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Getsugaru
2011-09-29, 07:24 PM
I've just been re-watching Bleach, and started to wonder what Ichigo and friends would be built in 3.5. So how would you build them?

Silva Stormrage
2011-09-29, 08:19 PM
Well... before I get swordsaged there is this which I am PRETTY sure can make Ichigo and his friends. :smallwink:

http://www.dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Bleach_D20_(3.5e_Sourcebook)


Actually being helpful lets see.

Ishida is easy, he is a soulbow which is refluffed to have a bow as well as arrows.

For Ichigo lets first see what he can do.
Getsuga Tensho
melee
Shunpo
Bankai
Vizard Mask

I think psychic warrior works best for this with a bit of refluffing. Psychic warrior has some teleportation (dimensional step + dimensional door at high levels) can shoot energy blasts (Energy Bolt through expanded knowledge) + transform (refluff metamorphosis to bankai choose medium sized form with awesome stats) + Vizard Mask (Choose a form with better stats????)

Orihime is a cleric who only prepares vigor and a shield spell

Renji, Sado and Rukia are also psychic warriors adjusting powers accordingly.

Terazul
2011-09-29, 08:46 PM
There's a bunch of things people have made to emulate it. If you don't have an aversion to homebrew, I personally like a couple (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87501) things (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77619) floating (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74984) around (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93200) that (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71073) Krimm made.

Getsugaru
2011-09-29, 11:16 PM
Well... before I get swordsaged there is this which I am PRETTY sure can make Ichigo and his friends. :smallwink:

http://www.dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Bleach_D20_(3.5e_Sourcebook)


Actually being helpful lets see.

Ishida is easy, he is a soulbow which is refluffed to have a bow as well as arrows.

For Ichigo lets first see what he can do.
Getsuga Tensho
melee
Shunpo
Bankai
Vizard Mask

I think psychic warrior works best for this with a bit of refluffing. Psychic warrior has some teleportation (dimensional step + dimensional door at high levels) can shoot energy blasts (Energy Bolt through expanded knowledge) + transform (refluff metamorphosis to bankai choose medium sized form with awesome stats) + Vizard Mask (Choose a form with better stats????)

Orihime is a cleric who only prepares vigor and a shield spell

Renji, Sado and Rukia are also psychic warriors adjusting powers accordingly.

The Link is broken...

Frosty
2011-09-29, 11:59 PM
I personally think that Ichigo can be modeled well using a Barbarian/Swordsage mix. Re-fluff the Desert Sun maneuvers to not deal Fire damage.

Silva Stormrage
2011-09-30, 01:08 AM
I personally think that Ichigo can be modeled well using a Barbarian/Swordsage mix. Re-fluff the Desert Sun maneuvers to not deal Fire damage.

I was thinking about that as well but I wasn't sure how to work bankai + vizard mask. Also flash step could be duplicated with shadow step/blink but those aren't that good till lvl 13 really which is a bit late.

Edit: GAHH Sorry missed a parenthesis at the end... here is the link

http://www.dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Bleach_D20_(3.5e_Sourcebook)

Frosty
2011-09-30, 01:26 AM
Also flash step could be duplicated with shadow step/blink but those aren't that good till lvl 13 really which is a bit late.

http://www.dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Bleach_D20_(3.5e_Sourcebook)Ichigo is frickin' high level. He STARTS at like level 9 :smalltongue:

hex0
2011-09-30, 01:36 AM
Ichigo is frickin' high level. He STARTS at like level 9 :smalltongue:

True. It could also be argued that bankai is a function of having a legacy weapon etc. rather than tryin to find a match in the rules. Bankai could be a check (CON check with increasing dc?) to get a combat boost? haste plus STR, DEX, CON boost for X+new CON rounds?

Frosty
2011-09-30, 02:11 AM
Actually, I'd just reflavor Rage as Shikai or Bankai. After all, when Rage ends, he gets tired!

Morph Bark
2011-09-30, 05:15 AM
Actually, I'd just reflavor Rage as Shikai or Bankai. After all, when Rage ends, he gets tired!

Bankai = Whirling Frenzy + Lion Totem?

Then Vizard = Frenzy. :smallamused:

Considering his shikai is always active, no need to put that in. Without going shinigami, he's prettymuch a normal human after all, with just slightly above-average stats.


There's a bunch of things people have made to emulate it. If you don't have an aversion to homebrew, I personally like a couple (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87501) things (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77619) floating (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74984) around (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93200) that (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71073) Krimm made.

I don't know about the other PrCs, but the Inner Demon feat is too strong for a feat. A while ago I mentioned that in my evaluation of homebrew used in my campaigns and Krimm said in reply he had made changes, but looking at it now, there don't really seem to be any.


Also, Silvia's link is broken because he did not turn it into a proper link, causing the ) to not be included in the hotlink. He meant to link to this (http://www.dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Bleach_D20_(3.5e_Sourcebook)). There is also a thread on this in the homebrew forum made pretty recently. Ask The-Mage-King about it.

Xtomjames
2011-09-30, 08:31 AM
Ichigo Kurosaki I would think would be best made with the Soulmelds out of Magic of Incarnum, Binder magic from Tome of Magic, and the Warblade abilities Tome of Battle. His sanbatou (zanbatou) would be an awakened ancestral sword. Bankai would be an activation of the awakened ancestral sword's abilties and soulmelds, and the vizard mask would be a soulmeld type or potentially a binding.

(This suggested build isn't to RAW, it far exceeds the number of melds allowed and is designed to imitate the character rather than to make the character fit into RAW D&D 3.5).

Soulmeld used: Airstep Sandals,
Mauling Gauntlets
Bluesteel Bracers
Lammasu Mantle
Wind Cloak
Adamant Pauldrons
Necrocarnum Shroud and Vestments
(Most of these are available to all soulmeld users)

Binder: None of the D&D RAW vestiges work but since the Vizard mask is really an extension of the hollow inside of Ichigo, we could create a custom vestige here for this purpose called Inner Soul Vestige. It manifests the Inner Soul of the character taking on aspects of that person's desires.

In Ichigo's case the vestige sign would be a hollow mask and the granted powers would be increases to Str, Dex, and Speed, each of which are level dependent. At first level he gains only a +1 to Str and Dex and a +10 to speed, at the next binder level he gains a +2 and +20 respectively, and 3rd level a +3 and +30 and so on.

Warblade

I'd take Wall of Blades (Iron Heart), Steel Wind, Absolute Steel Stance, and Iron Heart Surge

Make this a Gestalt character, stack the Binder and Warblade together and level the Incarnum and stack it with the Incarnum Blade PrC

Make sure your CON is very high and take the Double Chakras feat twice to gain enough slots for the soulmelds listed above. and Split Chakras feats. Take Adaptive Style for the Warblade.

Weapon: Executioner's sword (base) 1d12 crit x4 (Unawakened state) Intelligent, special properties: transformation.

Awakened State (Bankai) (Has 4 lesser powers 3 greater powers. Int 19, Wis 19, Cha 10. Darkvision 120 feet, Blindsense and Hearing.)
Alignment Chaotic Good/Chaotic Evil (Soul and Hollow half states), Dual Mind, Special: Tied to wielder's soul:
Lesser abilities: 10 ranks intimidate, 10 ranks Knowledge (Zanbatou lore), 10 ranks listen, 10 ranks Sense Motive.
Major Abilities: Swapped for Dedicated powers 1: Force Energy Wave 1d6+ 1d6/level 90 foot cone +10 feet per level. (Getsuga Tenshou)

Considered a +3 katana when transformed, +1 greatsword in base state.

I hope this helps.
Note: You can do this build by 13th level if you exclude the PrC suggestion.

Frosty
2011-09-30, 10:26 AM
We need to give Ichigo at least onelevel in Master of Masks :smallbiggrin:

Krimm_Blackleaf
2011-10-03, 12:55 PM
I don't know about the other PrCs, but the Inner Demon feat is too strong for a feat. A while ago I mentioned that in my evaluation of homebrew used in my campaigns and Krimm said in reply he had made changes, but looking at it now, there don't really seem to be any.

I rebuke your statement, sir! The original had the character raging as a barbarian of half their level, and now they only rage as a first level barbarian and remain thoroughly crazy.

Morph Bark
2011-10-03, 01:55 PM
I rebuke your statement, sir! The original had the character raging as a barbarian of half their level, and now they only rage as a first level barbarian and remain thoroughly crazy.

Noted. I hadn't kept a copy of the original to compare to the second, so I couldn't find the difference. :smallredface:

Though I kept thinking of the feat as incorporating the first-level ability (the stance), which would have made the feat too strong for just a feat. Thinking about it now though, with it being as just a first-level barbarian and requiring the stance until level 10 (where you can have it always active), the level of power gained from the feat is at a much more okay level.

I wouldn't advise any DM allowing it at first-level still though. xD