[3.5] optimizing holly and mistletoe

[kulosle]

so there are several items throughout dnd that are either weightless or cost no gold, or both. this is begging to be optimized in some way. but as much as i rack my brains for answers i just can't seem to find a way to do this. any ideas? feel free to use any of the weightless or free items, it doesn't actually have to be holly and mistletoe i just sited them because they are free and weightless.

[faceroll]

Check out the crafting rules.:smallwink:

[Seharvepernfan]

so there are several items throughout dnd that are either weightless or cost no gold, or both. this is begging to be optimized in some way. but as much as i rack my brains for answers i just can't seem to find a way to do this. any ideas? feel free to use any of the weightless or free items, it doesn't actually have to be holly and mistletoe i just sited them because they are free and weightless.

If you did optimize it, it would end up being homebrew. So really it's going to be a rule 0 thing. We could still give you ideas, but it'd be homebrew.

[faceroll]

If you did optimize it, it would end up being homebrew. So really it's going to be a rule 0 thing. We could still give you ideas, but it'd be homebrew.

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Go look at the crafting rules.

[Seharvepernfan]

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Go look at the crafting rules.

What am I looking for?

[faceroll]

What am I looking for?

Crafting times. They're based on cost.

[kulosle]

yes you could theoretically instantly make as much 0 cost items as you wanted, but what would be the point of that? i would like to find an official way to abuse this, but my group often uses homebrews and i'd love to here those ideas too.

[faceroll]

yes you could theoretically instantly make as much 0 cost items as you wanted, but what would be the point of that? i would like to find an official way to abuse this, but my group often uses homebrews and i'd love to here those ideas too.

You can make an infinite number of quarterstaves on your turn.

[Bovine Colonel]

You can make an infinite number of quarterstaves on your turn.

Crushing by quarterstaff? :smalleek:

[Seharvepernfan]

Crushing by quarterstaff? :smalleek:

Person #1: "And this is the quarterstaff pit. This is where all the quarterstaffs in the world come from."

Person #2: "...uhh, all of them?"

Person #1: "Yes, the Prime Creator make a craft check to make quarterstaffs, to ...disastrous...results."

Person #2: :smalleek: "So, what happened to the ...Prime Creator?"

Person #1: "It is theorized that his corpse is still down there...somewhere."

Person #2: "I don't understand, how did he die?"

Person #1: "When he made The Check, quarterstaffs poured into existence until all around him until the weight crushed him to death, which is when The Check stopped."

Person #2: "Sir, I believe I have an idea that may end the war, but we're going to need a weaponsmith who wants to die..."

[kulosle]

hahaha okay yes i now have an infinite supply of 2x4s, but can i really be ridiculous with this like the jumpomancer or something to that affect?

[Hand_of_Vecna]

Technically by RAW you can make an effectively limitless number of any 0gp item from no materials, I guess. So the most obvious uses would be filling pits with the item, leaving piles of the item as barracades/cover, dropping 1000's into a creatures mouth when it's trying to eat you or filling it's stomach with them if you've been eaten, pile them up as a makeshift ramp, use them to get out of a pit by repeatdly layering them and stepping on top; basically it could be used as a poorman's immovable rod.

All of these uses are of course incredibly silly since they depend on interpretting RAW to allow you to spontaneously produce an infinite amount of matter and a DM that was a slave to RAW over logic could counter by saying all these thing's don't work because it's a pile of things with no weight and therefore the pile has no weight and moving or destroying it is as effortless as walking through the air around you.

[faceroll]

That's why you use quarterstaves. They cost nothing and weigh 4lbs. You can craft quarterstaves for colossal creatures for free. Create trees from pure RAW!

[Telonius]

[3.5] optimizing holly and mistletoe

This guy (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20011222x) could probably help you out. Otherwise, just hunt down the highest-charisma person you can find. :smallbiggrin:

[Diefje]

That's why you use quarterstaves. They cost nothing and weigh 4lbs. You can craft quarterstaves for colossal creatures for free. Create trees from pure RAW!

You still need the raw materials (doesn't cost anyhing, but you still need it), and tools. You can't just pull them out of thin air.

However, you can have a quarterstaff factory that makes gold selling free items with free material cost

[Big Fau]

You can make an infinite number of quarterstaves on your turn.

Reminds me of the item cloning glitch in Oblivion. Suddenly, Wabbajacks. THOUSANDS OF THEM.

[ross]

This guy could probably help you out. Otherwise, just hunt down the highest-charisma person you can find. :smallbiggrin:



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[Ruethgar]

There is a spell side effect that reduces the weight of the target by 20lb. Prestidigitate a raft of instantly crafted whatever or pockets filled with whats-it and you can get a form of flight for low low cost of 0 and a 0th level spell.

[Big Fau]

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There is a spell side effect that reduces the weight of the target by 20lb. Prestidigitate a raft of instantly crafted whatever or pockets filled with whats-it and you can get a form of flight for low low cost of 0 and a 0th level spell.

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[Bohandas]

Reminds me of the item cloning glitch in Oblivion. Suddenly, Wabbajacks. THOUSANDS OF THEM.

Which is actually strangely appropriate