I came out

[Nameless]

So, today I came out of the closet to my family. I sat them down and told them exactly who I really was. To be honest though, I think they already suspected, what with all the posters on my wall, the magazines under my bed and me going to all those meet-ups every month. I think they feel a little weird about it right now, but it's early days and I'm sure that in time, they'll learn to accept the fact that I'm a brony. I don't think they'll let this come between their un-conditional love for me.

At least now, I can finally ask them for the My Little Pony Season 1 DVD for Christmas. <3

[Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll]

My sister still hasn't stopped giggling since the time I first mentioned ponies.

... she got me a Pinkie Pie pinata for my birthday.

[Giggling Ghast]

You forced me to look up a thing on the Internet. My innocent mind will never be the same.

[Nameless]

My sister still hasn't stopped giggling since the time I first mentioned ponies.

... she got me a Pinkie Pie pinata for my birthday.

That's amazing. It's good to hear that there's people out there who are open minded and accept those who may be a little different. One day, my mother might be the same. :smallsmile:


You forced me to look up a thing on the Internet. My innocent mind will never be the same.

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/7/20/d373a8c9-72ca-4be9-a522-f9681eac6046.jpg

[Ravens_cry]

I ain't no bronie basher, I don't enjoy it as much as some people but I can see the appeal, but dude, "came out" is a very special phrase. It refers to a sadly very difficult process for a certain segment of the population.
Don't misuse it.

[Nameless]

I ain't no bronie basher, I don't enjoy it as much as some people but I can see the appeal, but dude, "came out" is a very special phrase. It refers to a sadly very difficult process for a certain segment of the population.
Don't misuse it.

You do realise that this was in jest... Right? :smalltongue:

[Ravens_cry]

You do realise that this was in jest... Right? :smalltongue:
You do realize some jokes aren't funny?

[Kindablue]

I ain't no bronie basher, I don't enjoy it as much as some people but I can see the appeal, but dude, "came out" is a very special phrase. It refers to a sadly very difficult process for a certain segment of the population.
Don't misuse it.
come out of the closet
1. (intransitive, idiomatic) To tell others about homosexuality, bisexuality or any minority or disapproved-of belief, preference, etc., where previously this had been kept secret.
"She finally came out of the closet to her religious family regarding her atheism."

[Ravens_cry]

Using that phrase to refer to professing ones enjoyment of a TV show is just insensitive.:smallyuk:

[Lix Lorn]

Using that phrase to refer to professing ones enjoyment of a TV show is just insensitive.:smallyuk:
I'm bi and trans and I thought it was funny.

[Kindablue]

Using that phrase to refer to professing ones enjoyment of a TV show is just insensitive.:smallyuk:

I'm glad that's decided. Could you imagine how awful the world would be if everything wasn't as clear and objective as this? :smallsmile:

[Fan]

Using that phrase to refer to professing ones enjoyment of a TV show is just insensitive.:smallyuk:

And ruthlessly dogging someone for a joke they thought people would have a lighter heart regarding isn't?

I don't support his use of the term, but that doesn't mean you have to continue riding the guy for the mistake.

[SiuiS]

I ain't no bronie basher, I don't enjoy it as much as some people but I can see the appeal, but dude, "came out" is a very special phrase. It refers to a sadly very difficult process for a certain segment of the population.
Don't misuse it.

doesn't feel like misuse. The point jato overcome adversity, Nd admit who you are as a personal sacrifice, potentially losing friends, being disowned by family, and basically having your life fall apart.

Yeah, I have seen that happen. And felt a huge sure of relief myself when I admitted it.

[Nameless]

You do realize some jokes aren't funny?

Then don't... laugh? :smallconfused:

http://mylittlefacewhen.com/media/faces/678.png

[Kneenibble]

Does this mean you can finally stop tucking your tail into your trousers?

[Ravens_cry]

OK I'll drop it. I am glad you enjoy what you enjoy.
I enjoyed Pingu growing up and damn if if that claymation critter still isn't the most adorable Antarctic avian ever to me and I don't care who knows it.
Looney Tunes and Thomas the Tank Engine are also things I loved as a child and still enjoy.

[Nameless]

Does this mean you can finally stop tucking your tail into your trousers?

Well, I'm still keeping it a secret from some people at my uni. I wear a hat to cover the ears too.


OK I'll drop it. I am glad you enjoy what you enjoy.
I enjoyed Pingu growing up and damn if if that claymation critter still isn't the most adorable Antarctic avian ever to me and I don't care who knows it.
Looney Tunes and Thomas the Tank Engine are also things I loved as a child and still enjoy.

It's was all about the Moomins for me. :smallbiggrin:

[Pokonic]

"Reads first part of response, did not remember seeing you on the LGBT roster."
"Reads further, feels a bit happy for you."
"Reads to the last part, feeling both amused and oddly cheated."

[Emperor Ing]

Welcome to the herd. :smallsmile:

[Ravens_cry]

It's was all about the Moomins for me. :smallbiggrin:
Having watched a good chunk of the anime, Moomins is . . .interesting. I think my favourite characters were the mischievous and greedy Little My and the enigmatic Snufkin.

[drakir_nosslin]

It's was all about the Moomins for me. :smallbiggrin:

The Moomins gave me nightmares, I dreamt of falling into that wizard hat and becoming a fox-creature... Woke up my sister with my crying. That's a dark and very messed up show.

[golentan]

I hope you're happy nameless. You seem to have caused the forum to develop the most bizarrely ironic case of schizophrenia ever.

...

Brony Power! (still need to watch more of that show).

[Nameless]

"Reads first part of response, did not remember seeing you on the LGBT roster."
"Reads further, feels a bit happy for you."
"Reads to the last part, feeling both amused and oddly cheated."

Will a hug make you feel better? :smallbiggrin:


The Moomins gave me nightmares, I dreamt of falling into that wizard hat and becoming a fox-creature... Woke up my sister with my crying. That's a dark and very messed up show.

I agree. But that's probebly why I liked it so much. :smallbiggrin:


I hope you're happy nameless. You seem to have caused the forum to develop the most bizarrely ironic case of schizophrenia ever.


http://i.imgur.com/9QvF1.png

[Asta Kask]

*feeds nameless a carrot*

[Traab]

Until he started complaining about how you used the whole came out thing I still assumed you had admitted your homosexuality. I thought the part about wanting the dvd was a joke, like, "Well, they accepted me being gay, requesting mlp dvds shouldnt push them over the edge."

[Gorgondantess]

...So this is about Nameless being gay, right?:smallconfused::smalltongue:

[Mutant Sheep]

This was silly, and funny, and brony of you Nameless. Very brony.:smallwink:

[Eldan]

Is that a new term for homosexuality, or am I not getting something? :smallconfused:

[Nameless]

*feeds nameless a carrot*

I don't like carrots. http://i.imgur.com/pUT8r.png


Until he started complaining about how you used the whole came out thing I still assumed you had admitted your homosexuality. I thought the part about wanting the dvd was a joke, like, "Well, they accepted me being gay, requesting mlp dvds shouldnt push them over the edge."

Confusing people makes me happy. :smallbiggrin:


This was silly, and funny, and brony of you Nameless. Very brony.:smallwink:

Hurray! What does Nameless win? :smallbiggrin:


Is that a new term for homosexuality, or am I not getting something? :smallconfused:

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgbws8Agyq1qzjqq6o1_500.jpg

[Dienekes]

Is that a new term for homosexuality, or am I not getting something? :smallconfused:

That My Little Pony Show that people seem to like for reasons I don't get. He's making a joke that he is a guy that likes the girls show and stating it in a way that draws parallels to being gay. For humor.

[CrimsonAngel]

Is that a new term for homosexuality, or am I not getting something? :smallconfused:

http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq100/lonewolf3878/mlpfimfs7.png

[Arminius]

Welcome to the herd.
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/9052/6ie6o8.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/6ie6o8.png/)

[H Birchgrove]

Am I the only one who gets peckish for salami or pastrami reading this thread? :smallamused:
I kid, have many happy times enjoying that show while being secure in your manhood gender identity. :smallwink:

[Safety Sword]

This entire thread confuses me. :smallconfused:

I suppose that's intended, however.

[Moff Chumley]

Political incorrectness? On my Giant in the Playground? It's more likely than you think. o.o

[Weezer]

This entire thread confuses me. :smallconfused:

I suppose that's intended, however.

I think this thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219858) will help make everything that much more confusing.

[Vent Reynolt]

Aww, Nameless, congratulations! I remember way back when you were first discovering that you were a brony. It was so cute seeing you swear up and down that you kept coming back to poythread just because you liked us, and not because you liked ponies or anything. Now look at you; you've gotten comfortable enough as a brony to come out to your own parents. Once again, congratulations. :smallsmile:

As for me, my parents already know that I'm a brony. I never actually came out to them; they sort of walked in on me as I was watching one of the episodes of the first season. You can imagine how awkward that was for all of us. :smalltongue:

[Safety Sword]

I think this thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219858) will help make everything that much more confusing.

I don't... I mean... I... what the hell?

Honestly, still don't get it. At all.

[Arminius]

For all the confused people out there, Bronies are fans of the tv show My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Little_Pony:_Friendship_Is_Magic). More specifically, it refers to people outside the target demographic of young girls. The show is remarkable for being a girl's cartoon that is actually good, and historically, those have been few and far between. The art is good, the storytelling is good, and the show overall is good. If you haven't seen it yet, I recommend it. It may be readily viewed on youtube, just search for something like "mlp fim" and season and episode number.

[Dusk Eclipse]

http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq100/lonewolf3878/mlpfimfs7.png

.... I really need to watch more episodes, I still can't wrap my mind around fluttershy looking anything else than shyness:smallconfused:


Oh and I might as well come out as a (recently converted) brony..this >_>
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt139/Dusk_eclipse/Pony-tar.png

Is because of her
http://troll.me/images/sky-rainbow-dash/rainbow-dash-is-the-reason-we-have-nice-things.jpg

[Arminius]

Just wait till you see her snap a bear's neck. The image is taken out of context, but cool.
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4605/fluttershyfatalitybytak.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/404/fluttershyfatalitybytak.png/)

[Dienekes]

I don't... I mean... I... what the hell?

Honestly, still don't get it. At all.

It's not all so hard. There's a show called My Little Pony. It's target audience is young girls, though supposedly the writing, voice acting, and overall production qualities are very good. So good that many people outside the target demographic enjoy it and post about it. A lot. References to it have popped up on these boards a lot over the last few months. Apparently the folks who like it call themselves bronies.

Personally, I watched a few episodes and it did just next to nothing for me. But then I've never found cute particularly funny, and this show runs on cute.

[Safety Sword]

It's not all so hard. There's a show called My Little Pony. It's target audience is young girls, though supposedly the writing, voice acting, and overall production qualities are very good. So good that many people outside the target demographic enjoy it and post about it. A lot. References to it have popped up on these boards a lot over the last few months. Apparently the folks who like it call themselves bronies.

Personally, I watched a few episodes and it did just next to nothing for me. But then I've never found cute particularly funny, and this show runs on cute.

I understand what it is now, but as you say, what I don't understand is the attraction "bronies" have for it.

But that's fine, it's all part of having all types to make the world go around.

By the way, thanks to Arminius for pointing out the Wiki article to me. The My Little Pony thread here didn't really tell me what the hell was going on. I thought it was going take some sort of twisted pony porn angle at stages and I didn't want to have to poke out my mind's eye with a very real heated poker.

[Weezer]

I don't... I mean... I... what the hell?

Honestly, still don't get it. At all.

Honestly I don't either. I tried, watched the first few episodes. It's now just yet another internet thing I know far more about than I ever wanted.

[Shyftir]

I'm pretty sure I'm more likely to mock/hate on somebody for being a brony than being gay, so this probably did require some courage...

[missmvicious]

Honestly I'm also more likely to make fun of Bronies then homos, but my best friend since high school is a brony, so it would have been wrong if I hadn't poked fun at him. His younger brother (also my friend) got him into it and months later we pranked him by saying that the whole thing about the younger brother liking the show was just a lark. That caused much hilarity.

I actually just started watching the show yesterday. My brony friend baby sat for me really really last minute on saturday so I could do a zombie bar crawl with my roller derby team. When I got back the only two things we really talked about were D&D and my little pony. I figured as my special way of saying thanks I would finally check out what all the whoo haw was about. I am led to believe that there are many references to many nerdy things but I am not really picking up on that yet. Over all I put the show into the "cute" category, but for over all pick me ups I am more a Ruby Gloom fan.

Though my friend explained that he thought most people were kinda a mix of 2 of the main ponies and he said that I was Rainbow Dash and Rarity.
So now I am Rarity Rainbow. And we decided that my hubby was Jack Twilight. lol

[SDF]

At least the herd is useful
http://www.adhesive.com/catImages/adhesive/L/g1/G1_family_L.jpg

[ghost_warlock]

http://i.imgur.com/9QvF1.png
Derpy Dash is best Dash.
That is all.

[Nameless]

Welcome to the herd.
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/9052/6ie6o8.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/6ie6o8.png/)

Oh, that happened to me a while ago. I just thought my family had to know the real me, you know? :smallwink:



Aww, Nameless, congratulations! I remember way back when you were first discovering that you were a brony. It was so cute seeing you swear up and down that you kept coming back to poythread just because you liked us, and not because you liked ponies or anything. Now look at you; you've gotten comfortable enough as a brony to come out to your own parents. Once again, congratulations. :smallsmile:

As for me, my parents already know that I'm a brony. I never actually came out to them; they sort of walked in on me as I was watching one of the episodes of the first season. You can imagine how awkward that was for all of us. :smalltongue:

Yes, it's been a long hard road for me. :smalltongue:
However, I'm still quite sane, hehehe http://i.imgur.com/9QvF1.png I think.

Wow, that must've been very awkward. :3


Apparently the folks who like it call themselves bronies.


Actually, if I could be serious for just one second; I don't like that term at all. I dislike being given labels for being a fan of something. However, my desire to make a funny overwhelmed that dislike. :smallwink:

[dehro]

I was going to go all redneckish and ignorant on your behind...
but it's not really me.


even so...

I seriously don't get the mylittlepony love

..I just don't :smallfrown:
..why don't I get it?:smallfrown::smallfrown:
honest, I've even tried reading the *insert high numeral*thread devoted to it...but I'm missing 101% of all references, making me feel stooopid

[Dexam]

I was going to go all redneckish and ignorant on your behind...
but it's not really me.


even so...

I seriously don't get the mylittlepony love

..I just don't :smallfrown:
..why don't I get it?:smallfrown::smallfrown:
honest, I've even tried reading the *insert high numeral*thread devoted to it...but I'm missing 101% of all references, making me feel stooopid

I think you may going about this the wrong way... I think this is probably a good way to go about it:

1. Watch the show, but on your own terms. Don't feel forced, but you'll probably need to watch at least several episodes before you start to "get it". Apart from the first two episodes of each season, the episodes are pretty much stand-alone slice-of-life, so you can watch them in any order.

2. If you still don't "get it", that's fine. The show isn't for everybody.

3. If you do "get it", watch all the episodes. All of them.

4. If you feel like getting involved in the fandom, jump into the Ponythread as little or as much as you want. If there's any fandom references/memes that you don't understand (and there are a lot of them), don't be afraid or feel stupid to ask - we don't bite (caveat: however there is a fair bit of shipping and the occassional light bondage :smallwink:). Let us know what you're interested in - the brony community has a sizeable pool of talent, and there's all sorts of pony-related art, music, role-playing, and games we can direct you towards.

And that's pretty much all there is to it.
http://i.imgur.com/JmPL5.png

[Asta Kask]

I think it's against nature. We don't see pastel-colored horses running around our fields, now do we? I just don't think it's right.

[Serpentine]

I bought My Little Pony biscuits.
I'ma go nom them now :I

[TheCountAlucard]

I think it's against nature. We don't see pastel-colored horses running around our fields, now do we? I just don't think it's right.You, sir, seem to be watching the wrong fields. :smallamused:


I bought My Little Pony biscuits.
I'ma go nom them now :IPictures plz. :smalltongue:

[Asta Kask]

Obscurus Lupa Presents (http://blip.tv/OLPresents/mlpfinished-5465026) - The Princess Promenade.

[grimbold]

people are still making fun of me from when i came out at school :smallwink:

[Serpentine]

The things on the right:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5304/5738550059_0025648eac.jpgThey're not very tasty :C

[TheCountAlucard]

The things on the right... They're not very tastyThat's disappointing. :smallsigh: Though not surprising.

[grimbold]

The things on the right:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5304/5738550059_0025648eac.jpgThey're not very tasty :C

thats... horribly sad

[grimbold]

The things on the right:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5304/5738550059_0025648eac.jpgThey're not very tasty :C

thats... horribly sad

[Asta Kask]

Disappointment... so sad they told us twice...

[Serpentine]

Indeed :smallfrown:

Indeed :smallfrown:

[Nameless]

The things on the right:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5304/5738550059_0025648eac.jpgThey're not very tasty :C

I must taste them for myself. Send me some in the post. NAU.

[Asta Kask]

Anyway, I think it's ok for people to watch MLP at home but broadcasting it on the streets - like, wearing t-shirts? So the children can see that there are bronies? That's just not right.


I must taste them for myself. Send me some in the post. NAU.

She can being them on her world tour.

[H Birchgrove]

Those type of crackers (based on cartoons and comics) are usually of bad quality with horrid amounts of trans fats in them.

I suggest you bake ginger cookies and/or saffron buns shaped like ponies instead. Maybe you could post photos of them here later.

[Heliomance]

I think this thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219858) will help make everything that much more confusing.

Holy crap, how fast does that thread move? Significantly faster than the average RB, it looks like.

[Serpentine]

Eeeeh. They've got kinda a weird aftertaste thing goin' on there. Which is a shame, cuz those little butterfly and pony biccies are really cute :smallfrown:

[Nameless]

Holy crap, how fast does that thread move? Significantly faster than the average RB, it looks like.

Yeah, I tend to lurk most of the time now. I'd feel a bit awkward butting in on random conversations.


Eeeeh. They've got kinda a weird aftertaste thing goin' on there. Which is a shame, cuz those little butterfly and pony biccies are really cute :smallfrown:

Can I at least have the bag it came in? http://i.imgur.com/9QvF1.png

[Thanqol]

Ewww, you like ponies? Weirdo. ;)

[Tonal Architect]

Some people seem to be getting a rather Perfumish (as in the novel) vibe going... Either that, or it's their subconcious trying to emerge, urging them to tear the overly-cutish equestrian depictions with their very teeth, if they must.

[Dexam]

They're not very tasty :C

I'm thinking that's because they're G3 Pony biscuits.


Eeeeh. They've got kinda a weird aftertaste thing goin' on there.

Much like G3 My Little Pony.

Zing! :smallwink:



Ewww, you like ponies? Weirdo. ;)

I know, right?

[H Birchgrove]

Ewww, you like ponies? Weirdo. ;)

The meat is tender. :smalltongue:

[Serpentine]

This is relevant. (http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/wacky-edibles/e5a7/)

[H Birchgrove]

This is relevant. (http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/wacky-edibles/e5a7/)

Tastes like chicken spam sprinkled with rainbows and the guilt of doing something unholy.

[Vent Reynolt]

This is relevant. (http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/wacky-edibles/e5a7/)

This is also relevant. (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=16625)

[Asta Kask]

Ewww, you like ponies? Weirdo. ;)

In GURPS, the Animal Empathy advantage allows you to use Sex Appeal on a pony.

I'm just sayin'.

[Nameless]

This thread is making me hungry. ._.

[Dexam]

In GURPS, the Animal Empathy advantage allows you to use Sex Appeal on a pony.

I'm just sayin'.


This thread is making me hungry. ._.

... The proximity of these two posts amuse me.

Also, in Soviet Equestria, ponies use Sex Appeal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FLCXoURSV0) on you! :smallwink:

(Totally work safe, but why you'd be watching it at work I don't know.)

[Heliomance]

It may be safe for work, but it's not safe for brain O_o

[irenicObserver]

I think Nameless started some sort of mini-thread. Couldn't he have came out in the thread and leave everyone safely able to ignore the bronies?

[Nameless]

I think Nameless started some sort of mini-thread. Couldn't he have came out in the thread and leave everyone safely able to ignore the bronies?

Thread merge/close in 3...2...

[Lix Lorn]

Let's just make this the official Nameless Fangirl thread. It'd save PAGES in several other threads.

[golentan]

Let's just make this the official Nameless Fangirl thread. It'd save PAGES in several other threads.

I will totally be nameless' fangirl. Nameless is amazing.


... The proximity of these two posts amuse me.

Also, in Soviet Equestria, ponies use Sex Appeal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FLCXoURSV0) on you! :smallwink:

(Totally work safe, but why you'd be watching it at work I don't know.)

I feel dirty.

[Lix Lorn]

I will totally be nameless' fangirl. Nameless is amazing.
See? :smalltongue:

[Janus]

I don't have anything against MLP (I've grown past the stage of "I have to either love or vehemently hate things! No middle ground!"), but I do get tired of my dA notices filling up with pony pictures made in GMod (and usually just haphazardly thrown together in gm_flatgrass or construct).
*walks off grumbling*


At least the herd is useful
http://www.adhesive.com/catImages/adhesive/L/g1/G1_family_L.jpg
:smallbiggrin:
That made me laugh out loud. Nice one!
+1 Internet


(the occassional light bondage :smallwink:)

In GURPS, the Animal Empathy advantage allows you to use Sex Appeal on a pony.

I'm just sayin'.
What.

[Asta Kask]

Yes. It was recently described as not luring the animal to have sex with you, but rather luring the animal to do something with the hint of sex. A woman who uses her cleavage to get a price reduction is not trying to get the man to have sex with her - she is using sex as a lure to get something she wants. That's Sex Appeal.

But it sounds much funnier when you just say it like I did.

[Janus]

Great, now I have to resist the temptation to use that in a pbp when my paladin first summons his celestial mount.

"Horse, if you serve me well in battle, I shall reveal unto you my bajillion ab muscles."

[Nameless]

... The proximity of these two posts amuse me.

Also, in Soviet Equestria, ponies use Sex Appeal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FLCXoURSV0) on you! :smallwink:

(Totally work safe, but why you'd be watching it at work I don't know.)

Y U SEXUALISE MY PONYZ!? /)_(\


Let's just make this the official Nameless Fangirl thread. It'd save PAGES in several other threads.



I will totally be nameless' fangirl. Nameless is amazing.

D'aw, I feel honoured and don't find the prospect of this scary at all. :smallredface:

[Traab]

Y U SEXUALISE MY PONYZ!? /)_(\






D'aw, I feel honoured and don't find the prospect of this scary at all. :smallredface:

How can you NOT sexualize them?! RAWR!

[grimbold]

Anyway, I think it's ok for people to watch MLP at home but broadcasting it on the streets - like, wearing t-shirts? So the children can see that there are bronies? That's just not right.


you dont want to spread the herd?

[Vent Reynolt]

Let's just make this the official Nameless Fangirl thread. It'd save PAGES in several other threads.

Oh, I guess I'll just let myself out then. Since I guess Nameless fanboys aren't welcome here. :smallfrown:... :smalltongue:

[Nameless]

Oh, I guess I'll just let myself out then. Since I guess Nameless fanboys aren't welcome here. :smallfrown:... :smalltongue:

Everybody is welcome in Namelessland. *hug*

[Lix Lorn]

Oh, I guess I'll just let myself out then. Since I guess Nameless fanboys aren't welcome here. :smallfrown:... :smalltongue:
In Lix's dictionary, fangirl is a gender neutral term. :smalltongue:

[Nameless]

How can you NOT sexualize them?! RAWR!

Because they're cute and happy and innocent. :smallfrown:

Also because they're ponies.

[Lix Lorn]

Because they're cute and happy and innocent. :smallfrown:

Also because they're ponies.
Ahh, I remember that part of my ponisity...

[Mutant Sheep]

Because they're cute and happy and innocent. :smallfrown:

Also because they're ponies.

Yes. I almost became a brony. But the community creeps me out. Just... why?:smallconfused: Its a pony...

[Nameless]

Yes. I almost became a brony. But the community creeps me out. Just... why?:smallconfused: Its a pony...

Well, to be perfectly honest, almost any show with a cult following or a large fanbase has this sort of thing. Pokemon and Harry Potter are pretty good examples. But, whatever, each to there own I suppose. I just avoid it.

[H Birchgrove]

Random nonsense:

Ponies: "Do you declare war upon Equestria?"

Daleks: "This is not war! THIS IS PEST CONTROL!"

Inspired by Dr Who (http://youtu.be/qu1_AguulJ8).

:smallwink:

(I would like to see a Ponies vs. Daleks fight. Should I make a thread or would anyone else have the honour? :smallbiggrin: )

[Halna LeGavilk]

Don't come out with cameras... whatever you do, DON'T COME OUT WITH CAMERAS!

http://flankbook.amscpu.com/gallery3/var/albums/Pony-Crossovers/1209%20-%20crossover%20Slenderman%20slendermane.jpg?m=1305 790041

[Starwulf]

Stop corrupting our youth, you evil, vile, DESPICABLE pony lovers!

On a more serious note, I really don't understand the love for this show. My 3 y/o daughter watches the show in the afternoon when it comes on, and as such, I'm usually in proximity to hear it, and having heard/seen several episodes, it just seems....weird. All to colorful and sunshiney for my tastes.

I liked the Ursa Minor/Major episode though, just for the bear, but beyond that...ehh.

[Lord Raziere]

Random nonsense:

Ponies: "Do you declare war upon Equestria?"

Daleks: "This is not war! THIS IS PEST CONTROL!"

Inspired by Dr Who (http://youtu.be/qu1_AguulJ8).

:smallwink:

(I would like to see a Ponies vs. Daleks fight. Should I make a thread or would anyone else have the honour? :smallbiggrin: )

I actually thought about a Ponies vs Dalek fight.

its very depressing because:

the Daleks, are intolerance and racism incarnate. they literally become sick and die when they feel any emotion other than hatred-which only happened because the Dalek had to absorb energy to repower itself-, their entire race's technology is equal to that of the time lords, their only goal is to kill everything that is not them, even the Doctor, a pacifist recognizes that the only way to deal with them is to destroy them all. any and all negotiation attempts automatically fail, the Daleks have no better nature, there is amount of lecturing, staring, or anything peaceful or otherwise nonviolent that can be done about them.
the ponies would lose, I'm sorry, that is just the truth. the only way they win is if Doctor Whoof comes along and destroys them all with his Pony-TARDIS and thus defying MLP's message of peace and tolerance, which means they still lose, only worse because it is a moral failing. Any confrontation between them is a "Failure is the Only Option" Scenario.

so let me save you some time: Ponies lose, Daleks are space nazis who physically can't think outside their eternal state of hate and rage and will only kill ponies as soon as they them, no need to make a thread.

[Arminius]

I actually thought about a Ponies vs Dalek fight.

its very depressing because:

the Daleks, are intolerance and racism incarnate. they literally become sick and die when they feel any emotion other than hatred-which only happened because the Dalek had to absorb energy to repower itself-, their entire race's technology is equal to that of the time lords, their only goal is to kill everything that is not them, even the Doctor, a pacifist recognizes that the only way to deal with them is to destroy them all. any and all negotiation attempts automatically fail, the Daleks have no better nature, there is amount of lecturing, staring, or anything peaceful or otherwise nonviolent that can be done about them.
the ponies would lose, I'm sorry, that is just the truth. the only way they win is if Doctor Whoof comes along and destroys them all with his Pony-TARDIS and thus defying MLP's message of peace and tolerance, which means they still lose, only worse because it is a moral failing. Any confrontation between them is a "Failure is the Only Option" Scenario.

so let me save you some time: Ponies lose, Daleks are space nazis who physically can't think outside their eternal state of hate and rage and will only kill ponies as soon as they them, no need to make a thread.
Dr. Whooves would stop them. As to the moral defeat, I'm not sure Equestria is quite as nice as it seems. Princess Celestia is the same pony who imprisoned her own sister in the moon for a 1000 years. It might sound better than death, but think about it, you are basically in solitary confinement for a millenia, with nothing to read, no one to talk to, nothing but your own thoughts. It sounds like a rather nasty form of psychological torture. Same for Discord, he was turned into stone for even longer, and in fact commented that it is a level of cruelty which even he doesn't stoop to. Death is obviously too easy a punishment for daring to defy Princess Celestia. She will not be satisfied until her enemy's will to resist is utterly crushed. It is also apparent that Equestria is highly expansionist, invading Buffalo territory and setting up a town and orchard without even considering the rights and traditions of the natives. The only reason it didn't turn into a full scale war was sheer luck. The Daleks wouldn't know what hit them, and given Princess Celestia's proclivities, will be fortunate if they are killed in the conflict.*



*This is all based of course on what the enemies of our Glorious Princess, may She reign forever, would say. Only the most vile, evil monsters would dare question Her wisdom, beneficence, and inherent righteousness. It brings me pain to even speak such lies, and I only do so to expose them to Celestial Light of truth. (Please don't send me to the moon:smalleek:)

[Dienekes]

Random nonsense:

Ponies: "Do you declare war upon Equestria?"

Daleks: "This is not war! THIS IS PEST CONTROL!"

Inspired by Dr Who (http://youtu.be/qu1_AguulJ8).

:smallwink:

(I would like to see a Ponies vs. Daleks fight. Should I make a thread or would anyone else have the honour? :smallbiggrin: )

I would watch this, and I would laugh heartily.

Exterminate
Exterminate!
EXTERMINATE!

[golentan]

But Lord Raz, ponies have magic. And magic is friendship by the symmetric property. And friendship causes daleks to die, as you yourself pointed out.

So...
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/300/1/c/mlp__friendship_is_lethal_by_golentan-d4e5rnk.jpg

...

Call it a tie?

[Lord Raziere]

uh, no thats not how it works.

the Dalek only died because it didn't have enough power to power its systems, keep in mind, a lone, desperate Dalek that had no other sources of power.
meaning when Rose touched the Dalek, it was basically resorting to the very last thing it could do to power itself you see? and that this was a single opportunity, a single window when a human could actually a Dalek and not die because of super-Dalek killing tech.

and even when the power was absorbed from Rose, the Dalek lived long enough to kill almost everyone in the facility, learn the entire internet in seconds and if it didn't commit suicide, it probably could've proceeded to easily find the nuclear launch codes and destroy everyone on the planet before its sickness killed it.

and furthermore, this was only because Rose, the human in question had traveled through time before and therefore had powerful temporal energy on her most of the energy the Dalek gained was from that, the touch just happened to include her DNA, normally? the Dalek has lots of powerful, a super-force-field on and such.

so no, the Daleks would win, the episode in which the death by other emotions than hate thing was a single one time thing that probably couldn't ever again because of the vast improbable circumstances that took to make it possible, and even then the Dalek could've won.

and that is just a single Dalek, a single sick Dalek.

[Traab]

Care bears, on the other hand, would SLAUGHTER the daleks. That power of theres is truly lethal to the daleks. Assuming that they dont just travel to the sun, blow it up, and have the supernova obliterate their care bear world of course.

[Dienekes]

But Lord Raz, ponies have magic. And magic is friendship by the symmetric property. And friendship causes daleks to die, as you yourself pointed out.

So...
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/300/1/c/mlp__friendship_is_lethal_by_golentan-d4e5rnk.jpg

...

Call it a tie?

TiE? DaLekS do Not understand the ConcEpt of TiE!

The ponies will be EXTERMINATED!

[factotum]

it probably could've proceeded to easily find the nuclear launch codes and destroy everyone on the planet before its sickness killed it.


The Dalek wasn't actually sick. When it referred to itself has having a "sickness" near the end of the programme, it meant the taint of human DNA it had picked up from Rose--such a thing would be anathema to a Dalek, who are very big on racial purity. That's why it committed suicide rather than going on a killing spree.

[Vent Reynolt]

Everybody is welcome in Namelessland. *hug*


In Lix's dictionary, fangirl is a gender neutral term. :smalltongue:

Hooray! *hugs* :smallbiggrin:

Edit: Why is this thread now about Daleks vs. Ponies? Obviously, ponies would win because they have access to two things that Daleks will never have a defense or offense against: Magic, and Cartoon Physics. :smalltongue:

[Lord Raziere]

The Dalek wasn't actually sick. When it referred to itself has having a "sickness" near the end of the programme, it meant the taint of human DNA it had picked up from Rose--such a thing would be anathema to a Dalek, who are very big on racial purity. That's why it committed suicide rather than going on a killing spree.

oh….

all the more reason why the ponies would lose then, thanks for clearing that up.

[Mystic Muse]

*Sigh*

Ponies and Daleks would never meet up because the world of MLP is too happy for such a meetup to occur.

It's the same with any "Ponies vs. attempt to make the setting more Grim and Dark" thing such as the "Ponies versus Xenomorphs" thread in the media forum. It doesn't happen because the entire concept is opposite to the point of ponies. Sort of like a Sociopath or complete monster going up against the Care Bears.

I'm not saying you can't like matchups like that, consider them, or consider certain fictions canon based off of that. Just that, given the normal setting, it wouldn't happen because it completely defeats the purpose.

Though, I agree with Raziere despite never having seen an episode of Dr. Who with Daleks in it. If they're as bad as she says, Daleks win easy.

[Nameless]

Edit: Why is this thread now about Daleks vs. Ponies?

I don't... know... http://i.imgur.com/BsGGR.png

[Asta Kask]

Because they're cute and happy and innocent. :smallfrown:

Also because they're ponies.

Man claims prostitute turned into donkey. (http://news.yahoo.com/zimbabwean-man-claims-prostitute-turned-donkey-report-161016208.html)

Now, if a prostitute can turn into a donkey, why not into a pony? It's just common sense.

[H Birchgrove]

I don't... know... http://i.imgur.com/BsGGR.png

I conspired to make Equestria buy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0399295/) weapons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Broken_Ear).

Muw haw haw haw! *twirls moustache*

PS. There's a sale on 40 watt plasma rifles (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088247/), if you're interested.

[Nameless]

Man claims prostitute turned into donkey. (http://news.yahoo.com/zimbabwean-man-claims-prostitute-turned-donkey-report-161016208.html)

Now, if a prostitute can turn into a donkey, why not into a pony? It's just common sense.

Well, know it all makes PERFECT sense! :D


I conspired to make Equestria buy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0399295/) weapons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Broken_Ear).

Muw haw haw haw! *twirls moustache*

PS. There's a sale on 40 watt plasma rifles (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088247/), if you're interested.

I see it now, ponie armies marching in Space Marine armour. :smalltongue:

[Lix Lorn]

I see it now, ponie armies marching in Space Marine armour. :smalltongue:
Been done. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12111845#post12111845):smalltongu e:

[Nameless]

Been done. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12111845#post12111845):smalltongu e:

Oh, Playground. You so silly. :smalltongue:

Well, great minds think alike. :smallbiggrin:

[The Succubus]

I've never herd of this My Little Pony thing.

[Nameless]

I've never herd of this My Little Pony thing.

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/www.ign.com/5287/2011/02/shocked-600x415.jpg

[Whiffet]

I've never herd of this My Little Pony thing.

"Herd"? Was that an intentional pun?

[TheCountAlucard]

On the Internet, I always assume all puns were intentional, especially when they say, "No pun intended." :smalltongue:

[Atreyu the Masked LLama]

Congrats, Nameless! I'm glad it went well.

[grimbold]

On the Internet, I always assume all puns were intentional, especially when they say, "No pun intended." :smalltongue:

we're all mad here :smallwink:

[Nameless]

we're all mad here :smallwink:

http://akamai-marketing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/ALice-in-Wonderland-Cheshire-Cat.jpg


Congrats, Nameless! I'm glad it went well.

Perhaps one day, they will also join the herd. :smalltongue:



Disclaimer: The whole "me coming out" thing never actually happened. I think some people here/on Facebook might of have taken it seriously, it's a little hard to tell on social networking sites sometimes. :3

[Asta Kask]

Disclaimer: The whole "me coming out" thing never actually happened. I think some people here/on Facebook might of have taken it seriously, it's a little hard to tell on social networking sites sometimes. :3

So... you're still in the closet, then? How much longer can you conceal your bronyness behind a lie?

[Nameless]

So... you're still in the closet, then? How much longer can you conceal your bronyness behind a lie?

I'm just not ready to come out about this yet. ._.

[Traab]

Dont worry about it. The worst that could happen is they disown you, kill you, then bury you in the basement.

[Strife Warzeal]

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l490/Strife_Warzeal/Chesiretwilight.png
We're all mad here


Fixed that for you!:smallbiggrin: Too lazy to take the time to add in the words to the picture itself, program wouldn't cooperate either.

I have actually "came out" to my parents about the show, no big deal. They didn't mind, life moves on.

[Kindablue]

*Sigh*

Ponies and Daleks would never meet up because the world of MLP is too happy for such a meetup to occur.

It's the same with any "Ponies vs. attempt to make the setting more Grim and Dark" thing such as the "Ponies versus Xenomorphs" thread in the media forum. It doesn't happen because the entire concept is opposite to the point of ponies. Sort of like a Sociopath or complete monster going up against the Care Bears.

I'm not saying you can't like matchups like that, consider them, or consider certain fictions canon based off of that. Just that, given the normal setting, it wouldn't happen because it completely defeats the purpose.

Though, I agree with Raziere despite never having seen an episode of Dr. Who with Daleks in it. If they're as bad as she says, Daleks win easy.

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkgcd4egwX1qgex26o1_500.png

That's pretty much how it would go down.

ETA:

Perhaps one day, they will also join the herd. :smalltongue:

And here it is. Out in the open. The Brony Agenda. Trying to push honest, hardworking humans into their sick, equine lifestyle. Well I won't stand for it! :smallmad:

[Lord Raziere]

And then the Dalek completely ignores everything set up, shoots Pinkie Pie, Pinkie Pie dies in one shot, then the Dalek continues on its merry way exterminating the rest of Ponyville, followed by going to the capital, killing everyone there, then proceeding to kill everyone else in the world.

why? because that is all it can ever see itself doing ever. it is literally bio-genetically designed to:
1. Hate everyone that is not a Dalek
2. follow its default order "Kill everything not a Dalek"

aside from that, it has no other emotions, no other goals, no other purpose. It has no way to understand "compromise" "tolerance" "kindness" anything other than "HATE EVERYTHING NOT DALEK" and "KILL EVERYTHING I HATE".

They are mutually incompatible worlds. Stop trying to put them together. it will never work. All Daleks kill, There are no Daleks that do anything else.
Think of them as Yozis whose entire first excellency is "Kill everything that is not me." whose urge is "kill everything that is not me" whose entire charm set is about, take a wild guess.

sorry for prolonging this discussion.

[Dienekes]

And then the Dalek completely ignores everything set up, shoots Pinkie Pie, Pinkie Pie dies in one shot, then the Dalek continues on its merry way exterminating the rest of Ponyville, followed by going to the capital, killing everyone there, then proceeding to kill everyone else in the world.

Can we make this into a picture?


why? because that is all it can ever see itself doing ever. it is literally bio-genetically designed to:
1. Hate everyone that is not a Dalek
2. follow its default order "Kill everything not a Dalek"

aside from that, it has no other emotions, no other goals, no other purpose. It has no way to understand "compromise" "tolerance" "kindness" anything other than "HATE EVERYTHING NOT DALEK" and "KILL EVERYTHING I HATE".

They are mutually incompatible worlds. Stop trying to put them together. it will never work. All Daleks kill, There are no Daleks that do anything else.
Think of them as Yozis whose entire first excellency is "Kill everything that is not me." whose urge is "kill everything that is not me" whose entire charm set is about, take a wild guess.

sorry for prolonging this discussion.

I don't exactly see how they're exactly incompatible. I bet the Daleks destroyed a world of peace before. Unless in the Pony Universe everything is inherently happy and friendshipy without adversity, which I don't believe is the case.

[tcrudisi]

And then the Dalek completely ignores everything set up, shoots Pinkie Pie, Pinkie Pie dies in one shot, ...

Yeah, uh, no. Have you seen Pinkie Pie? In that episode where the wizard pony was trying to keep a secret, Pinkie Pie displayed an ability to move infinitely fast, hide better than any other living creature, and intimidate anyone into submission. I'd bet on her to win any day.


, then the Dalek continues on its merry way exterminating the rest of Ponyville

And look! You even admit that Pinkie Pie would win! :smalltongue:

[Lord Raziere]

Pinkie Pie is the most annoying pony on the show and she is nothing but a joke. I don't care for her. If a Dalek came along and shot her, I'd cheer. all her "powers" are nothing but gags and jokes, they don't actually count, and she is the worst thing about the show.

and no! that isn't pinkie pie winning! that is a figure of speech! take the Daleks seriously please, they are not joke. they are not anything that can be laughed away or stared off, or negotiated or anything. There is only one reliable way to get rid of a Dalek: grab a super-advanced laser gun, point it at Dalek, shoot.

your stupid pinkie pie, is nothing but an unarmed pony who thinks she can solve everything with parties. Daleks however are from a realer world. and in the real world? the super-nazis win against unarmed happy-go-lucky civilian hedonists.

or do you think when super-racist invaders come and attack your home, that you are going to sing them away? yea, good luck with that.

the only real way for ponies to win- is to create a world where it isn't possible for Daleks to ever be created ok? cause one shot is all it takes to shatter the world of ponies and drive it into war and chaos. one bullet fired, and no one would ever be a pony again, so the only solution is to keep building, be vigilant that there is no possibility of a dalek to ever exist ever. the very existence of a Dalek is failure, the fact that they were created is failure, if Daleks never exist ever again, then that will be success and only then will the ponies be victorious.

[Kindablue]

take the Daleks seriously please, they are not joke. they are not anything that can be laughed away
The upside down trashcans with plungers glued to the front who move like a World War One tank that's constantly getting stuck in the mud and talk like Conrad Veidt after a throat surgery that went horribly, horribly wrong and took away his ability to control the volume of his voice? Those Daleks? There's nothing funny about those Daleks?

[Lord Raziere]

I have only watched the Nu Who Daleks.

I am sorry if I am being over-serious or whatever, but the Daleks I know are super-villains who are one of the veeeeeeerry few things that actually scare me. To know that I would stand zero chance against one of those things and that the only reason they care for anyone is because they hate us all completely and want nothing but our destruction….thats true fear to me. a threat that I can do nothing about, that hates me with every inch of its being, and so wants me destroyed.

[Kindablue]

I have only watched the Nu Who Daleks.

I am sorry if I am being over-serious or whatever, but the Daleks I know are super-villains who are one of the veeeeeeerry few things that actually scare me. To know that I would stand zero chance against one of those things and that the only reason they care for anyone is because they hate us all completely and want nothing but our destruction….thats true fear to me. a threat that I can do nothing about, that hates me with every inch of its being, and so wants me destroyed.

Oh, well those are different. They can hover. The final bulwark against the horrors of outer darkness (stairs) is useless against them!

[Dienekes]

The upside down trashcans with plungers glued to the front who move like a World War One tank that's constantly getting stuck in the mud and talk like Conrad Veidt after a throat surgery that went horribly, horribly wrong and took away his ability to control the volume of his voice? Those Daleks? There's nothing funny about those Daleks?

Yeah, those Daleks. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgZzCrpqT5E)

Also, Daleks could hover in Old Who as well.

[Kindablue]

Also, Daleks could hover in Old Who as well.

I've seen a bit of it, and I don't remember that. They certainly didn't fly around in massive screaming swarms like they do in the revival, but that's more a budget limitation than an actually part of their design, obviously.

[Serpentine]

Why is the assumption that the options are either "death to all ponies", "death to all Daleks", or "Daleks join the ponies in happy rainbow fun-times and become bffs4eva"? :smallconfused:
I see it going this way: the Daleks come along and, as is their wont, attempt to exterminate everything. The ponies at first try to befriend them, but eventually realise they're irredeemable. So, using the Magic of Friendship and Wuv, they cast the Daleks to some inescapable, saccarine prison that the ponies think is a nice, pleasant safe place for them to be, much better than killing them (after all, even if they could, they wouldn't), but which is actual a living Hell for the Daleks themselves.
See also: the fate of David in Animorphs, those dudes in Superman, most of the villains in Batman.

[Lord Raziere]

Assuming of course, that all of the Mane Six survive the initial assault of the Daleks, since the Daleks like to fly down on things, Rainbow Dash would probably die first since she would fly up to meet them in battle, thus rendering the elements of harmony useless since she wouldn't be around to complete the set. mostly because lasers travel at the speed of light and I doubt Rainbow Dash can fly that fast to dodge them.

as for Twilight, Celestia or Luna trying to use magic on them…that depends on the circumstances. the Daleks are smart enough to attack the major population centers and figure out who is the leader and such, they would probably go for Equestria's capital first. Luna and Celestia would probably be the first to get killed.

assuming that Twilight is only possible magic option left….well from there, it depends on how fast she can think up a workable solution and apply in time before all of Equestria is killed, which might be doubtable, because her mentor would probably be the first to get killed meaning she might go into complete despair.

Sorry. :smallfrown:

However….worst case scenario, Twilight in despair might do the unthinkable and unleash Discord who would basically start reality-warping everything out of control….but then again that might be worse than the Daleks…..and I doubt that Twilight could actually seal a deal with Discord….he is known to lie and not play by any rules….but he probably would deal with the Daleks in some manner….

[Fan]

Pinkie Pie is the most annoying pony on the show and she is nothing but a joke. I don't care for her. If a Dalek came along and shot her, I'd cheer. all her "powers" are nothing but gags and jokes, they don't actually count, and she is the worst thing about the show.

and no! that isn't pinkie pie winning! that is a figure of speech! take the Daleks seriously please, they are not joke. they are not anything that can be laughed away or stared off, or negotiated or anything. There is only one reliable way to get rid of a Dalek: grab a super-advanced laser gun, point it at Dalek, shoot.

your stupid pinkie pie, is nothing but an unarmed pony who thinks she can solve everything with parties. Daleks however are from a realer world. and in the real world? the super-nazis win against unarmed happy-go-lucky civilian hedonists.

or do you think when super-racist invaders come and attack your home, that you are going to sing them away? yea, good luck with that.

the only real way for ponies to win- is to create a world where it isn't possible for Daleks to ever be created ok? cause one shot is all it takes to shatter the world of ponies and drive it into war and chaos. one bullet fired, and no one would ever be a pony again, so the only solution is to keep building, be vigilant that there is no possibility of a dalek to ever exist ever. the very existence of a Dalek is failure, the fact that they were created is failure, if Daleks never exist ever again, then that will be success and only then will the ponies be victorious.

Really?

Cause I think you need to..

*sunglasses*

Giggle at the Ghostly. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrPte1uijDw&feature=related)

YEEEEEEEAAAH!

Seriously though, if you're putting PONIES in a versus scenario.. you're doing it wrong.

[Kindablue]

Assuming of course, that all of the Mane Six survive the initial assault of the Daleks, since the Daleks like to fly down on things, Rainbow Dash would probably die first since she would fly up to meet them in battle, thus rendering the elements of harmony useless since she wouldn't be around to complete the set. mostly because lasers travel at the speed of light and I doubt Rainbow Dash can fly that fast to dodge them.
Then Spike could be the new Rainbow Dash.

[Moff Chumley]

Then Spike could be the new Rainbow Dash.

As the prophecies foretold.

[Lord Raziere]

Seriously though, if you're putting PONIES in a versus scenario.. you're doing it wrong.

Which is exactly my point. the ponies are all about tolerance and peace. completely different world from versus stuff. the only way they win is a world where versus stuff is never created in the first place. therefore you can say that the ponies have already won, because they live in a world where the Daleks never existed, because they have made the universe safe enough for them to never exist.

if you make a Dalek exist in a pony world, the ponies have already lost because it means despite all their good morals and such, its proven wrong by the very existence of something that just wants to kill everything. Ponies exist in a world where Dalek doesn't, therefore pony wins.

[SDF]

{Scrubbed}

[Fan]

Which is exactly my point. the ponies are all about tolerance and peace. completely different world from versus stuff. the only way they win is a world where versus stuff is never created in the first place. therefore you can say that the ponies have already won, because they live in a world where the Daleks never existed, because they have made the universe safe enough for them to never exist.

if you make a Dalek exist in a pony world, the ponies have already lost because it means despite all their good morals and such, its proven wrong by the very existence of something that just wants to kill everything. Ponies exist in a world where Dalek doesn't, therefore pony wins.

Alternatively, the ponies simply move the planet.

Not that hard considering they move on the sun, moon, and ALL OF THE STARS IN THE UNIVERSE (Luna crafts the night sky, so every star in the visible night sky.) on a nightly / daily basis.

Sure time is nice and all, but that just means retries, and the farther you go back the MORE militaristic pony actually gets if Discord is any hint.

And timestop isn't exactly outside of their powers either, as has been demonstrated in show even Rainbow Dash (And Pegasi are statedly less durable than Earth Ponies.) is capable of surviving the center of a nuclear explosion capable of leveling several acres, while having produced said explosion, and leaving the area with no measurable after affects.

[Nameless]

Thread, why you so serious? http://i.imgur.com/BsGGR.png


Dont worry about it. The worst that could happen is they disown you, kill you, then bury you in the basement.

Thanks for reassuring me.


Fixed that for you!:smallbiggrin:

:smallbiggrin:


And here it is. Out in the open. The Brony Agenda. Trying to push honest, hardworking humans into their sick, equine lifestyle. Well I won't stand for it! :smallmad:

Join us. http://i.imgur.com/9QvF1.png

[Moff Chumley]

{Scrubbed}

Second. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OemNp6hgX4)

...I'm responding to your post using a meme. Which is ironic given what I'm agreeing with. However, since your post has a Pitchforkian character to it, and we all know Pitchfork and Irony go together like a simile in and a stupid post, it is in fact meta. Double meta if you count the self-reference in the previous sentence. And how every reference to "meta" effectively multiplies the amount of meta this post previously possessed, and pointing this out creates an infinite meta loop of self-reference and failure.

...this truly is the worst thread.

[Morganatic]

{Scrubbed}

Yeah, it's not great. (While this might go better in the LGBT thread, for less derailing), I kinda find it insulting and demeaning to appropriate the terminology and notion of what can be a pretty difficult and trying experience for a lot of queer folk, and turn it into the 312th thread about the MLP fanbase (because goodness knows there's not enough room for that elsewhere). Even if you're part of the alphabet soup yourself, I think it's important to remember that your experience isn't universal, and that even if you're trying to reclaim the whole issue by equating it to 'lol ponies and image macros', because that isn't unpleasant for you, doesn't mean it's fine.

Yeah, yeah, I should lighten up and stop taking things so seriously (http://www.derailingfordummies.com/#sensitive), but it still makes me feel a bit iffy.

[Nameless]

Yeah, it's not great. (While this might go better in the LGBT thread, for less derailing), I kinda find it insulting and demeaning to appropriate the terminology and notion of what can be a pretty difficult and trying experience for a lot of queer folk, and turn it into the 312th thread about the MLP fanbase (because goodness knows there's not enough room for that elsewhere). Even if you're part of the alphabet soup yourself, I think it's important to remember that your experience isn't universal, and that even if you're trying to reclaim the whole issue by equating it to 'lol ponies and image macros', because that isn't unpleasant for you, doesn't mean it's fine.

Yeah, yeah, I should lighten up and stop taking things so seriously (http://www.derailingfordummies.com/#sensitive), but it still makes me feel a bit iffy.

At the risk of going even more off topic, it would seem that anything offends someone now days. I think that it's pretty clear in my OP that I wasn't going out of my way to offend anyone, and, as harsh as this sounds, the people who so far have expressed offence from it seem to be going out of their way to be offended, or to turn this into some sort of offence.

[Asta Kask]

Yeah, it's not great. (While this might go better in the LGBT thread, for less derailing), I kinda find it insulting and demeaning to appropriate the terminology and notion of what can be a pretty difficult and trying experience for a lot of queer folk, and turn it into the 312th thread about the MLP fanbase (because goodness knows there's not enough room for that elsewhere). Even if you're part of the alphabet soup yourself, I think it's important to remember that your experience isn't universal, and that even if you're trying to reclaim the whole issue by equating it to 'lol ponies and image macros', because that isn't unpleasant for you, doesn't mean it's fine.

There are plenty of rainbow people in this thread and they seem to be taking it ok. Do not be offended by proxy, please.

[Nameless]

There are plenty of rainbow people in this thread and they seem to be taking it ok. Do not be offended by proxy, please.

I'm a rainbow person and I'm not offended. :smalltongue:

[Morganatic]

There are plenty of rainbow people in this thread and they seem to be taking it ok. Do not be offended by proxy, please.

Why are you assuming it's by proxy?

I think it's great that some members of this community aren't offended, as that's their prerogative. But I don't particularly appreciate being told -


the people who so far have expressed offence from it seem to be going out of their way to be offended, or to turn this into some sort of offence.

This kind of thing, where queer people whose experience of coming out was unpleasant, and might object to the above sort of casualisation of the issue, are told that they're being 'over-sensitive', and 'going out of our way to be offended' by a thread that takes it and makes it into a joke about ponies, and how ~hard~ it is to admit to watching a TV show. It may be a joke, and I appreciate attempts to subvert it, but it's all a bit problematic, to be honest.

[Heliomance]

I'm a rainbow person and I think the OP was hilarious.

[Astrella]

doesn't feel like misuse. The point jato overcome adversity, Nd admit who you are as a personal sacrifice, potentially losing friends, being disowned by family, and basically having your life fall apart.

Yeah, I have seen that happen. And felt a huge sure of relief myself when I admitted it.

Yep, because clearly people get lynched, kicked out of their house, attacked, ridiculed and discriminated against because they like MLP? I'm not as much annoyed by the joke itself, but I am by how apparently when someone is offended by something they have the right to be offended, instead of apologizing they get derided over it.

And no, because some rainbow people aren't offended doesn't make it not-offensive!


At the risk of going even more off topic, it would seem that anything offends someone now days. I think that it's pretty clear in my OP that I wasn't going out of my way to offend anyone, and, as harsh as this sounds, the people who so far have expressed offence from it seem to be going out of their way to be offended, or to turn this into some sort of offence.

I... did you ever read what you wrote here?

I understand that you didn't mean to offend people, but at least realize that people could be offended by this and don't go putting them down because of this.

[Weezer]

Yep, because clearly people get lynched, kicked out of their house, attacked, ridiculed and discriminated against because they like MLP? I'm not as much annoyed by the joke itself, but I am by how apparently when someone is offended by something they have the right to be offended, instead of apologizing they get derided over it.

And no, because some rainbow people aren't offended doesn't make it not-offensive!



I... did you ever read what you wrote here?

I understand that you didn't mean to offend people, but at least realize that people could be offended by this and don't go putting them down because of this.

I'm with Astrella here, it's perfectly reasonable for people to be offended by this. Legitimate coming out, as I'm sure you all know, can be an incredibly hard and painful experience and this thread makes light of that experience. And as Astrella said, even if you aren't offended doesn't mean others can't be offended for good reason,s people are offended by different things.


Also, don't deride people for being offended, trivializing people's thoughts and feelings is always a bad thing.

[Traab]

At the risk of going even more off topic, it would seem that anything offends someone now days. I think that it's pretty clear in my OP that I wasn't going out of my way to offend anyone, and, as harsh as this sounds, the people who so far have expressed offence from it seem to be going out of their way to be offended, or to turn this into some sort of offence.

Pretty much this. In this day and age I cant write a post saying "Hi!" without offending someone scared of heights.

[Weezer]

Pretty much this. In this day and age I cant write a post saying "Hi!" without offending someone scared of heights.

Urgh!
Can't you see why someone could be offended by this? Have some empathy people. Here I'll try to lay it out in hypothetical terms.

Person A has an extremely painful experience.
Person B makes light of those experiences.
Person A is now hurt because Person B has trivialized a difficult and painful event in their life.

Isn't that a reasonable chain of events? And don't pull the 'everything is offenseive nowadays', this so called rise in people being offended is merely the fact that it has actually become acceptable in our society for people who aren't White, straight, Christian males to stand up and say ''that is offensive to me''. An obvious consequence of that is an increase in things that have always been offensive actually being called out as offensive.

I'm slightly disappointed in the Playground that this is even an issue. No you shouldn't feel like you can't make this kind of joke, but at least admit that people can be rightfully offended by it.

[Spiryt]

Pretty much this. In this day and age I cant write a post saying "Hi!" without offending someone scared of heights.

Dunno if it is 'this day and age', but yeah - some 40 years after Monthy Python I would indeed think that people would be more used to the fact that nothing can escape the sneer.

[Traab]

Urgh!
Can't you see why someone could be offended by this? Have some empathy people. Here I'll try to lay it out in hypothetical terms.

Person A has an extremely painful experience.
Person B makes light of those experiences.
Person A is now hurt because Person B has trivialized a difficult and painful event in their life.

Isn't that a reasonable chain of events? And don't pull the 'everything is offenseive nowadays', this so called rise in people being offended is merely the fact that it has actually become acceptable in our society for people who aren't White, straight, Christian males to stand up and say ''that is offensive to me''. An obvious consequence of that is an increase in things that have always been offensive actually being called out as offensive.

I'm slightly disappointed in the Playground that this is even an issue. No you shouldn't feel like you can't make this kind of joke, but at least admit that people can be rightfully offended by it.

No, I honestly cant understand being offended by this. Why? Because its second hand offense. No comments are being targeted towards anyone who had a bad experience. None. So this is being offended by something that is in no way intended to be offensive. This is LOOKING for a reason to be offended.

[Weezer]

No, I honestly cant understand being offended by this. Why? Because its second hand offense. No comments are being targeted towards anyone who had a bad experience. None. So this is being offended by something that is in no way intended to be offensive. This is LOOKING for a reason to be offended.

You know things can be offensive unintentionally, right? And can also be offensive without being on the level of ''hur dur people who find coming out hard are stupid'' (yes I know, bad example but you should get the point).

I don't understand why people think anyone would look for a reason to be offended? It's not like saying something on the internet is offensive actually gains them anything. Perhaps try to grasp the idea that other people can be offended by things you aren't. Not everyone shares your views.

[Traab]

You know things can be offensive unintentionally, right? And can also be offensive without being on the level of ''hur dur people who find coming out hard are stupid'' (yes I know, bad example but you should get the point).

I don't understand why people think anyone would look for a reason to be offended? It's not like saying something on the internet is offensive actually gains them anything. Perhaps try to grasp the idea that other people can be offended by things you aren't. Not everyone shares your views.

Yes, i do know how things can be unintentionally offensive. However, I have no intention of vetting myself or my comments on the off chance that someone might choose to take them the wrong way and be offended by them, and I have no sympathy for those who do choose to be offended by me unintentionally. If you are going to be so sensitive as to be offended by something that is in no way meant to be offensive, thats quite honestly, your problem, not ours.

[Callos_DeTerran]

I don't understand why people think anyone would look for a reason to be offended? It's not like saying something on the internet is offensive actually gains them anything. Perhaps try to grasp the idea that other people can be offended by things you aren't. Not everyone shares your views.

I have actually. Heck, one of my friends will go into something he's determined he's not going to like and will actively look for reasons why the something offends him on some level. I've seen it a lot more on the internet though.

[Nameless]

I... did you ever read what you wrote here?

I understand that you didn't mean to offend people, but at least realize that people could be offended by this and don't go putting them down because of this.

I did, yes.

And for the sake of argument, let's say someone was genuinly offended by my post. It's pretty clear that it wasn't meant in that way, it's pretty clear that it wasn't even intended and it's pretty clear that the joke wasn't even about coming out about ones sexuality and that the post had nothing to do with my feelings about coming out. (And with all due respect, I think anyone can see that, even someone who did actually take offence from it.) So... with all this in mind, what exactly is the problem? It's not as if they're going to drop dead or fall into a coma because of an indirect, unintentional and misinterpreted jest.
So far, all these complaints have been about what IF someone is offended rather then someone actually taking offence from it. I'm just being told that I'm being offensive without anyone actually taking offence, which is rediculous. Why don't we wait first and see if someone is genuinly offended by it before we start making assumptions?


Urgh!
Can't you see why someone could be offended by this? Have some empathy people. Here I'll try to lay it out in hypothetical terms.

If this was a joke about coming out about ones sexuality, then maybe, depending on the context.

[Weezer]

Yes, i do know how things can be unintentionally offensive. However, I have no intention of vetting myself or my comments on the off chance that someone might choose to take them the wrong way and be offended by them, and I have no sympathy for those who do choose to be offended by me unintentionally. If you are going to be so sensitive as to be offended by something that is in no way meant to be offensive, thats quite honestly, your problem, not ours.

I'm not saying to censor yourself, to make sure that everything you say has no chance of ever offending someone. What I am calling for is that people need to take responsibility when people are offended. Don't, as a number of people in this thread have done, dismiss people when they're offended, instead acknowledge that they are reasonable to have been offended and that it was unintentional. That's all I want, no change in what you say, merely respect for how other people read what you say. I only started to care about this thread when people were attacked for having the gall to be offended by the OP. So, please be understanding when people are offended, don't attack them.

[Traab]

I'm not saying to censor yourself, to make sure that everything you say has no chance of ever offending someone. What I am calling for is that people need to take responsibility when people are offended. Don't, as a number of people in this thread have done, dismiss people when they're offended, instead acknowledge that they are reasonable to have been offended and that it was unintentional. That's all I want, no change in what you say, merely respect for how other people read what you say. I only started to care about this thread when people were attacked for having the gall to be offended by the OP. So, please be understanding when people are offended, don't attack them.

But the thing is, its NOT my responsibility to apologize for someone who chooses to take my comments in a completely different direction than they are clearly meant and gets offended by them. It isnt reasonable to be offended by comments that are clearly not meant to cause offense.

[Morganatic]

Yes, i do know how things can be unintentionally offensive. However, I have no intention of vetting myself or my comments on the off chance that someone might choose to take them the wrong way and be offended by them, and I have no sympathy for those who do choose to be offended by me unintentionally. If you are going to be so sensitive as to be offended by something that is in no way meant to be offensive, thats quite honestly, your problem, not ours.

Well, yeah, it's our problem, naturally. We're the ones who were offended by it, and people who made a conscious choice not to consider the ramifications and effects of what they say have by definition not suffered at all from it. But I don't think it's very sensible or sensitive to base all questions of right/wrong, or standards of speech based on 'whether it makes me feel sad or not'.


And for the sake of argument, let's say someone was genuinly offended by my post. It's pretty clear that it wasn't meant in that way, it's pretty clear that it wasn't even intended and it's pretty clear that the joke wasn't even about coming out about ones sexuality and that the post had nothing to do with my feelings about coming out. (And with all due respect, I think anyone can see that, even someone who did actually take offence from it.) So... with all this in mind, what exactly is the problem? It's not as if they're going to drop dead or fall into a coma because of an indirect, unintentional and misinterpreted jest.
So far, all these complaints have been about what IF someone is offended rather then someone actually taking offence from it. I'm just being told that I'm being offensive without anyone actually taking offence, which is rediculous. Why don't we wait first and see if someone is genuinly offended by it before we start making assumptions?


its me. i'm the hypersensitive offence-taker (which is why I posted in the thread saying as much)

I personally had an unpleasant experience of coming out (which I'd rather not get into here), and the notion that it exists on some sort of comparative scale with the stigma of watching the latest Hasbro cartoon is actually pretty insulting. Using the notion of 'coming out', and invoking all the same language (which fairly clearly suggests that the joke was at least partially about 'coming out about ones sexuality') as joke like this also cheapens it, and begins to rob the meaning from it.

I don't think the fact that you didn't think it would/could cause offence actually makes it any better, either; indeed, the opposite is true. If someone finds the comparison unpleasant or offensive, then they don't really care one bit what the person who originally wrote it meant, because that really doesn't affect them - all they see is


So, today I came out of the closet to my family. I sat them down and told them exactly who I really was. To be honest though, I think they already suspected, what with all the posters on my wall, the magazines under my bed and me going to all those meet-ups every month. I think they feel a little weird about it right now, but it's early days and I'm sure that in time, they'll learn to accept the fact that I'm a brony. I don't think they'll let this come between their un-conditional love for me.

At least now, I can finally ask them for the My Little Pony Season 1 DVD for Christmas. <3

which, as I hope I demonstrated, was a bit offensive to at least one person, even if that person was being silly, irrational and hyper-sensitive.

Some people later on in the thread have had a go at subverting the whole issue - pointing out the ridiculousness of homophobia by comparing it to MLP issues, like Kindablue and others did. If the thread had started with that in mind, then at least it would be demonstrable that the 'coming out' joke was used for a bigger, better purpose. But I think that if you just play the joke completely straight, and don't even see why people might be offended by it, or suggest that they're 'misintepreting' it, or seeing offence where it was only 'indirect/unintentional', then that just implies a certain lack of care.

[Asta Kask]

*shrug*

There are plenty of things we do that offend someone. If we have to go through life without causing offence to anyone we won't be able to do much. After all, the reason 'coming out' can be so traumatic is that some people are offended by the very existence of LGBTA people. If you believe (as I do) that LGBTA people have a right to exist then the only way to solve the paradox is to state that no one has a right not to be offended.

[Morganatic]

*shrug*

There are plenty of things we do that offend someone. If we have to go through life without causing offence to anyone we won't be able to do much. After all, the reason 'coming out' can be so traumatic is that some people are offended by the very existence of LGBTA people. If you believe (as I do) that LGBTA people have a right to exist then the only way to solve the paradox is to state that no one has a right not to be offended.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that's one humdinger of a false dichotomy. It's not 'allow homophobes to be really horrible to queer people + allow queer people to be offended at jokes' vs 'no one has the right not to be offended by anything'. This isn't - or shouldn't be - an issue of being allowed to say what we want, it's one about the role that language has in causing people suffering.

We don't deny homophobes the right to be hateful on the grounds that no-one has the right not to be offended, we do so because it's offensive and causes suffering in the form of fear, the threat of violence, and violence itself. Similarly, we should speak out against offensive jokes because they're offensive, cause suffering, and cheapen important notions like what coming out really is. People's right to be offended shouldn't really come into it. I'm sure it's possible that there are occasions where people taking offence is 'unreasonable' - I can definitely imagine such a scenario - but in that case, we should be arguing whether or not people like myself being offended by it is reasonable or not. I've provided some reasons.

PS - one more thing. The reason that coming out can be traumatic isn't just because of a small Other minority of people who believe that all gay people should be executed, or something (with all the implications that that holds; that if we aren't part of that group ('If you believe (as I do) that LGBTA people have a right to exist ...') we are A-OK and totes supportive of queer goals.) It's much, much broader than that. It's society's heteronormative bias, it's negative (or, hell, positive) stereotypes about queer people being a certain way, as well as threats of violence or isolation, that causes the majority of this suffering.

[Weezer]

If this was a joke about coming out about ones sexuality, then maybe, depending on the context.
Except it was a joke about coming out about ones sexuality, that's what makes it a joke in the first place. You set up the reader to believe that you're talking about sexually coming out to your parents and then in the punchline subvert there expectations and reveal you were actually talking about MLP. That you played off of peoples contextual expectations about the phrase "coming out" and the connection that people have between that phrase and sexuality is what made the joke funny. Don't try to deny it had nothing to do with sexual coming out.


But the thing is, its NOT my responsibility to apologize for someone who chooses to take my comments in a completely different direction than they are clearly meant and gets offended by them. It isnt reasonable to be offended by comments that are clearly not meant to cause offense.

It's your responsibility to take responsibility for the consequences of your actions. You don't need to apologize, you need to acknowledge. Notice I never said that you should say sorry or apologize, merely that you need to be mature enough to acknowledge the effect that your words had on someone. A valid response would be "I can understand that you're offended, that was not my intention". An invalid response would be to say:

At the risk of going even more off topic, it would seem that anything offends someone now days. I think that it's pretty clear in my OP that I wasn't going out of my way to offend anyone, and, as harsh as this sounds, the people who so far have expressed offence from it seem to be going out of their way to be offended, or to turn this into some sort of offence.

When someone said they took offence, he in turn impinged their right to be offended, denied that people had any reason to be offended and even accused the people who took offence to be making it all up. That is unacceptable.

YES it IS reasonable to be offended when the speaker didn't mean to cause offence. "It was just a joke" is the worst reason for denying that offensive speech is offensive.

Again let me reiterate: I don't think we should stop saying things because they offend people. It is impossible to avoid saying anything that could possibly offend. I just want people to acknowledge the chain of cause and effect that they started.

[Asta Kask]

I'll decline further debate on the issue as it comes dangerously close to politics.

[averagejoe]

The Mod They Call Me: There is already a My Little Pony (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12118822) thread for pony-related discussions, or possibly random banter (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219654) for slightly structured conversation.