[NON-POLITICAL] Anybody having job issues? If so, I MAY be able to help.

[Maho-Tsukai]

As the title says. I know with the current economic situation around the world many people are having issues finding jobs. With mass protests and the like over the lack of middle class jobs, it seems that there are a lot of people out there who need employment and thus, I am looking to help this situation somewhat. While I cannot yet say what my full plans are(because they are still forming and VERY rough right now) I want to know if anybody out there needs help in this department. I am not guaranteeing anything and this is nothing more then a fleeting, barely fleshed out idea right now, but I want to know who/what, if anybody, I would have to work with once I get a more clear vision of what I want to do and as a result am extending a hand. I want to help fix these economic issues and I feel a lot of people could be put to work if their true strengths where brought out and thus I want to know if there is anybody out there who needs some kind of employment/work that I could try and help.

So, if interested, respond here and/or PM me.

[Karoht]

I'm listening.

[Tyndmyr]

I don't have any job issues myself, but I'm curious, and occasionally get into things on a hobby level, and am occasionally able to refer friends suited for jobs and what not, so I'm interested in hearing more.

Edit: Also, you'll likely get more interest, and more serious interest when you have more details than an unmentioned barely fleshed out idea.

[RS14]

Can't say what their full plans are... goals of national scope... would put a lot of people to work...

Maho-Tsukai, are you trying to recruit an army of evil henchmen? :smallbiggrin:

[Eldan]

I'm not sure...
Henchmen armies do sound kinda political :smalltongue:

[missmvicious]

I have a terrible job. Other than the fact that it occasionally comes with a paycheck, it is completely insufferable, but I'm moonlighting as a freelance writer right now and am loving it! Still, it doesn't exactly pay the bills. :smallfrown:

I'd be happy to toss my hat into this circle!

[Admiral Squish]

My job's okay, but I suspect that anything you're advertising here will be much more interesting. Color me interested, but I'm not promising anything until I hear the whole deal.

[starwoof]

Tentatively interested, are we knocking over a bank or something?

[ric0]

may well be interested..........

[Seffbasilisk]

Interested, but looking to know more.

[Eloel]

Interested and listening.

[grimbold]

this...seems interesting... and unsettling
i might be able to help out but i don't have job issues...

[Raddish]

Confused and curious.

[H Birchgrove]

Can't say what their full plans are... goals of national scope... would put a lot of people to work...

Maho-Tsukai, are you trying to recruit an army of evil henchmen? :smallbiggrin:

I'm willing to run the European office. :smallwink:

[Weezer]

I'm certainly curious and interested. I'm in college so not technically ''unemployed'' but been unable to get a part time job and actually having money is a great thing. Have no idea if a part time level of commitment would be at all what you're looking for but would like to put my name in the hat if it is.

[Cobalt]

I, at the least, want to know what you're planning on, even if I cannot ultimately contribute. Though I guess throwing my hat into the ring is not ruled out yet.

[Saposhiente]

:/

You're giving nothing here with this first post. It's awfully like the tricks of psychology where you get someone to take a flier before asking for a donation, or where you ask for a minor favor before you ask for an investment and take the money and run, because saying "yes" once makes saying "yes" again easier, with saying "no" leading to a feeling of letting the other person down. I'm not accusing you of anything, but this registers high on my scam-dar.

[golentan]

That said if this is recruitment for some sort of henchmen, I'm totally in. I could use some more excitement in my life. (Seriously speaking I would be willing to listen to your pitch but not promise interest once I heard it).

[Lyndworm]

You're giving nothing here with this first post. It's awfully like the tricks of psychology where you get someone to take a flier before asking for a donation, or where you ask for a minor favor before you ask for an investment and take the money and run, because saying "yes" once makes saying "yes" again easier, with saying "no" leading to a feeling of letting the other person down. I'm not accusing you of anything, but this registers high on my scam-dar.

That said if this is recruitment for some sort of henchmen, I'm totally in. I could use some more excitement in my life. (Seriously speaking I would be willing to listen to your pitch but not promise interest once I heard it).
Ditto. Text.

[grimbold]

i would be henchman if i got the plastic surgery so i looked like everyone else XD

[JessicaMonroe]

Definitely interested and pretty intrigued by the secrecy of the project. I'll also vote for henchmen.

[Alleine]

Color me curious, I'd like more info.

I like how everyone seems to be interested in being evil henchmen. :smallbiggrin:

[Asta Kask]

He'll need twelve (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061578/) of you. :smallbiggrin:

[Seerow]

Also interested in hearing more but not promising anything without knowing more than "I have a plan but can't tell you it yet!"

[mootoall]

Colour me interested, if only because I can't conceive any other large-scale job solution that doesn't involve government fiscal policy action.

[H Birchgrove]

He'll need twelve (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061578/) of you. :smallbiggrin:

I offered Richard the service of my Free Lances, and he refused them - I will lead them to Hull, seize on shipping, and embark for Flanders; thanks to the bustling times, a man of action will always find employment.

Walter Scott, Ivanhoe, 1812.

[DragonBaneDM]

No we will not help you build a necromancer. :smalltongue:

I'm interested to see where this goes, though!

[Mono Vertigo]

I highly doubt you could help me, but hey, I'm also in if it's a henchmen thing. :smallbiggrin:

[EmeraldRose]

My vote is on an experiment of some sort, since it's been nearly three weeks with no response from the OP.

Perhaps recruiting for a zombie army? I will stay as an impartial observer, as I am happily employed at the moment. :smallwink:

[Lionheart]

I am having job issues, and would be willing to do almost anything at this point. So I'm definitely interested.
Less on the evil henchman front though, perhaps some sort of evil mini-management/mid-level boss position would be available :smalltongue:

[Venger]

I'm assuming it's something that can be done over the internet since you posted it here and we're all over the world and possibly have to do with roleplaying games.

I'd be interested in more information

[Lyndworm]

My vote is on an experiment of some sort, since it's been nearly three weeks with no response from the OP.
If it turns out to be some sort of social experiment on Maho-Tsukai's end, with us as unwitting test subjects... Lets just say that I won't be among the happiest of campers.

[Weezer]

If it turns out to be some sort of social experiment on Maho-Tsukai's end, with us as unwitting test subjects... Lets just say that I won't be among the happiest of campers.

It would fit in with the whole evil plot thing.

[grimbold]

It would fit in with the whole evil plot thing.

that would be true
or his idea fell through...

[Mauve Shirt]

Ed, is that you? :smalltongue:

I'd be interested, but I have an awesome job, so I'm not.

[Trixie]

I wonder, is that default country only thing? It would be nice if it was mentioned in the OP :P

[grimbold]

I wonder, is that default country only thing? It would be nice if it was mentioned in the OP :P


i think we;re looking way to deep into an idea that fell through 3 weeks ago
CONTINUE! :smallbiggrin:

[RndmNumGen]

Not having job issues, but I know some friends/family who might be interested...

The OP is excessively vague though.

[Karoht]

Sent him a PM. He's been posting in other threads so clearly there is activity.

[Castaras]

Clearly he's trying to gather people together to aid him in his plan to take over the world with zombie bunnies.

[grimbold]

Sent him a PM. He's been posting in other threads so clearly there is activity.

yeah i noticed that
i'm now fairly certain the idea fell through
it would be cool to know the original thought though

[Tyndmyr]

*shrug* A general job-helping thread might not be a bad idea, even if his idea never pans out.

If I could find an artist that could do WoTC level char drawings, I'd pay a bit for piece work for that. Just to have awesome art to go with classes I write up and stuff.

[grimbold]

*shrug* A general job-helping thread might not be a bad idea, even if his idea never pans out.


that
is a REALLY good idea!

[Tyndmyr]

If anyone's in the IT field, and lives near me, send me a PM. My company frequently needs people, and while I can't guarantee anything, I don't mind forwarding qualified resumes for folks.

[Maho-Tsukai]

First of all, I apologize for my absence. My old computer broke down and thus I had to buy a new one using the money I got for my birthday. So as a result I have been MIA on here for some time, but now that I got that out of the way, no this is not a social experiment. It is not some kind of troll either, and it can be done over the internet, to some extent. However, what we will do depends highly on what you all have skill-wise. Simply put, my plan is to start some form of online business, but what that business depends on what you all can do skill-wise, hence why I put this thread out to see how many people would be in need of something like this. I know that it is rather reckless of me to have a loose plan like this, but that was my point. I wanted all of you in on the planning of this operation and all of us together to figure out what direction we want to go.

Anyway, this is not the place to discuss those matters, and if you all have skype, I would like it if you could all PM me your skypes and we exchange. I also will make a forum for further discussion of this for those who may not be in the same time-zone as me for skype talk.

Again, I apologize for my absence.

[grimbold]

First of all, I apologize for my absence. My old computer broke down and thus I had to buy a new one using the money I got for my birthday. So as a result I have been MIA on here for some time, but now that I got that out of the way, no this is not a social experiment. It is not some kind of troll either, and it can be done over the internet, to some extent. However, what we will do depends highly on what you all have skill-wise. Simply put, my plan is to start some form of online business, but what that business depends on what you all can do skill-wise, hence why I put this thread out to see how many people would be in need of something like this. I know that it is rather reckless of me to have a loose plan like this, but that was my point. I wanted all of you in on the planning of this operation and all of us together to figure out what direction we want to go.

Anyway, this is not the place to discuss those matters, and if you all have skype, I would like it if you could all PM me your skypes and we exchange. I also will make a forum for further discussion of this for those who may not be in the same time-zone as me for skype talk.

Again, I apologize for my absence.

well what kind of abilities would you be looking for?
i think the playground could start a pretty awesome RPG e-book publishing house

[Maho-Tsukai]

Indeed, and that's the kind of thing I was considering. I did engage in a smaller-scale project that had eventual intent for something like that a while back but RL got in the way and it fizzled. Either way, something like that could work out, provided wanted had not only homebrewers but artists and writers who can make our work both look and sound nice, as well as people with computer skills to put the stuff all together in nicely packaged pdfs. However, such a thing would be doable and could even, potentially give Pazio some competition for the 3.x evolution market as I know that, like myself, there are people who'd like to see a more balanced evolution of 3.5e then Pazio's pathfinder.

As for skills, I was actually hoping to know what you thought you could all do and work off of that, very democratic. However, you certainly are right about the quality of some of the homebrew here and the fact it could make a pretty awesome game.

As for the national scope thing...well...my ORIGINAL idea was more absurd, but I may as well share it. My GF came up with a cure for cancer....that also can be used as a superweapon stronger then anything in the history of the world. The issue? To use it as a cancer cure, she would need access to specific data she could not find herself, meaning all she has as of now is the plans for a device that can destroy the world in one activation(which she's not willing to make due to the dangers of such a weapon.). I was hoping some of you could help us find the data she needed and then help us make a cure for cancer a reality, but I ultimately gave up on that plan because she refuses to peruse her idea due to the fact it could also be used to destroy the world despite my constantly pushing her on it. Yes, my GF is a genius....with an IQ that rivals Einstine's who the government is begging her to work for because of.(But she refuses due to having a strong dislike of the US government, like myself.)...but due to her socioeconomic status she cannot attend collage, even with scholarship money...So I was kinda pushing her to forward this project because of that.....but...yeah. She dose not want to have "blood on her hands" if things went wrong, which I understand and respect.

[Admiral Squish]

Well, homebrewer/kind of writer reporting for duty, if that's on the table. I'd LOVE to have resources like playtesting, art, brainstorming, and comprehensive review for my stuff, and I even have a partially-structured book that could be a good start. Plus, I think I have some pretty good business sense that could provide an edge here and there.

So, the original idea ACTUALLY involved mad science? (Benevolent mad science, but still) That is AWESOME.

[Tyndmyr]

I am...skeptical about the mad science stuff. Very skeptical.

That aside, I'm curious about the whole online RPG idea. What would it entail exactly, and how would it greatly differ from rpgnow.com? I'm a professional software developer, and hobbyist game designer, and thus...am somewhat interested in this. I've thought of similar things in the past, but honestly, coding time after I get home is limited. Usually I'm burned out and would rather do something else entirely.

[Maho-Tsukai]

Yes, it did. I am not kidding/trolling in that regard. She still knows exactly how to make it too, but she burned all her written work on it with a lighter without me knowing but she is fully capable of re-doing it...it would just take a bit of time. But then again, it's not my idea, it's hers. So if anybody has hard questioning regarding it PM me and I'll ask her if she's willing to give answers.

Also, yeah, if we where to make an RPG it would require the following....

-content creators(Obviously)
-writers(again, obvious)
-artists(We need our books to look pretty!)
-technical gurus/computer specialists(for assembling pdfs, running/making a website(if we have one of out own) ect..)
-administration/management(Somebody needs to keep us in line!)

Many of these positions can be combined with others; IE if your a manager, writer or artist and you have idea for content you can suggest it ect...

Also, we need to figure out if we are going to go the Pazio route and build off of 3.5e/SRD or make an entirely new system(s)...or both. If we do go the "SRD/D20-based system" I think that the best route would not be trying to be "Pathfinder, but better" but rather doing out own thing with D20. We can still go fantasy and have classes and such(we don't need to be M&M) but we should put our own spin on it, balance it better(everything around tier 3, ideally) and probably use a different desgine asthetic art-wise(Partial to full out japanese anime myself, but we could also go opposite and go for good old fashion fantasy-style art instead of the more modern pathfinder style.)

[Tengu_temp]

1. A "huzzah, let's make an online business together!" approach is bound to fail when you don't even have a good idea what kind of business to start with, and when you want to start it with what is pretty much a bunch of total strangers with nothing to back up their qualifications other than their words. You might end up losing a lot of time and money.
2. About the incredible scientific genius girlfriend... I don't believe a word. Give me some kind of proof or I'll just consider it a tall tale that you either want to sell us, or one your girlfriend sold you and you bought for some reason.

[Admiral Squish]

1. A "huzzah, let's make an online business together!" approach is bound to fail when you don't even have a good idea what kind of business to start with, and when you want to start it with what is pretty much a bunch of total strangers with nothing to back up their qualifications other than their words. You might end up losing a lot of time and money.

Well, the trick is to grow it. If you rush ahead and get funding and start printing t-shirts or whatever, yeah, you can loose money. I'm thinking we should start it as a community project of sorts. People working in their spare time towards this goal. No guarantees. If it fails, we got to work together on something awesome, and we can show off the finished product. IF the projects work out, and even turn a profit, then we start expanding cautiously. Slowly, of course, but if we can lay down a solid foundation of sorts, then we'll be that much better off when we really get going.

[Karoht]

As for the national scope thing...well...my ORIGINAL idea was more absurd, but I may as well share it. My GF came up with a cure for cancer....that also can be used as a superweapon stronger then anything in the history of the world. The issue? To use it as a cancer cure, she would need access to specific data she could not find herself, meaning all she has as of now is the plans for a device that can destroy the world in one activation(which she's not willing to make due to the dangers of such a weapon.). I was hoping some of you could help us find the data she needed and then help us make a cure for cancer a reality, but I ultimately gave up on that plan because she refuses to peruse her idea due to the fact it could also be used to destroy the world despite my constantly pushing her on it. Yes, my GF is a genius....with an IQ that rivals Einstine's who the government is begging her to work for because of.(But she refuses due to having a strong dislike of the US government, like myself.)...but due to her socioeconomic status she cannot attend collage, even with scholarship money...So I was kinda pushing her to forward this project because of that.....but...yeah. She dose not want to have "blood on her hands" if things went wrong, which I understand and respect.I had to come and re-read this part.
I get that you want to do something cool for the world, but maybe leave this detail to the side for now. I'm willing to ignore it and move on in the interest of progressing this gaming idea. I'd hate to see others ignore a perfectly good idea just because of this paragraph.


Anyway, I have experience with a similar idea, though it was more oriented around a website and not around a game. I'm interested in this part of the discussion.

[Mono Vertigo]

Well, for what it's worth, my most relevant skill here is art. :smallsmile:
Ignoring these strange paragraphs for now though. Hope I won't come to regret it.

[onthetown]

2. About the incredible scientific genius girlfriend... I don't believe a word. Give me some kind of proof or I'll just consider it a tall tale that you either want to sell us, or one your girlfriend sold you and you bought for some reason.

Yyyyeah... I hate to say it, but I kind of lol'd at the bit about your girlfriend. Telling internet friends and forum-goers that your girlfriend has an "IQ that can rival Einstine's [sic]", and that the US government is "begging" her to work for them, sounds pretty far fetched... especially when you misspell Einstein's name. But it makes a good drinking story, at any rate.

Edit: Not to mention the device that can destroy the world... And the fact that you went from said device to a small-scale publishing company started over the internet in a matter of one post... As they say, "lol".

[tensai_oni]

Questionable statements aside, I am still very disappointed in this thread. You said this is a serious thread. "Let's make an online business" is NOT a serious idea. You need to give us more than that. What is your business plan? What are you going to do to contribute to the plan's success? You don't even know what is it going to be now, except for it being online.

[Weezer]

I'm kind of with Tensai Oni, there really seems to be no substance behind this idea. The thought of starting an online company with a group of Playgrounders is a very attractive one, there is a large concentration of intelligent and creative people on this site and properly harnessed and organized I think that the Playground could produce a systematic update to 3.x that would rival Pazio's. However Maho-Tsukai doesn't seem to have an actual plan or idea in place that would work to channel the possible talent on here. You don't create a successful business by going to a group of people and saying "wouldn't it be cool if we started a business together?", you approach them and say "I want to make this and I think it'd be cool and profitable, who is with me?".

Also the whole "my super genius girlfriend created a cure for cancer that could also destroy the world thing" sounds a bit insane. Like full blown megalomania on someones part insane. I really hope you're not being serious (but I'm afraid you are).

[Maxios]

1. I'm interested. I'm good at writing RPGs and making OoTs style art. I have several ideas for RPGs; including one called The Hubworld I've been working on since last year.

2. The whole "my super genius girlfriend created a cure for cancer that could also end everything as we know it" does sound far-fetched. It took an entire team of scientists to create the nuclear bomb. It's hard to believe one person who didn't/can't go to college made something that could destroy the entire frickin' world with one activation.
Would make a good idea for a book, though.

[Tyndmyr]

Yes, it did. I am not kidding/trolling in that regard. She still knows exactly how to make it too, but she burned all her written work on it with a lighter without me knowing but she is fully capable of re-doing it...it would just take a bit of time. But then again, it's not my idea, it's hers. So if anybody has hard questioning regarding it PM me and I'll ask her if she's willing to give answers.

I don't really have any questioning...I just don't believe it. It's kind of a ridiculous story. Every single bit of it is screaming that it's entirely invented.


Also, yeah, if we where to make an RPG it would require the following....

Meh. That sounds like a lot of people for a very fuzzy idea. Note also that I consider the role of "manager" for such a project to be a pretty unnecessary one at this stage.


Also, we need to figure out if we are going to go the Pazio route and build off of 3.5e/SRD or make an entirely new system(s)...or both. If we do go the "SRD/D20-based system" I think that the best route would not be trying to be "Pathfinder, but better" but rather doing out own thing with D20. We can still go fantasy and have classes and such(we don't need to be M&M) but we should put our own spin on it, balance it better(everything around tier 3, ideally) and probably use a different desgine asthetic art-wise(Partial to full out japanese anime myself, but we could also go opposite and go for good old fashion fantasy-style art instead of the more modern pathfinder style.)

There are roughly half a million D20 knock-off games doing their own thing with D&D. I've playtested some, looked at some...but long story short, it's not really the best area to pursue. People interested in such things are mostly satisfied with some existing version of D&D or pathfinder. It's saturated. Nobody here has the money or recognition to displace WoTC.

I'm not at all against the idea of writing an RPG(got one of my own in progress), or putting together a web site, but we need a much tighter idea to actually do much of anything. As it appears you don't have a plan, really, I suggest we all toss up our skills, brainstorm through a few ideas, and see what sorts of things sound interesting to a goodly portion of people, and is realistic to accomplish with the skills we have.

I could see a market for a better version of RPGNow, that focuses more on individual storefronts in a more Etsy-like way, and possibly has tight integration with Kickstarter for people to fund their projects and publish them there. However, doing all this would require a non-trivial amount of coding time that I just don't have(why I haven't done it yet).

I feel like art is going to be a pretty critical skill in just about anything.

[Raddish]

Destroy the world in 1 activation?

Someone has found the off button for the Earth.

I am not sure the laws of physics allow a single device to instantly destroy the world. The energy requirements for that would surely be insane...

Even just to kill off the Human race and count the world as 'destroyed' would be a tall order.

[Karoht]

@Making a Plan
Well, you've polled and got some people interested. Now lets make a plan.

@Game Idea
Do we need to borrow D20? Do we want to come up with a new system? Do we just want to focus on a setting for now and try to jigger the rules around that? There is probably dozens of questions we want to answer here before we proceed.

@Tynd
That sounds rather good actually.

[H Birchgrove]

It needs to have Paladins and Barbarians.

Knights and Vikings are good alternatives.

[Maxios]

I've been working on a fantasy system lately; a point-build one where XP earned can be used to improve your skills/abilities, get perks, and get more health.
It's not a d20 knockoff, it uses percentile dice. Should we go with something like this?

[Tyndmyr]

Percentile has a few advantages. Well, traits, I should say. Some of them are fairly subjective.

1. Few dice. Some people love this, some hate it. But mostly, percentage systems use very few dice.

2. Fairly easy to understand. Roll under the number that yer skill is, and life is grand. Note however, that task difficulty modifiers can be awkward.

3. Flat distribution curve. Some like this, some hate it. *shrug* It really depends what you're trying to model. Me, I like the natural distribution off a roll and keep system, but there's a lot of subjectivity here.

[ForzaFiori]

Yyyyeah... I hate to say it, but I kind of lol'd at the bit about your girlfriend. Telling internet friends and forum-goers that your girlfriend has an "IQ that can rival Einstine's [sic]"

Considering most estimates for his IQ are around 160-170, its not that far-fetched. While smart, he was not one-of-a-kind smart. As a member of MENSA, I personally know several people with IQs either just below, equal to, or higher than what is thought to have been Einstein's.

[H Birchgrove]

Note that relatively many, or at least some among those who have an IQ of 200 or above have social issues, and some of them are idiot savants. High IQ alone isn't all what it's cracked up to be.

[grimbold]

It needs to have Paladins and Barbarians.

Knights and Vikings are good alternatives.

Vikings would be fun
*approves*

[onthetown]

Considering most estimates for his IQ are around 160-170, its not that far-fetched. While smart, he was not one-of-a-kind smart. As a member of MENSA, I personally know several people with IQs either just below, equal to, or higher than what is thought to have been Einstein's.

I know high IQ isn't a defining factor of somebody's intelligence, and that there are people who have a higher IQ than that. I was quoting it to point out the absurdity of the entire premise he gave us -- about the super genius girlfriend with the cure for cancer/weapon to destroy humanity. Saying that she's as smart or smarter than Einstein just sort of underlined how far he's stretching believability with his little story, because to the general public (read: normal people, not smart guys like us on the Playground forum) that's a very far fetched statement.

It was less about actual IQ and more about summing up just how... Jeez, I don't even know a nice way to put it beyond that. "Idiotic" is the only word I can think of that perfectly describes the entire tale he told us about the girlfriend part, with "insane" at a close second. Do people still think that everybody using the internet is completely gullible?

Edit: I don't mean to sound so harsh, on reading that again... It just annoys me to no end when people think they can throw around the most contrived stories ever heard of just because we're on the internet and that means that you don't have to prove yourself.

[Zeb The Troll]

Troll Patrol: Social experiments have a place and a purpose. These forums are not the place and threads like this don't have the purpose. This sort of screwing with your fellow posters just to see what will happen is not a social experiment, it is trolling. Calling it a social experiment is just a dodge, and a flimsy one at that.