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DonutBoy12321
2011-10-01, 02:38 PM
Is there a list of dual-casting PrCs anywhere? Specifically, arcane/divine PrCs.

Chilingsworth
2011-10-01, 02:42 PM
The only classes that can progress divine and arcane casting I can think of are:

Mystic Theurge
True Necromancer
Geomancer (sort of, doesn't progress both at the same time, but does give some effects that can improve both.
Arcane Hierophant

Murg
2011-10-01, 02:48 PM
I don't know of a list, but there's

Mystic Theurge
Arcane Heirophant
True Necromancer
Fochlucan Lyrist
Geomancer (kinda)
Yathrinshee

Anarchy_Kanya
2011-10-01, 02:54 PM
Green Whisperer.

Urpriest
2011-10-01, 03:55 PM
If Geomancer counts, shouldn't Dweomerkeeper as well?

DoctorGlock
2011-10-01, 04:57 PM
I feel that eldritch disciple should get an honorable mention as invocations are a form of arcane casting

nedz
2011-10-01, 05:05 PM
What about Chameleon from Races of Destiny - its all fake I know, but still.

noparlpf
2011-10-01, 05:12 PM
Green Whisperer.

Where is that from?


Also, are there any for Cleric/Druid or similar? I've been meaning to post a thread asking but never got around to it. All the ones I know mix arcane and divine.

Anarchy_Kanya
2011-10-01, 05:37 PM
Dr 311.


Also, are there any for Cleric/Druid or similar? I've been meaning to post a thread asking but never got around to it. All the ones I know mix arcane and divine.
As far as I know there aren't any. Ultimate Magus is the one and only prc that dual-progresses two casting classes with the same spell type.

noparlpf
2011-10-01, 05:40 PM
And where's Ultimate Magus?

erikun
2011-10-01, 05:42 PM
And where's Ultimate Magus?
Complete Mage
Here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20061010a&page=3) is the preview.

Anarchy_Kanya
2011-10-01, 05:46 PM
And where's Ultimate Magus?
Google it.

TheJake
2011-10-02, 06:11 AM
Green Whisperer.

That's from Dragon. As much as I like that one, I'd be sketchy citing Dragon references as canonical.

- J.

PlzBreakMyCmpAn
2011-10-04, 07:50 PM
You'd also be right. Anyone got the page and issu

Anarchy_Kanya
2011-10-04, 07:52 PM
You'd also be right. Anyone got the page and issu
Could you please start ending your sentences?

Onikani
2011-10-04, 08:35 PM
And where's Ultimate Magus?

The better question is why should he be on a list of arcane/divine dual progression PrC's?
:smallbiggrin:

Psyren
2011-10-04, 08:52 PM
If you sub "psionics" for "arcane" (they do a lot of the same things), then Psychic Theurge could work too.


Could you please start ending your sentences?

Why, is it bothering y

Anarchy_Kanya
2011-10-04, 08:54 PM
Why, is it bothering y

Because it's an

gkathellar
2011-10-04, 09:13 PM
Green Whisperer is from Dragon 311, pg. 69-70 (mostly 70, as there's only fluff on 69).

It is a 5-level PrC that progresses bard and druid spellcasting, bardic knowledge, and bardic music (including songs known). Entry requirements are minimal: some skill ranks, and a neutral component to your alignment. At 5th level, you can use mind-affecting abilities on plants. That's the extent of what's interesting about it.


Why, is it bothering y

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Geigan
2011-10-04, 09:57 PM
Green Whisperer is from Dragon 311, pg. 69-70 (mostly 70, as there's only fluff on 69).

It is a 5-level PrC that progresses bard and druid spellcasting, bardic knowledge, and bardic music (including songs known). Entry requirements are minimal: some skill ranks, and a neutral component to your alignment. At 5th level, you can use mind-affecting abilities on plants. That's the extent of what's interesting about it.



Oh no Candlejack is here, he's going to get

Oh great, there goes the thr

Ryu_Bonkosi
2011-10-05, 12:15 AM
Curse you Candlejack, curse y

JackRackham
2011-10-05, 01:44 AM
Related question: is there a RAW way to get 9th level arcane AND spells by level 20? What about for a cleric-wizard (I feel like druids have more dual-progression options, idk why)?

Hirax
2011-10-05, 01:48 AM
Related question: is there a RAW way to get 9th level arcane AND spells by level 20? What about for a cleric-wizard (I feel like druids have more dual-progression options, idk why)?

I'm going to guess you meant arcane and divine?

Wizard 10/ur-priest2/theurge8 gets 9th level wizard and cleric spells.

Feytalist
2011-10-05, 04:21 AM
Hathran also. Needs dual-casting to get into, but only advances on at a time.

dextercorvia
2011-10-05, 09:24 AM
Related question: is there a RAW way to get 9th level arcane AND spells by level 20? What about for a cleric-wizard (I feel like druids have more dual-progression options, idk why)?

Easy no DM should balk way -- Druid3/Wizard3/MysticTheurge2/ArcaneHierophant10/MT+2. Of course with early entry or Ur-Priest it becomes easier.

Psyren
2011-10-05, 09:26 AM
Wizard 3/Druid 3/Arcane Hierophant 10/Mystic Theurge 4 gets both arcane and divine 9ths by RAW.

So will Sorcerer 8/Divine Crusader 2/Mystic Theurge 10, while being Cha-SAD. (You don't get a lot of divines though.)

Blighter and Apostle of Peace are also fast-progression casters.

gkathellar
2011-10-05, 10:29 AM
Related question: is there a RAW way to get 9th level arcane AND spells by level 20? What about for a cleric-wizard (I feel like druids have more dual-progression options, idk why)?

As people have mentioned, efficiently combining any of the many dual progression caster classes mentioned in this thread can get you this easily. Of course the best method is Artificier.

dextercorvia
2011-10-05, 10:30 AM
Wizard 3/Druid 3/Arcane Hierophant 10/Mystic Theurge 4 gets both arcane and divine 9ths by RAW.

So will Sorcerer 8/Divine Champion 2/Mystic Theurge 10, while being Cha-SAD. (You don't get a lot of divines though.)

Blighter and Apostle of Peace are also fast-progression casters.

Where is Divine Champion?

Tyndmyr
2011-10-05, 10:31 AM
Related question: is there a RAW way to get 9th level arcane AND spells by level 20? What about for a cleric-wizard (I feel like druids have more dual-progression options, idk why)?

Wizard 5/Mindbender 1/Ur Priest 2/Mystic Theurge 8/Whatever arcane progressing class 4 is a pretty easy way to do it.

gkathellar
2011-10-05, 10:34 AM
Where is Divine Champion?

Complete Divine.

Psyren
2011-10-05, 10:37 AM
Where is Divine Champion?

Sorry! I meant Divine Crusader :smallredface: They are in Complete Divine.

They get 9ths in 9 levels, but only from one domain. (You can broaden their list with additional domains, or simply pick a pretty versatile domain like Spell.)

Something unique about them is that they are Cha-focused prepared casters, a combination you almost never see.

dextercorvia
2011-10-05, 10:40 AM
Sorry! I meant Divine Crusader :smallredface: They are in Complete Divine.

They get 9ths in 9 levels, but only from one domain. (You can broaden their list with additional domains, or simply pick a pretty versatile domain like Spell.)

Something unique about them is that they are Cha-focused prepared casters, a combination you almost never see.

That is what I thought you meant. Sorcerer8, even Battle Sorcerer8 doesn't have the BAB requirements for Divine Crusader.

Psyren
2011-10-05, 10:43 AM
That is what I thought you meant. Sorcerer8, even Battle Sorcerer8 doesn't have the BAB requirements for Divine Crusader.

Battle Sorcerer 10/DC 2/MT 8 then. Season with other PrCs to taste (e.g. Spellsword)

etrpgb
2011-10-05, 10:51 AM
If your master accept a racial ability as a class ability you can try:

Bamboo Spirit Folk
Shugenja 1/Sorcerer 2/Mystic Theurge 7/Arcane Hierophant 10

It should be doable with Versatile Spellcaster and Highten Spell.

If your master is annoying play an Elf and put a Wildrunner level somewhere.

Elf (Any, possibly Star or Snow Elf)
Shugenja 1/Sorcerer 2/Mystic Theurge 6/Wildrunner 1/Arcane Hierophant 10