntlet of infinite blades allows you to produce a weapon at a moment’s notice. When it is activated, a dagger appears in the hand wearing the gauntlet. This ability functions as often as needed, though the dagger disappears 3 rounds after it is created.
In addition, the gauntlet has 5 charges, which are renewed each day at dawn. Spending 1 or more charges creates a more potent dagger than normal, as described below.
1 charge: +3 dagger.
3 charges: +3 dagger of seeking.
5 charges: +3 bane dagger of seeking (choose the creature type and subtype, if needed, when activating the gauntlet).
Prerequisites: Craft Magic Arms and Armor, Craft Wondrous Item, greater magic weapon, major creation, summon monster I, true seeing.
Cost to Create: 3,250 gp, 260 XP, 7 days.

[Eisirt]

now major problem, at start with TWF, rapid shot, and palm toss, a full attack burns 10 daggers.

I have the feeling TWF is not stacking with Rapid Shot.

[MeeposFire]

I have the feeling TWF is not stacking with Rapid Shot.

Actually they do stack though so do the penalties.

[Eisirt]

Poor wording on the TWF-part.

[2xMachina]

Yeah, you want BSB sooner or later. It's much better to use a +5 Dagger 10 times, than to throw 10 +1 daggers (for about same price)

[Darrin]

Straight from the Magic Item Companion, page: 101
GAUNTLET OF INFINITE BLADES


For only 500 GP more, pick up the Gloves of Endless Javelins instead (7000 GP, MIC p. 194). Free action to activate, infinite supply of +1 force javelins. Ignores DR, incorporeal, ethereal, and triple the range of a dagger.

[MeeposFire]

For only 500 GP more, pick up the Gloves of Endless Javelins instead (7000 GP, MIC p. 194). Free action to activate, infinite supply of +1 force javelins. Ignores DR, incorporeal, ethereal, and triple the range of a dagger.

He wants to palm throw and you can't palm throw javelins (or at least I don't think you can).

[Darrin]

He wants to palm throw and you can't palm throw javelins (or at least I don't think you can).

There's a bit of wiggle room in Palm Throw, but it requires an amiable DM:



When using little thrown weapons (darts, shuriken, and daggers; the DM may allow other weapons)

(emphasis added)

[2xMachina]

Downsized javelins?

[silver spectre]

Downsized javelins?

Wouldn't those be darts??

[2xMachina]

Wouldn't those be darts??



When using little thrown weapons (darts, shuriken, and daggers; the DM may allow other weapons)

And hey! it works!

[Hirax]

+1 for 4 levels of bloodstorm blade

[pilvento]

If you want to avoid ToB and stick to a more rouguish build, Wisperknife from Races of the wild has a similar feature and comes with lots of nice tricks like extra attacks, ranged flank, poison use, SAdice, and a DEX based death attack.

[hex0]

If you want to avoid ToB and stick to a more rouguish build, Wisperknife from Races of the wild

Speaking of Whisperknife...Halfling Paragon.

[Ryu_Bonkosi]

Toss some ninja stars too until you can pick your knives back up? (sorry my - and - keys do not work)

Bonus if you can find my keys

Ok my guess the (,) and (.) keys.

+1 for 4 levels of Bloodstorm Blade.

[hex0]

Ok my guess the (,) and (.) keys.


What about a weapon with the returning enchantment? It might not be every attack but you can obtain them pretty easily. (Or 4 levels of bloodstorm blade, that works too.)

Actually it was my 'g' 'h' and ''' keys :smallbiggrin:

Whisperknife makes using returning daggers more spiffy iirc