[3.5] Base classes with full BAB and hide as a class skill?

[deuxhero]

All I know of are Ranger and Ambush Drake (for my purposes, RHD without LA is OK), plus one gnome Paladin sub.

Anything I missed?

[jguy]

Doesn't the Thug Variant fighter in unearthed arcana get hide?

[deuxhero]

Nope: Bluff, Gather Information, Knowledge (local), and Sleight of Hand are all it adds.

[Derjuin]

If Dragon Compendium is allowed, the Battle Dancer also has full BAB and Hide. I can't find very many others though...

[Draz74]

Ambush Drake (for my purposes, RHD without LA is OK)

Where do people get the idea that Ambush Drake is even playable? I'm looking in the MM3 and seeing "Level Adjustment: --"

[NeoSeraphi]

The Warrior (generic class in Unearthed Arcana) has full BAB, bonus feats with no set list to choose from, and any six skills as class skills.

[deuxhero]

Where do people get the idea that Ambush Drake is even playable? I'm looking in the MM3 and seeing "Level Adjustment: --"

Because the Savage Progression on WotC's website, to my memory, does not.

[Draz74]

Because the Savage Progression on WotC, to my memory, does not.

Ah, ok. Thanks.

[Ravens_cry]

Here it is (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fc/20060728a) if any wish to look and see if they want to play it.

[Godskook]

What is the purpose, such that we can possibly offer other suggestions? Martial Study(anything Shadow Hand) works just fine if you're willing to spend a feat or dip fighter(as they can get it as a class bonus feat).

[Runestar]

What is the purpose, such that we can possibly offer other suggestions? Martial Study(anything Shadow Hand) works just fine if you're willing to spend a feat or dip fighter(as they can get it as a class bonus feat).

My first guess is qualifying for the blackguard prc. :smalltongue:

I would recommend burning 1 feat on martial study as well, though neither of the 1st lv shadow hand maneuvers are really that great. :smallannoyed:

[Acanous]

How is it this has gone on so long and nobody's mentioned Ranger?

[Gullintanni]

How is it this has gone on so long and nobody's mentioned Ranger?

It was mentioned in the OP post? :smalltongue:

[boomwolf]

cuz it got a mention at first post?

Was sure swashbuckler got hide too, but checking proved me wrong...

Hard one...don't think there are any (other then what was mentioned so far) because hide is mostly an "agent" skill, and most full BAB classes fall under "warrior" archtypes...

[Psyren]

PF Soulknife gets Stealth (i.e. Hide + MS) if you're willing to backport it. (imo, everyone should.)

[JoeYounger]

I would talk to your DM and explain that in your back story you won the national hide and seek championship so youd like to have hide as a class skill, you know... for flavors sake!

[AmberVael]

I would recommend burning 1 feat on martial study as well, though neither of the 1st lv shadow hand maneuvers are really that great. :smallannoyed:

If possible, I would advise picking it up later for that reason.

Wait until level 6 and you can pick up Cloak of Deception. Even 1 round invisibility can be useful in a lot of situations. Or, if you'd prefer, pick up Shadow Jaunt. 50ft teleport 1/encounter can be used in a lot of ways too. In fact, Shadow Jaunt may be the better option.

It might make it a little harder to max out hide if you get it a class skill later, but it can be done.

[MesiDoomstalker]

Nightsong Enforcer from Complete Adventurer. But it requires Hide 10 as pre-reqs, IIRC, so it may not be too useful for your purposes.

I am dumb for missing "Base" in the title. Ignore me.

[kestrel404]

While technically not a base class, Half-dragon Paragon gets hide as a class skill for several different lineages. And I believe that Dragonwrought Kobold qualifies you for entry under one obscure rule or another involving dragon hit dice, so you don't even have to be a half dragon...

[deuxhero]

My first guess is qualifying for the blackguard prc. :smalltongue:

I would recommend burning 1 feat on martial study as well, though neither of the 1st lv shadow hand maneuvers are really that great. :smallannoyed:

And Dread Commando.


I'm trying to avoid burning feats.