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Terry576
2011-11-15, 05:02 PM
Created as a successor to the original Bleach ITP, Reborn started as a reboot, returning to the lower-powered roots of canon Bleach. We've been going for a while, but we still welcome new players. :smallsmile:

Important stuff so far:

OOC THREADS

First Discussion Thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145883)
Disccusion Thread 2 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147717)
Discussion Thread 3 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149850)
Discussion Thread 4 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150660)
Discussion thread 5 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151506)
Discussion thread 6 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153111)
Discussion thread 7 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153945)
Discussion thread 8 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155979)
OOC Thread 9 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157209)
Thread 10 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159337)
Thread 11 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=163108)
Thread 12 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168619)
Thread 13 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173671)
Thread 14 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10103871#post10103871)
Thread 15 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190814)
Thread 16 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11041669#post11041669)
Thread 17 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207628)
Thread 18 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214565)

IC THREADS

Mortal World:
Thread 1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156068)
Thread 2 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168970)
Thread 3 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186633)
Soul Society:
Thread 1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156067)
Thread 2 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168846)
Thread 3 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194652)
Hueco Mundo:
Thread 1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156070)
Thread 2 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171037)
Thread 3 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=206258)

EPISODES


Episode 1: "Prologue! A new tale, a new Shinigami!" (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152286)
Episode 2: Hannibal's Past: Flashback to the Old! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8543521)
Episode 3: Gotei Joint-Ops! What could ever go wrong? (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164828)
Episode 4: A Heritage Revealed! Awaken, Ayase! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164934)
Episode 5: Drunken Brawl! No actual drunks included! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170997)
Episode 6: Another Night Out. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180925)
7: A New Hero is Born: A Meeting of Hearts and Fists (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190477)
8: Revenge of the training instructor (http://bleachitp-reborn.wikidot.com/episodes:revenge-of-the-training-instructor)
9: Bankai! A Quest for the Power to Change! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200070)
10: A coming of age (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11297642&postcount=1)
11: Back To Work (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=208589)
12: Burning Hatred (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222343)

Gaiden: Do you feel lucky, punk? (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203996)
Gaiden: I refuse to say goodbye! Hasunaga's reward to Sayaka (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220412)
Gaiden: Curbstomp! The determination to win a battle!! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219323)

OTHER HELPFUL LINKS
Character Registry (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146758)
Wiki (http://bleachitp-reborn.wikidot.com/) - Password "foamy".

A while ago we chose Central 5, a group of five people who work as a governing body for the Soul Society. They are currently Kuroimaken, Sucrose, Frozen_Feet, KnightDisciple and Nicklance. They are tasked with such tasks as deciding Captain promotions and upholding laws of Seireitei. Details can be found below.
In the second last thread people voted and decided that there would not be a Quincy vs Shinigami war before the actual start of the story/roleplay unlike in canon. It was also decided through a vote that Quincy arrows would destroy souls as they do in canon through a vote. People are open to the possibility of future conflicts between the two factions and the Quincy learning how to purify souls with their arrows. Learning how to do so would likely be a significant plot point.

Quincy players have decided that anyone that makes a Quincy should write up a description of their family/clan's history.

Souls that are fully absorbed and become part of a hollow permanently fuse with it. When a hollow is purified the souls it absorbed are not split up. They are reborn as a single entity.

Frozen_Feet's proposed take on this:
Life Cycle of Hollows.
Canny Hollows: these are beings like Grand Fisher and Shrieker - normal Hollows that stay behind in Mortal World much longer than usual. Why? Either they still have unfinished business... or they were already crooked in life.

My reasoning is as follows: when a good Plus turns into a Hollow, it seeks to destroy its loved ones like any other Hollow. However, the mind of the good souls can't hold together once they're done with that. They lack killer's instinct, and might even feel guilt for breaking what was once dear to them in life. This is why they seek oblivion.

Evil souls, on the other hand, gain much more pleasure from tormenting living beings. Even after they've killed those they had a personal beef with, they stay in Mortal World, because their bestial desires won't let them leave. In a way, they still have something to do that defines them and stops them from losing their inviduality, even if it's only "kill all things":

Menos Grande Gillians: When a soul becomes Hollow, the first thing it does is destroy all things it held dear in mortal life. In most cases, having lost their purpose and consumed by their own loneliness, Hollows wander into Hueco Muendo, where they instinctively seek out other souls who died in the same way. Seeking embrace of sweet oblivion, they engage in cannibalistic orgy and fuse into Menos Grande Gillian. Fusion of souls is permanent; once eaten by a Gillian, a soul cannot be separated again.

Menos Grande Gillian's have no identity, only scattered fragments of negative memories and emotions. When such a Gillian is purified, its soul passes into Soul Society as essentially blank slate. However, due to originally being gestalt of multiple entities, such soul has much vaster Reiryoku than normal and is more likely to fragment into Zanpakuto spirit and Inner Hollow. Thus, a purified Menos Grande Gillian is very likely to become a shinigami.

Adjuchas and Vasto Lordes: As noted, Menos Grande Gillians are gestalt formed from people who died in the same way. Adjuchas happens when the amount of souls reaches a critical mass, causing a new personality to bloom from the fragmented memories. This being is effectively personification of its "cause of death". However, Adjuchas aren't stable, and must keep absorbing other Hollows who died the same way to increase in power. Should they fail to absorb other Hollows, starvation will make them regress, reducing them back to mindless beasts. Once Adjuchas has eaten enough souls, it evolves into a Vasto Lorde. However, this requires that they beat all of their challengers, letting none who manage to eat a bit of them to get away.

So, why can't Adjuchas who gets a bit of itself eaten become a Vasto Lorde? It's because losing to another Hollow means there's another being with same Aspect of Death who is more powerful. A Vasto Lorde is a Menos who has absorbed or proven itself to be stronger than all other Hollows with the same aspect of death. They are, effectively, anthropomorphic personifications of their Aspect of Death, and rule supreme over lost souls who died that way. As long as they remain undefeated, they are stable; if a Vasto Lorde does lose, it begins to regress like Adjuchas until it can destroy the Hollow that defeated it.

Arrancars: A Hollow can become an Arrancar in any point of its life, as long as it has a personality at the time. An Arrancar is a Hollow who learns to define itself by way other than its Aspect of Death, thus rising above its bestial instincts.

All Arrancars are stable. While an Arrancar can keep eating souls to increase in power, it no longer fuses new souls with the core of its person - the nommed soul only loses its reiryoku. A soul eaten by Arrancar is usually reborn as a new Hollow. In any case, eating Pluses or other Hollows is pretty much voluntary for an Arrancar - they mostly do so because there is no other food in Hueco Muendo. Because of this, Arrancars can't be held as inherently worse than humans or Shinigami.

Menos and Purification: Shinigami who don't remember their lives were Menos who got purified. As the identity of a Menos is effectively a new entity and is only born after death, Konso unfortunately wipes that all away. For purposes of Redemption, a soul which has gone through Oblivion of the Gillian phase is exempt from Hell's punishment. They become Shinigami because of huge amount of Reiryoku they accumulated as a Hollow.

Resurreccion and Segunda Etapa: Resurreccion is an Arrancars ability to retake its form as a Hollow, and consequently as the manifestation of its aspect. The power of an Arrancars resurreccion is in part directly proportional to how much the Arrancar's behaviour reflects its Aspect.

While achieving Segunda Etapa is only typical for Vasto Lordes who already rule over their Aspect, theoretically any Arrancar can achieve it through meticulous training and self realization.

Soul Society and the inhabitants of Las Noches (The King of Hollows, the Epsada and their underlings) have a truce between each other at the start of the game/story but both sides want to break as soon as they gain a substantial upper hand on the other.

People that want to make captain entries should write up a history for their preferred division including duties, a past captain or two and whatever else you might think important to add. It can be significantly different from canon.

General

Purpose of the Central 5/46 and Division Information
5 trusted players are chosen to act as the Central 46. Any of these people can post as the entire body, and essentially act as an administrative organization both in and out of character. You might think that doesn't make sense, but in actuality, the duties would cross-over a lot more than you might imagine. For example, say a player wants his character to be promoted to a captain at some point in the RPG. The Central 46 would be the ones who analyze the situation and make a decision, but they'd have to look closely at both the character and the player to see if they're ready for the responsibilities. As another example, imagine that a group of rogue Shinigami appear in the mortal world and start causing trouble. The 46 would decide whether or not Soul Society goes to war with them, and thus whether or not any of the more powerful characters get involved in the plot. Think of them like a set of unofficial moderators for the RPG, who keep things in check both ICly and OOCly.

I think it could also add a whole new layer of role-playing opportunities. Let's say a group of low-powered academy students are training in the mortal world when one classmate decides to do something reckless and ends up getting them into dire straits. They make it back to Soul Society alive and in one piece, but now they have to answer to the Central 46 and explain their actions. Having actual players behind the council instead of just mindless NPCs (or corpses) makes it a bit of a nagging threat in the back of people's minds, and could even indirectly prevent players from going overboard. Since I know that if I were sitting on the council, I would not be a gracious host.

Gotei divisions (http://bleachitp-reborn.wikidot.com/seireitei) and their tasks:
1) Administrative.
2) Ninjas.
3) Execution?
4) Healing+Hospitality.
5) Messengers.
6) Reinforcements.
7) Logistics.
8) Tactical planning
9) Recon.
10) Internal Police.
11) Fight.
12) Science.
13) Patrol.

Hollow, Arrancar and Las Noches

Laws of Las Noches
1. Only a victory in singular combat entitles one to take the position of espada from another.
2. The espada are not allowed to conspire against one another.
3. Killing a fellow citizen is a crime, unless it is self-defense, or you don't get caught on the act (drow influence: The real crime is being caught). The espada can add other exclusions of culpability for their sectors (including and up to any reason, LAW*). *Laws as Written.
4. Vandalism is a crime. See above for excludents.
5. Thievery is a crime. See above for details.
The espada and privaron have equal authority over all numeros. The espada have sole authority over their own fraccion. The espada have sole authority over the citizens of their own districts. The fraccion have authority beneath the espada and privaron over all other citizens of Las Noches who live in own their districts. The fraccion have authority beneath that of the espada and privaron over the numeros. The privaron have sole authority over those designated to them by the King and Queen. The King and Queen have authority over all.




Quote:
Originally Posted by Draken View Post
1. I will be assigning the Espada, most likely.

2. I will also, probably, not keep the numbers strongly tied to the power of each character.

3. The Ghost King will not be the primera.

4. My main arrancar character (King's gonna stay in the background) will be the Queen of Hollows, and she will not be an espada either. I will keep those positions for other players.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frozen_Feet View Post
About Aspects of Death: it's established that once a Hollow has destroyed things that were dear to it, they wander into Hueco Muendo and seek out other Hollows to ease their pain / to forget about their lives. I propose they instinctively seek out others who died in the same way, and thus their suffering condenses into their Aspect. Arrancars gain power when the ascended personality realizes this and works around / with it.

Fae

The State of the Afterlife of the British Isles
Britain’s afterlife is stable – just. Long periods of internal strife between the psychopomps of Britain, known to themselves as the mac Lir or fab Lly^r, and to others as the Fae, left ample time for Hollows to develop and grow. Now, Britain faces a deep-rooted infestation of well-hidden Menos, but the Houses of the British Isles are united in their desire to rid the islands of these threats.

Annwn – the Afterlife
The British afterlife is called Annwn, a place that reflects the most untouched corners of the British Isles in its geography. The four courts of monarchs are located in a roughly central location within a few hours journey of each other by normal walking speed. Passage between Annwn and the mortal world is achieved by passing through thick banks of mist that function as the Fae equivalent of Senkaimon. The mac Lir make use of ravens, rather than butterflies, to guide them through the misty realm between Annwn and the mortal world.

The Organisation of the Fae
The British Isles are ruled by four monarchs – one each for Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales. Each of these monarchs governs passage of souls into Annwn in the country they are tied to. They each possess three Houses under their command, each ruled by a Tiarna or Pennaeth, individuals equal to the captains of Soul Society. A Tiarna or Pennaeth is directly supported by their Dara or Ail, equivalents to the Japanese Vice-Captains. The rest of the House is made up of thirteen mionn cheangal or lw rhwymo, equivalents to seated officers, plus any other Fae who are members of the House but deemed unworthy of the distinction of the upper ranks. The specialisations of each House vary depending on the current Tiarna or Pennaeth, but it is very rare for their not to be at least one House dedicated to combat in each country at any given time. The ranks of the Houses are held for life, unless the bearer of a rank forfeits it. A House member is usually given a title and land in Annwn upon forfeiting a rank. These titles are hereditary, and their bearers and their family often become the British equivalent of the Noble Houses of Soul Society.

Every year, a randomly selected twenty members of each House are chosen to leave Annwn and go out into the mortal world and deal with Hollows as they see fit. Fae on such leave from their House are known as Fianna, and are exempt from all laws of their lords until the end of their sojourn and return to Annwn.

Each monarch also rules a small Royal House. Tiarna or Pennaeth who truly distinguish themselves are promoted to this rank to serve as the monarch’s guardians and personal champions.

Alongside the House structure exists the Aois-dàna, a loose affiliation of bards and druids that serve as advisors to the lords of the Houses, historians, genealogists, legal specialists, and experts in Ealaín, the British form of kido.

Capabilities of the Fae
All abilities the Fae possess are mirrors of the abilities of shinigami. They can walk on air like their Japanese counterparts, and focus their training on Scileanna Laochra (Zanjutsu), Ystwythder (Hoho), Gan a Arm (Hakudo) and Ealaín (Kido).

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A Note on Language
Whilst most of the terminology for the Fae is based on Celtic languages, some, particularly the specifics and names of Ealaín, were brought to Britain from elsewhere. These use Ancient Sumerian.
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In addition, every Fae possesses a Treoir Anam, their equivalent of a zanpakutou. These possess the potential for a Rhyddhau (shikai) and a Nerthol Rhyddhau (bankai) as a zanpakutou does. The only notable difference between a Treoir Anam and a zanpakutou is that the former are quite likely to take a shape other than a sword even when sealed, spears and axes in particular being quite common, and no small number of Aois-dàna druids possessing sickles.

Ealaín
The mystic arts of Britain function identically to kido, the spells of a given path and number function the same as their foreign counterpart.

Silakus: “Way of Destruction”
1, Taka (Push)
4, Sagir (Pale Lightning Flash): Balor! Unlid the third eye that graces your brow, and let forth the spite of clouds!
11, Nuhuš Gír (Tamed Lightning)
31, Urinti (Blood Arrow): Balor! Unlid the third eye that graces your brow, and let forth the tide of chaos!
33, Nissati (Blue Arrow): Balor! Unlid the third eye that graces your brow, and let the west crash forth!
54, Su-luh Izi (Cleansing Flames): Balor! Unlid the third eye that graces your brow, and empower me to remove impurity from your sight!
58, Imiuru (Windstorm)
63, Anurimiriu (Threefold Storm Roar)
73, Erim Nissati (Host of Blue Arrows): Balor! Unlid the third eye that graces your brow, drown out the sun, and call forth the sundering west winds!
88, Aralimiriutil (Apocalyptic Threefold Netherworld Storm)
90, Gitil (Black Ending)
96, Ašgir Mànu (Single Sword Immolation)

Girserusu: “Path of Shielding Arts”
1, Šaga (Captive)
4, Sigulul (Golden Chain)
8, Tamšen (Reflecting Mirror)
9, Eda (Paralysis): Balor! Lid your third eye, call up the hounds of Annwn, and grace us with the living death!
21, Urinimi (Blood Cloud)
26, Zah Bu (Hiding Light): Balor! Lid your third eye, turn your gaze away, and put the sun in their eyes!
30, Ešhu Ulul (Three-Bird Restraint)
37, Ulgu (Star Net)
39, Senbu (Shielding Light): Balor! Lid your third eye, turn your gaze to me, and guard me with thine wrath!
58, Igisar Lasar (Seeing the World, Knowing All): Balor! Lid your third eye, extend your sight forth, whisper in my ear, and let me see thine sight! The sun and moon are my eyes, the trembling ground my ear!
61, Asni E-kurbu (Six-Body Prison of Light): Balor! Lid your third eye, gift the sun unto to me, and let its halo trap them!
62, Ûšukur (Hundred Spear Fence)
63, Gisigulul (Locking Golden Chain)
73, Išibalsig (Rotated Mountain Wall)
75, Aš Barzilba-an (Five Adamant Pillars)
77, Kadigir (Mouth of the Gods): Balor! Lid your third eye, and gift me with your voice! The clouds are as my mouth, and the skies are as my lungs!
81, Barù-la (Splitting Nothingness)

Geasa
Unlike shinigami, the Fae bear an additional restraint upon their power: geasa (sing. geis). These are taboos for the Fae in question that they must not commit, or lose access to spiritual power or suffer some other misfortune. Anyone can bring a geasa on a Fae, though the Fae in question must willingly accept it. Treoir Anam spirits often require their wielder to agree to a geis before granting Rhyddhau or Nerthol Rhyddhau. They also pay a part in Fae society, geasa often being included in oaths to one’s lord or in marriage vows.

Samsara


Mortals


Translators: Word Reference (http://www.wordreference.com/) is a pretty good one for English to Spanish. Just don't translate phrases with it.

EDIT: Concerning the nearing obsoleteness of the thread, I'd like everyone who has Higher Hakuda writeups, Draken's Necromancia writeup, and higher Zanjutsu styles to be added to this thread. Wouldn't want the OP to start being useless, would we?

Draken
2011-11-15, 06:34 PM
First post of doom.

Anyway, there is a power relating to a capture camera around, is there? How about using the bakudo approach as a solution? Even if it captures the individual, sufficient willpower can and will break the effect, freeing the recipient.

And Von Geister does kinda have a somewhat unavoidable penultimate power, his Segunda Etapa Imperialist Burning Eye is equivalent to a Bakudo 90 that is contantly active on anyone who makes eye contact with Von Geister.

Kuroimaken
2011-11-15, 06:44 PM
Well, there IS one way to avoid it...

...the Shiryu way.

HirokatsuGoto
2011-11-15, 09:59 PM
terry and Berry

first..i dont see why my mere mention of a show as a visual cue for a POSSIBLE solution or better understanding is such a big deal...

i dont see why both of you have to come at me like i am tryign to bring down the RP...

i bring up the ability as only a potential aside to a plotline which TGVA was asking about... i never once said the power was developed...nor did i say it was "4th seat or below" or anything like that...i never even said it was any kind of power above anything... so inferring this is an ability that can stop the CG and the VG is a bsit insulting as i never approached that as a topic at all

on an other point... arent there restraining Kido? Kido where you are trapped or you are not? and even if you are trapped you can use your strength (if great enough) to do break free of it?

why cant this be something similar to that? When you fire a kido it either hits or it doesnt...and even if it does connect, the person can break free or not...the camera is a camera...if i coudlnt see the person through the viewfinder...then i woudl guess it wouldnt work...

if you want to i am sure you can come up with any number of ways anything i post is wrong and fundamentally unworthy and unfair in this RP

the fact that this is loosely related to an external plotline has NOTHING to do with this... in fact this character is very loosely linked to a similar character...and the powers not the same except in simple concept. An essay orated to me about the merits of the ability based off of that i think is unwarranted

I asked for potential solutions and all i got was basically dont do it...

i dont have time or energy for this right now...i even said that i dont know about that power...which he doesnt even have or anythign yet and i was still tryign to figure out how it woudl work... i was more excited about being in a plot with TGVA...

im not interested in getting into any of this in more detail until i hear more opinions from the community...i will think on the suggestions and thoughts so far though

as for the plot...i think it coudl go forth regardless of the possible power the character could eventually acquire to use at whatever strength or lack there of it could be.... but maybe that will be considered not a good idea either

good night everyone...i guess i was really only feeling well enough to come back and post a little...sorry for all the problems yet again

KnightDisciple
2011-11-15, 10:14 PM
Fair enough!

Replace "Kazuma" with "Shishiou". :smallbiggrin:Aha! An excuse to involve Endo Shin!

@HirokatsuGoto: Most of your post is basically fluff to your core argument of "Kido are binary as well, especially binding kido!".

Which...isn't true, or at least not true in the same way. Let's split this up between Hado and Bakudo.

Hado: This is pretty obvious; like sword strikes and such, you can be "partially affected" by Hado. A Byakuri could scrape your arm. Shot of Red Fire might only catch you on the edges. And so forth. So there's a lot of "wiggle room" there, dependent on a lot of factors from both combatants.

Bakudo: This one's a bit more subtle. Let's leave aside the barrier-type spells, as those aren't really a good parallel, and focus on the binding spells. Some of them are somewhat of an "AOE" type; in particular, I'm thinking of Hundred Steps Fence and Triple Beak Piercing Beam. In either case, I think one could make an argument for only catching a couple of the rods, or one of the "beaks", and being only somewhat bound. Then there's the rope-like binding spells; with many of those, you can still move the parts of your body that aren't explicitly bound. Finally, there are the full-body-bind Kido. These are the closest to a "binary" situation, but even then, I'd argue there's "wiggle room". I believe in canon we've seen individuals fight against the kido and move, but only at a very reduced rate. We've seen them break the spell, but only with great effort. Also, in nearly every Bakudo's case, it takes more than just "point and click" to hit the target.

Even with that all said, Bakudo don't remove a character from the scene entirely; even if they can't move, they can speak and interact with other characters. This camera wouldn't allow that.

It might be more interesting to try and think up a series of "status effects" with the camera. Have different types of film do different things, and/or different types of special photo effects do the same. Leave more "wiggle room" beyond "trapped or totally free".


As well, terry is exactly right about the power level of "anyone below 4th Seat". That's a category that's more powerful than all but a couple hundred or so Shinigami, in a military of thousands to tens of thousands, and more powerful than any of the MW kids, or even probably most of the MW adults.

tgva8889
2011-11-15, 10:23 PM
Also, most full body-bind Kido require either successful hits or have to set up some chant ritual to use it. I mean, you can miss with some powerful Bakudo, I'd guess. I'd assume someone who was fast enough could "dodge" Bakudo 63. We haven't seen it used enough to really know for sure.

Kuroimaken
2011-11-16, 07:22 AM
One other point: in Kekkaishi the ayakashi often break Yoshimori's barriers, especially when they're very strong, and even when they're blown up, the vast majority of them has high-speed regeneration to make up for it.

If I may suggest, you might be better off basing your photographer's powers off Tatsumi Saiga from Speed Grapher. He basically becomes able to blow stuff up by clicking it with his camera. (It interacts a little weirdly with mirrors - apparently, what's on the focus is what gets "shot".) He manages to use photography equipment to alter the effects of his 'shots' as well, such as using a wide-angle lens to produce an area of effect explosion, or a scope lens to increase the power of the blast (though it does get somewhat exaggerated. Using that one levels a whole trail through a mountain, though he does seem extremely tired afterwards). He also can't use his power if there's no film on his camera (he refuses to use the digital variety).

A grand total of two possible results is bad for storytelling, even in RP, less because it forces an unjust reaction and more because it limits the ways the story can go. It's another reason why binary abilities are a bad idea. (Note that depending on what the effect is, it's still salvageable. An ability that can cause, say, paralysis on a "hit" or nausea on a "miss" is a bit easier to deal with since everyone deals with varying degrees of nausea at different rates. It's still not very good, but it's better than paralysis or nothing.)

EDIT: KD, good work on picking up on the concept of reach dominance. Also, you seem to have realized the more difficult part of how wielding two swords affects defense and offense. For someone who never practiced the art you seem to have picked up quickly. :smallsmile:

AnimeKid
2011-11-16, 08:50 AM
First post of doom.

Anyway, there is a power relating to a capture camera around, is there? How about using the bakudo approach as a solution? Even if it captures the individual, sufficient willpower can and will break the effect, freeing the recipient.

And Von Geister does kinda have a somewhat unavoidable penultimate power, his Segunda Etapa Imperialist Burning Eye is equivalent to a Bakudo 90 that is contantly active on anyone who makes eye contact with Von Geister.

I could see this working, honestly the camera power isn't that broken. YOu guys jumped down his throat when it was just a concept and he hadn't even fully explained it yet. They could still call out for help from the camera couldn't they? Also say it could capture captains. The would break out nigh instantly and possible break the camera. Also most people don't tend to stand there while someone is attempting a technique on them and this one is purely relying on sight. Not instinct, insight, or reaitsu sensing.

Kuroimaken
2011-11-16, 10:05 AM
As far as I understand it, breaking free isn't mentioned as a possibility.

KnightDisciple
2011-11-16, 01:00 PM
One other point: in Kekkaishi the ayakashi often break Yoshimori's barriers, especially when they're very strong, and even when they're blown up, the vast majority of them has high-speed regeneration to make up for it.

If I may suggest, you might be better off basing your photographer's powers off Tatsumi Saiga from Speed Grapher. He basically becomes able to blow stuff up by clicking it with his camera. (It interacts a little weirdly with mirrors - apparently, what's on the focus is what gets "shot".) He manages to use photography equipment to alter the effects of his 'shots' as well, such as using a wide-angle lens to produce an area of effect explosion, or a scope lens to increase the power of the blast (though it does get somewhat exaggerated. Using that one levels a whole trail through a mountain, though he does seem extremely tired afterwards). He also can't use his power if there's no film on his camera (he refuses to use the digital variety).

A grand total of two possible results is bad for storytelling, even in RP, less because it forces an unjust reaction and more because it limits the ways the story can go. It's another reason why binary abilities are a bad idea. (Note that depending on what the effect is, it's still salvageable. An ability that can cause, say, paralysis on a "hit" or nausea on a "miss" is a bit easier to deal with since everyone deals with varying degrees of nausea at different rates. It's still not very good, but it's better than paralysis or nothing.)Yeah. I don't think "camera as power focus" is a bad idea at all. It's just that, as stated, "trap the soul" is a poor narrative fit in a multi-writer RP. If it were a single-writer story, then that writer would always know who could or couldn't break free (or maybe just picks arbitrarily, either way).

But in a game like this, it just doesn't seem a good fit, especially since, as strawberryman pointed out, it entirely removes the character from the RP for at least some time. And not in a "heroic sacrifice + epic death scene" way or anything.


EDIT: KD, good work on picking up on the concept of reach dominance. Also, you seem to have realized the more difficult part of how wielding two swords affects defense and offense. For someone who never practiced the art you seem to have picked up quickly. :smallsmile::smallredface: Thanks. I'm mostly just going with BS+guesswork. Then again, I'm not the 2nd best swordsman in real life, I'm the worst, so you really gotta watch me for wacko moves. :smalltongue:


I could see this working, honestly the camera power isn't that broken. YOu guys jumped down his throat when it was just a concept and he hadn't even fully explained it yet. They could still call out for help from the camera couldn't they? Also say it could capture captains. The would break out nigh instantly and possible break the camera. Also most people don't tend to stand there while someone is attempting a technique on them and this one is purely relying on sight. Not instinct, insight, or reaitsu sensing.AK: How is the careful, rational, respectful post I wrote above in any way "jumping down his throat"? Just because the idea doesn't have every detail laid out doesn't mean we can't offer critique; indeed, with such a controversial ability, speaking out early is better.
And Kuroi's right, talk of breaking out or not was ill-defined at best.

Kuroimaken
2011-11-16, 03:31 PM
I just really like swordsmen shows that show their research. So the details kinda end up notched inside my skull. I probably wouldn't be able to correctly apply all the theory in real life. :smalltongue:

Well, and then there's the actual practice.

Nicklance
2011-11-17, 05:12 PM
I'm heading out of town for a wedding, there's internet access, but free time is subjective. Sorry guys. Will be back after the weekends.

Kuroimaken
2011-11-17, 06:07 PM
See you later, Nick.

Okay, here's a thought: we seem to be raising a big stink about an ability that, as of this moment, is ill-defined at best.

So how about we wait for Hirokatsu to define it? After that, we can change things the way we want.

I trust both sides of this discussion to be able to reach a reasonable agreement. :smallsmile:

Frozen_Feet
2011-11-18, 05:43 AM
The song for Ep. 12 was chosen for maximum irony. Listen closely to the lyrics, they're pertinent to the story and especially what Lalita is thinking.

EDIT: Further commentary on the episode: incidentally, Lalita's remark to War is the core of my theory why a greenhorn like Ichigo could put a fight against beings that have practiced combat for ages more than him: in any given situation, there are only limited pieces of knowledge and skill that are actually relevant. After a point, you don't (and can't) really become "more skilled" - you're just trying to do the same thing over and over again, faster and harder each time.

Now, as my Krav Maga teacher put it, there are three things that matter in martial arts: skill, fitness and willpower. If two equally skilled fighters who are both determined to win clash, the one who is physically strongest will triumph - so on and so forth. (A great enough difference on one are can negate meaning of the other two, but that's another thing.)

Out of these, skill, as in technical ability, is the hardest to achieve as far as I know - see the 10 000 hour rule for details (tl;dr: it takes that long to master any non-trivial skill). Physical power and determination are much more fluid - especially in Bleach. And as we all know, those things Ichigo has in abundance.

And that's why he can win, or fight against likes of Gotei Captains at all. Someone like Aizen might be a veteran of thousand battles and have fought against multitudes of different enemies, but only a tiny fraction of that breadth of ability is actually usable when fighting a guy with a sword with another sword. Ichigo doesn't need to know anything close to as much as him - he only needs to be equally skilled in a very small subset of possible maneuvers. That's why he's been able to power through some of the strongest characters in the series while remaining largely ignorant of what Shinigami are supposed to know, or most of the spiritual world, really.

Thanks in advance to anyone bothering to read through this rant. :smalltongue:

Kuroimaken
2011-11-18, 05:27 PM
While I don't disagree with the notion that experience and skill can only get you so far, my theory regarding Ichigo is more along the lines of "he's the series' main character and has so much deus ex machina going for him that it's not funny". See the Ulquiorra fight for what I mean.

I DO like the notion that "not knowing something is impossible makes you more likely to succeed" as a storytelling basis, but predictions on any kind of confrontation are a mixed bag. There are WAY more than three factors that decide a battle. Ultimately, I find that in a battle of two opponents of equal skill, the one who wins is the one who screws up the least, because the other is most likely to capitalize on your mistake if he can. War's mistake so far has been to not fight seriously from the beginning, and it's yielded him more than its share of unnecessary wounds for his trouble.

I like that Lalita is fighting intelligently and having his Big Damn Awesome moment, but methinks he doth underestimate the Horse a little too much, especially considering the wounds he has so far. These guys are supposed to be the stuff of legends and ridiculously hard to tame, yet Lalita is acting like War is a speedbump (which is why War has taken this long to take the Arrancar seriously, and why even if he wins, in the current state of things, War is unlikely to accept him as its Rider).

AnimeKid
2011-11-18, 06:28 PM
Frozen didn't say battle. He said martial arts. While there may not be much of a difference (not sure as I have never taken martial arts in my life. The closest I got was reading the manga Kenichi. The author really did their research.) there is a slight one. Plus while Ichigo does have main character status that doesn't mean that it's the only reason he wins. After all he has lost plenty of times before. Plus while I will be the first to agree that Tite Kubo is a massive troll Ichigo did have explained boosts for most of his power. Training with Urahara, Urahara's special bankai training, the training with the visards It usually has an explaination. He also starts out not knowing much. Even with the visards training he doesn't get far even with his high learning curve. While he isn't as skilled I like to quote Xycon on the fact that at a certain level of power tatics just don't hold out. Plus with all uber powerful people showing up sword techniques (actual techniques) just didn't have that much meaning anymore. (that and i'm pretty sure Tite Kubo doesn't know a thing about swordsmanship, neither do I for that matter but i can bullsh*t that I do pretty well).

Anyways yeah, you both have very valid points. I just don't see why people say some people are only good because that are main characters. I can see characters getting lucky and many times they do. (Yuske Urameshi for example) However that doesn't mean they aren't skilled or powerful.

Sorry if I offended anyone and thank you guys for actually taking the time to read this.

Kuroimaken
2011-11-18, 07:28 PM
Yusuke Urameshi is kinda the polar opposite of Ichigo when you stop to think about it. Yusuke starts out as a vice-ridden good-for-nothing punk whose ONLY notable skill is brawling (and cheating, on occasion). Ichigo starts out as a fairly average guy with no particularly strong points and a Crouching Moron Hidden Badass dad secretly drilling him from day one. Yusuke is good at improvising and is actually a good deal smarter than he lets on, though he DOES get lucky (check the Genkai succession arc after he ressurrects, or the beginning of the Sensui arc for what I'm talking about). Ichigo essentially pulls things out of his ass when things get tough and is dumb as an effin' brick.

Like I said, predictions are a mixed bag when it comes to things like this. It's kinda like the good old sword versus spear or tonfa vs. whatever discussion. Every time it starts off with the assumption that each user is equal in terms of skill, then someone suggests a move that could be used, and someone else mentions that kind of move would mean one is more skilled than the other, etc..

I use the term "battle" because "martial arts" doesn't really apply here.

Frozen_Feet
2011-11-19, 05:36 AM
While I don't disagree with the notion that experience and skill can only get you so far, my theory regarding Ichigo is more along the lines of "he's the series' main character and has so much deus ex machina going for him that it's not funny". See the Ulquiorra fight for what I mean.

That might be the narrative, meta-textual reason, but remember: we're also writing a similar story, and putting characters in similar positions. We have characters who're barely adults, characters who've lived for centuries, and characters who might've as well existed forever as far as either of the former categories is interested. Yet we'll place (and have placed) characters from all of these categories at odds with each other. Because of this, it pays to think why and how these things could happen for in-story reasons as well.:smallsmile:


There are WAY more than three factors that decide a battle.

The point is that they boil down to that trinity. Ability to analyze your opponent, using the battlefield to your advantage, technique, "not screwing up" are all facets of skill. Fitness is how hard and fast you can do those things, and willpower is how willing you are to do any of them.

Those three things pretty much cover anything the combatants themselves can bring to the table. All the other little things are so fuzzy they're best summed up under the concept of "luck", and I've also heard it said that outcome of any battle between equal participants is 80% of that. :smallwink:

tgva8889
2011-11-19, 05:56 AM
Because of those ages, characters in the first category pretty much can only beat characters in the second category through such immense willpower or literally beyond superhuman fitness. There's just no possible way any Mortal could amass a skill in combat greater than that of a Shinigami, because the Shinigami are older (barring exceptionally young Shinigami or, like, Bount). So their immense willpower would have to cover that weakness. And even then they'd need fitness to match someone who's trained for combat situations for (at least for most Shinigami) half a century at worst. Seems unlikely.

Luck is always going to be a huge factor in any of the threats the Mortal cast faces. It will always be some combination of Willpower ("I have to win" vs. "They're just kids") and just dumb Luck.

Kuroimaken
2011-11-19, 08:16 AM
That might be the narrative, meta-textual reason, but remember: we're also writing a similar story, and putting characters in similar positions. We have characters who're barely adults, characters who've lived for centuries, and characters who might've as well existed forever as far as either of the former categories is interested. Yet we'll place (and have placed) characters from all of these categories at odds with each other. Because of this, it pays to think why and how these things could happen for in-story reasons as well.:smallsmile:



The point is that they boil down to that trinity. Ability to analyze your opponent, using the battlefield to your advantage, technique, "not screwing up" are all facets of skill. Fitness is how hard and fast you can do those things, and willpower is how willing you are to do any of them.

Those three things pretty much cover anything the combatants themselves can bring to the table. All the other little things are so fuzzy they're best summed up under the concept of "luck", and I've also heard it said that outcome of any battle between equal participants is 80% of that. :smallwink:

The first point I can't really argue with. I make it a point never to have one of my characters leave a battle unscathed (sparring doesn't count, and neither does the curbstomp humiliation battle spar between Jiro and Kazuma), though I tend to take it a little more easily on my mortal world characters. That said, we've rigged battles to go one way or the other for the sake of the story before.
I've also made it a point to give each of my characters at least one major flaw when it comes to combat - Kazuma, for example, is exceptionally skilled and strong for his age as a shinigami, but he's also incredibly reckless; Hasunaga pretty much has a time limit on how long he can fight (given the way his Reiatsu generation works), plus he has to fight in a fairly specific way, and he doesn't do well on continuous battles; Reiji doesn't have the means to move incredibly fast like other characters can, and has no means to survive violently massive wounds (unless we're going with this (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=226)); Rouga is slow and, despite having massive defensive power, has fewer attack capabilities to speak of; Serazel has little attack power, so he's screwed against an opponent with high defensive power (plus psychological issues); Subject 1864 is limited to how much power he's allowed to let out at any given time, which is often probably not enough; Shishiou can't make use of the full extent of his shikai on all points at once, so if he misjudges which one to use, he gets hurt badly (plus issues when he goes into hot blood mode); and finally, Soushi has limited defensive capabilities and doesn't stand up that well to pressure in melee.

Fundamentally, I believe there is no perfect fighter. Each and every last one has at least one major or minor flaw that can be exploited to achieve victory in some way, and even being aware of that flaw does not necessarily make it go away; worse, if it makes the fighter worried, he'll be unable to focus on other things. Some fighting styles also have inherent strengths over others, which makes some match-ups more likely to go in a certain way than others (though it's by no means predetermined). These are only two in a list of endless things that we can use in narrative to make a battle end satisfactorily before we resort to something like "luck".

KnightDisciple
2011-11-19, 12:15 PM
So, current status for my characters.


Masaru: Mid-fight, probably making Kazuma's eyes widen a bit at the very least.
Yoshi: Waiting for Terry's response (you had to wait a couple days for mine, I can be patient).
Kaito: Waiting for any other responses at meeting before we move forward. Leaving the cafe. Since that scene's decidedly dead anyways.
Josiah: SCIENCE! Otherwise, free for someone to drop in.
Vicente: SCIENCE! Otherwise, free for someone to drop in. Still waiting on Kayne and Riccaru to move their scene along (last post (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11990793&postcount=357) was by Kayne, so ball's to riccaru now). :smallsigh:
Cackling Oni: Wouldn't you like to know? :smallbiggrin:
Endo Shin: Not actually active yet. I need to finalize him and put him in the registry...


I think I'm going to go make a post with Kaito, and then insist to all MW players (most of whom have disappeared :smallannoyed:) that we just cut to the next day or something.

Seriously, bad enough our little meeting stalled out. Bad enough it seems like a couple of folks have basically ditched this game, or worse, are only post 1 time per month or less (which ends up being the same thing as dropping, since no one wants to wait a month for a reply). But Kayne's disappeared, which means no Samsara plot. :smallannoyed:

Anyways...*Wanders off to make what posts he can*

Oh, incidentally, I'm still not sure what to build for Endo Shin's Higher Hakuda. I'm even open to using one already made if the creator doesn't mind.

Kuroimaken
2011-11-19, 06:34 PM
KD, far as I'm concerned Ghost Mask would LOVE to know what Cackling Oni is up to. It's also been forever since I last touched Subject 1864, so that's something for Josiah as well.

KnightDisciple
2011-11-19, 07:01 PM
KD, far as I'm concerned Ghost Mask would LOVE to know what Cackling Oni is up to. It's also been forever since I last touched Subject 1864, so that's something for Josiah as well.

Hm. Time for pure, lovely chaos!!!:smallbiggrin::smallbiggrin:

Terry576
2011-11-19, 07:01 PM
Lessee...

Sora Cleared. Cleared of all charges!
HECATE In standby for creativity to strike.
Karite Waiting for Friggin Kayne to friggin post
Cecilia Waiting for AnimeKid to respond to her softcore insinuations.
Shades Not doing anything, because she's a Samsara stuck in the Valley. :smalltongue:

That's all i think.

AnimeKid
2011-11-19, 07:14 PM
yeah, sry about posting speed guys, I can only make short posts on my PS3 because of how tedious it is and my laptops charger stopped working. I will try to get on the home computer tonight, if not tommorow.

tgva8889
2011-11-20, 01:15 AM
I don't remember whether I did anything in Mortal World, but I did think I did. In any case I support moving forward.

We should get the Hunting Down Takeshi Plot and the Samsara Plot running before the end of the year. If Kayne's not here, does anyone want to take up the Samsara plot? If not, does anyone want to do anything in the middle time to help make way for it? I am perfectly willing to work on something. I have a character who is basically a plot in and of herself in the works.

horngeek
2011-11-20, 01:40 AM
Gah. Sorry for dropping posting this past week. >.<

I need to go to church soon, but I'll catch up and post where I need to as soon as I get home, 'kay?

Terry576
2011-11-20, 10:04 PM
Hey riccaru? Quick question.

How the hell could Sereg know about Vicente and Talon's plan. They never mentioned it around him. How could he know that the two random Arrancar were against him. Is he freaking Doctor Strange? And then there's the blatant godmodding with you killing two characters, and then more godmodding with you discovering the location of Talon's lair even though, if I recall correctly, Talon blindfolded them when she brought them there and back.

strawberryman
2011-11-20, 10:11 PM
I would simply like to know if Kayne gave the okay for this, regardless of whether or not he doesn't post anymore, and why, if he didn't, you didn't consult me. Because it's unbelievably inconsiderate if so.

Kuroimaken
2011-11-20, 10:20 PM
On the plus side, we're talking about two supernaturally tough creatures here. Caja Negacion is technically not a death sentence, and Bleach has enough examples of Overdrawn at the Blood Bank that we can believe the other girl is merely badly mangled.

With that said... yeah, there be some 'splainin' to do.

tgva8889
2011-11-20, 10:47 PM
By the way, Ricarru, still waiting for Nao's response to Karashi.

riccaru
2011-11-20, 11:08 PM
With a single swift motion Sereg raises his arm in a blur, launching a caja negacion into Cashin's exposed hollow hole before slinging his blade through the hole of her sister to embed into the ground behind her, pinning her in place as he calmly moves to her defenseless body. "Now child, you are alone." Behind his form Cashin can just barely be seen dissolving into nothingness. "And from henceforth on, your sister is gone. But you, you I have questions for."

Throughout the palace a sickening crunch can be heard, coming from none other than Sereg's tower. The sound of bones being broken as Sereg takes out his frustration at the past events on the young arrancar. Eventually the screams stop, Kaitlin having passed out from blood loss and shock after explaining her part in the forthcoming plans along with where Talon's lair could be.

A few hours later, Sereg is still wiping the blood from his face, the leftovers on his clothing long since dried. Kaitlin had been moved from the palacio, to be locked with the gladiators deep withing the earth under the seventh district. "Now, Vicente. It's your move."




Sereg's got a plan to question the twins if they come back. He's going to call forth the one holding their sword and use caja negacion on her, leaving the other one defenseless.

Okay, that's fine with me. Thanks for letting me know beforehand.

If you have an issue with what I posted Sereg doing, just let me know. I wanted to push this along quickly at this point, and we had already discussed most of what happened. If you want it changed, then I'll go ahead and change it:smallsmile:


Significant portions in red.

Sereg does know that Talon as well as Vicente both want him gone, and was led to believe by Talon herself that Talon had killed the twins. Seeing them resurface is both a bit of a shock and a little suspicious. That's why he questioned her.

Caja negacion is not a kill move, by any stretch. It's a way of isolating the twins since their ressureccion requires a physical link, and only one of them can possess the "aggressive" personality at a time. Sereg asked her to come forward, assuming that she would then take the aggressive side, and made her disappear, leaving the other one defenseless and passive.

"Could be" meaning "generally about this far from the city." There was no reason for the twins to tell him where it was, and every reason for them to lie. There's quite a few things they could have told Sereg in order to make it difficult or nearly impossible to know if they were lying about it or not, which is what she did. Sereg does not know where the lake is, but he thinks he knows which is an entirely different thing.

strawberryman
2011-11-20, 11:17 PM
I do not fault Sereg being suspicious, however I do fault not running this by me. There are things Kayne and I planned in the case of such a thing that would change the course of your actions, and if you are so gung-ho on going forward at the least you could have informed me. I am just as frustrated at Kayne's disappearance, however that does not mean that forcing actions through is acceptable.

riccaru
2011-11-20, 11:37 PM
I do not fault Sereg being suspicious, however I do fault not running this by me. There are things Kayne and I planned in the case of such a thing that would change the course of your actions, and if you are so gung-ho on going forward at the least you could have informed me. I am just as frustrated at Kayne's disappearance, however that does not mean that forcing actions through is acceptable.

Alright then, what were those things so we can come to a compromise?

strawberryman
2011-11-20, 11:44 PM
Nothing actually needs to change. As for what will happen, saving it for a surprise. :smalltongue:

EDIT: And with that post, I am off.

Kayne650
2011-11-21, 02:00 PM
*Slinks back, looking at the storyline rubble that he's apparently left in his wake*

So, uh, hi? Sorry to everyone for my huge absence, but a combination of schoolwork, a new job, and just being tired of the constant arguments here have resulted in my recent absence. I didn't mean to be gone for as long as I was, but I was gone for that long, and I can't change that now. However, I am here again, and I'm ready to get back to work where I'm needed.

Regarding the Hueco Mundo problem, no, Riccaru didn't talk to me about it, but that's not really his fault. I was kind of avoiding touching these boards, and he did try. I'm sorry for causing this problem, and if I'm still welcome in that plotline, then I'd like to try to get it moving again. However, if you'd rather I'd stay away from it now, I understand.

For other points of business, where else am I needed? I know that Seiko needs to respond to whatever it is that Karite did last, and Daisuke is still trying to kill Suzume. Vincent is still working on Project Shift, and I haven't yet looked to see if that's required yet. As for my other characters, it all seems rather up in the air.

So once again, I'm sorry for my absence, and I'm back, at least for the time being. Given the proximity to finals week, I can't promise consistency in posting for the next few weeks, but I'll do my best. And I'll try not to disappear again.

tgva8889
2011-11-21, 03:29 PM
Kayne, let us know when you think you'll be ready to start up the Samsara event. We're nearing ready to do that.

strawberryman
2011-11-21, 04:16 PM
Are we still on for a 1-2 week timeskip with an episode for the kid's training?

Frozen_Feet
2011-11-21, 04:22 PM
I suggest someone with characters involved just starts the episode, and people post when they're ready for it.

tgva8889
2011-11-21, 04:27 PM
I'll get started on that now.

Edit: Episode 13 up (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12256159#post12256159). Anyone want to suggest titles, feel free. Kuroimaken, since you're the one who "designed" the training area, feel free to describe everything.

AnimeKid
2011-11-21, 04:42 PM
Does this mean that when they actually fight that Chase and Koga will be significantly weaker? Not that Chase was allthat impressive to start with.

tgva8889
2011-11-21, 05:02 PM
Considerably weaker than who? Kina can barely participate in combat situations and isn't likely to improve significantly in 2 weeks. Kaito is still learning control and even after 2 weeks of training probably won't have mastered his ability to the point that he'd be significantly better (though he may be better than them). I honestly don't know what Valeria's power progression will look like so I can't comment. Sora is probably already more powerful than the twins, he just doesn't quite have the level of control that they have. I think Izumi could surpass them but it depends on how quickly she progresses. I'd think that 2 weeks would be enough for some improvement, but not so drastic as to put people in the dust.

Alternatively you could just increase their combat potential to be even with the other kids when they first fight. I mean, they haven't had a fight scene yet, so their current power level isn't quite set. As long as you post and everyone approves, you can just have the twins power level set so that it matches the others after training.

AnimeKid
2011-11-21, 05:19 PM
Okay then. Also I was thinking about super shonnen training where a week is enough for the characters to have faily high jump in power.

strawberryman
2011-11-21, 05:34 PM
Considerably weaker than who? Kina can barely participate in combat situations and isn't likely to improve significantly in 2 weeks. Kaito is still learning control and even after 2 weeks of training probably won't have mastered his ability to the point that he'd be significantly better (though he may be better than them). I honestly don't know what Valeria's power progression will look like so I can't comment. Sora is probably already more powerful than the twins, he just doesn't quite have the level of control that they have. I think Izumi could surpass them but it depends on how quickly she progresses. I'd think that 2 weeks would be enough for some improvement, but not so drastic as to put people in the dust.

Alternatively you could just increase their combat potential to be even with the other kids when they first fight. I mean, they haven't had a fight scene yet, so their current power level isn't quite set. As long as you post and everyone approves, you can just have the twins power level set so that it matches the others after training.

Valeria's power progression is mostly covered. At least when it comes to basic abilities. She can use bala, cero, and sonido. Hierro is slightly out of her grasp, but I imagine she will have it covered in her training. Pesquisa isn't improbable, but it comes down to the type of training Helena will give. Garganta will wait until it's appropriate story-wise. :smalltongue:

But on the whole, Valeria's power level is dependent on her actually destroying hollows, since she absorbs their abilities and all. So unless Helena has some live bait lined up, she's not going to advance all that much. :smallwink:

Kuroimaken
2011-11-21, 05:44 PM
Okay then. Also I was thinking about super shonnen training where a week is enough for the characters to have faily high jump in power.

Shonen manga training works because of its unusual methods and peculiarities of each setting. It has little to do with actual time spent (with some exceptions: Hajime no Ippo shows us fairly realistic training periods, since Ippo usually fights one opponent every two, three or four MONTHS in-story).

But the most important thing to remember is: the power itself isn't important, it's the character development that comes with it that is.

Kayne650
2011-11-21, 05:57 PM
All right, catch me up here: what exactly is intended to happen during this training session? Because if it's not absolutely critical, it's where I'll start the Samsara arc. I'd rather start it sooner than later, as it's been put off for long enough, and I'd intended to start it during a training session anyway. It'd be ideal if the kids were all in one place during this (preferably with the teachers as well, but the addition of Helena and Oscar may make that difficult), but I can make it work regardless.

Kuroimaken
2011-11-21, 06:11 PM
Actually, making the training a separate episode was meant so that we could have all the character development take place, real-time-wise, as the Samsara arc.

strawberryman
2011-11-21, 06:11 PM
All right, catch me up here: what exactly is intended to happen during this training session? Because if it's not absolutely critical, it's where I'll start the Samsara arc. I'd rather start it sooner than later, as it's been put off for long enough, and I'd intended to start it during a training session anyway. It'd be ideal if the kids were all in one place during this (preferably with the teachers as well, but the addition of Helena and Oscar may make that difficult), but I can make it work regardless.

Extremely unlikely. At the very least, Sora and Val will be off doing their thing. Well unless Sora keeps trying to patronize the other kids. :smalltongue: And it's likely Val will want her space from Sora until he starts being honest.

Also Hibiki has some things in store for Kaito.

Oh, also, get on AIM mister. :smalltongue:

tgva8889
2011-11-21, 06:22 PM
The training compound itself is also somewhat hidden. And I'm not sure all the kids are going to be in the same place for a while, unless that place is class, because of the different natures of their abilities. It's likely that they'll be mostly doing their own thing.

Kuroimaken
2011-11-21, 06:27 PM
They'll also be getting different tutors for their powers, most likely.

That said, Cassandra's ability should at least point her out to where the kids train; the barrier can't really cut the threads, and even if it could, Cassandra would still know that they went in there. So the kids' hideout won't exactly be secret forever, unless Kayne decides otherwise (since it's his character and his character's ability).

tgva8889
2011-11-21, 06:28 PM
I don't really know that much about either the ability or the compound, so it's up to you and Kayne. The fact that the kids are unlikely to be in the same place at the same time unless that place is class still stands, though.

Edit: Kayne, has Mayumi revealed the fact that she's a Quincy yet to the kids? My memory is absolutely terrible.

AnimeKid
2011-11-21, 06:37 PM
Well for the training period alI I can have Chase do is get better with the scythe. As for Koga he would probably be able to sprout two scythe blades from his body and increse their size from 6in to 9in. That sound good?

Kayne650
2011-11-21, 06:48 PM
They'll also be getting different tutors for their powers, most likely.

That said, Cassandra's ability should at least point her out to where the kids train; the barrier can't really cut the threads, and even if it could, Cassandra would still know that they went in there. So the kids' hideout won't exactly be secret forever, unless Kayne decides otherwise (since it's his character and his character's ability).


I don't really know that much about either the ability or the compound, so it's up to you and Kayne. The fact that the kids are unlikely to be in the same place at the same time unless that place is class still stands, though.

Edit: Kayne, has Mayumi revealed the fact that she's a Quincy yet to the kids? My memory is absolutely terrible.

Cassandra could find the place, but if it's a small enclosed area (as that particular area is), it's not ideal for the kind of confrontation that I had in mind. So instead, I'll probably have each of the kids be confronted by a different member of the Samsara individually, then saved by one of the teachers, jump-starting the arc.

As for Mayumi, she revealed to the kids that she is aware of spirits, and she's told Nakahiro what she is and what a Quincy is, and Rex probably noticed because he's better at identifying other Quincies than Kina is. The others, however, don't know unless they have another method of finding out (Hasunaga or Hibiki telling them, for example). However, it won't be a secret for much longer.

And as for the Samsara arc and the training arc taking place simultaneously, I'm a little leery of that. It could get confusing if we start referencing events in the past that haven't happened yet.

tgva8889
2011-11-21, 06:51 PM
The whole purpose of them occurring simultaneously is to move the game along. I somehow doubt that any specific events in the episode will need to be referenced, as the episode is more about specifically developing characters.

Mayumi and Kina should probably meet at some point to talk about training. Kina's been a little bit less hidden about her Quincy crosses, so Mayumi shouldn't feel strange to, say, hold her after class or something to talk. I suspect that Mayumi is knowledgeable enough to see that Kina has some potential.

strawberryman
2011-11-21, 06:55 PM
And as for the Samsara arc and the training arc taking place simultaneously, I'm a little leery of that. It could get confusing if we start referencing events in the past that haven't happened yet.

And yet you read Homestuck. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED SIR.

What tgva said, though.

Kuroimaken
2011-11-21, 06:57 PM
I understand your concern, Kayne, but we decided to do it this way so the game doesn't slow to a crawl any more than it already has.

Incidentally, if nothingclever's listening, I'd like to get started with Hasunaga training Ken. :smallamused:

Kayne650
2011-11-21, 07:02 PM
YOU SHUT UP STRAWBERRY I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT FROM YOU

As for Kina and Mayumi, I could definitely do that. I've been meaning for Mayumi to approach Kina sometime soon anyway. Maybe I'll just have her arrive at the training center and find Kina there...

Terry576
2011-11-21, 07:07 PM
Wait Kayne's back? I better brush the cobwebs off Karite...

...

...

DAMMIT KAYNE YOU TOOK SO LONG I DON'T WANNA FIND THAT POST NOMORE

tgva8889
2011-11-21, 07:07 PM
As for Kina and Mayumi, I could definitely do that. I've been meaning for Mayumi to approach Kina sometime soon anyway. Maybe I'll just have her arrive at the training center and find Kina there...

That is okay with me. Just let me have her get a bit frustrated first.

Kayne650
2011-11-21, 07:16 PM
Wait Kayne's back? I better brush the cobwebs off Karite...

...

...

DAMMIT KAYNE YOU TOOK SO LONG I DON'T WANNA FIND THAT POST NOMORE

Yeah, I tried to go looking for it, but I got bored and came back here. I'll find it though, I promise. And I'm sorry, but that duel's been going on forever!


That is okay with me. Just let me have her get a bit frustrated first.

Yeah, that makes sense. I might wait for some more of the kids to get there as well. Just let me know when you want Mayumi to drop on in!

Ammutseba
2011-11-21, 07:16 PM
Ugh. I'm sorry for not being around, but it doesn't look like I'll be back any time soon. I'll just have to enjoy this stuff from the bleachers, since it seems like every time I try to come back here, something new comes up to demand my time.

I'd really enjoy playing along, but I guess I'm just too busy to be reliable. Sorry, again.

Kuroimaken
2011-11-21, 07:27 PM
No apologies needed. RL happens.

That said, you could play with some minor characters until you can get back into the swing of things. Just my two cents though. :smallsmile:

Nicklance
2011-11-22, 06:32 AM
Heya Kayne, you could involve the Keeper in your Samsara plot if you wish to. He could 'take on' one of the kids until a teacher sweeps in for a rescue.

CMOTDibbler
2011-11-22, 08:39 AM
Ok, just curious here. Do I have the ok to use my other Bleachitp characters? I'm not really sure how to reintroduce Azmus (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8512488&postcount=46), but Higure (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8344637&postcount=32) didn't have any ties with anyone so he could have just moved in, or something. Although, the last time I had Higure "move in", he was basically ignored because he wasn't involved in the current plot... Anyone have any suggestions?

Kuroimaken
2011-11-22, 08:46 AM
Hmmm. All things considered, he could be 'tagged' by Cassandra if deemed interesting enough. One question though. How is he getting around the 1876 Haitõrei Edict (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitorei_Edict)?

CMOTDibbler
2011-11-22, 09:54 AM
Well, his sword is carried under his coat, so while illegal, it's not noticable unless he's using it.

Kuroimaken
2011-11-22, 10:15 AM
Fair enough, I suppose.

KnightDisciple
2011-11-22, 10:34 AM
Reading Mortal World, I can't help but think "Sora! Just hang up the phone! She's not the boss of you! Go apologize to your girlfriend!". :smalltongue:

Kaito would even be saying that. :smallcool:

Terry576
2011-11-22, 10:38 AM
Unfortunately, I'm not in the mood for time shenanigans KD.

See Episode 13, which is in the future, where presumably Sora and his girlfriend HIS FRIEND resolve their differences.

Frozen_Feet
2011-11-22, 10:40 AM
"Sora! Just hang up the phone! She's not the boss of you your mom! Go apologize to your girlfriend!"

Fixed it for you. :smallcool:

Terry576
2011-11-22, 10:43 AM
Considering Sora's an orphan and all, I have even more justification for his characterization! \o/

Special thanks to Froze and KD who reminded me of things Froze has not sent me messages about in forever.

KnightDisciple
2011-11-22, 11:04 AM
Considering Sora's an orphan and all, I have even more justification for his characterization! \o/

Special thanks to Froze and KD who reminded me of things Froze has not sent me messages about in forever.

...You're welcome?

Anyways, I do hope the group gets to discuss and work through Sora's "they don't have the right" spiel, because that issue probably needs talked about at some point....

Edge
2011-11-22, 12:37 PM
Hey everyone. Just want to say I am still here and still reading the threads, and to apologise for not posting in a good while. However, I've been somewhat preoccupied with finding a job, and I just started a work experience placement last week, so I have less free time than usual. Berry's getting an Episode kicked off some time today that I'll be posting in, and I'll try get a post up for Emet and Alejandro as well.

Also, I'm thinking about dropping Sören from the game, as much as I like him. I can never really seem to find anything to do with him, so I think it's probably best if I shelve him, unless a number of people really wanted to see that possible school play arc/episode.

strawberryman
2011-11-22, 12:40 PM
Speak of the devil! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12260685)

Frozen_Feet
2011-11-22, 02:21 PM
Also, I'm thinking about dropping Sören from the game, as much as I like him. I can never really seem to find anything to do with him, so I think it's probably best if I shelve him, unless a number of people really wanted to see that possible school play arc/episode.

I suggest we keep him as a background character, and just assume he's doing something. Mainly for the case I want Yui to make a callback to the meeting they and Silva had in the park ages ago. :smallsmile:

AnimeKid
2011-11-22, 02:49 PM
Hey guys, is it okay if I have Chase and Koga do some training to? Maybe their father upped their training because of a feeling in his bones or his sensed the energy of vengeful spirits(doesn't know thier called hollows)? I'm mostly asking this so I have something to do (was starting to get a little bored) and because I've never posted in an episode thread before.:smallbiggrin:

Nicklance
2011-11-22, 05:04 PM
Heya CMOT I've not forgotten about the sparring session between Myojin and Aya, I'll get to it when I'm back from work.

CMOTDibbler
2011-11-22, 07:35 PM
No rush, Nicklance. I just figured in the interim I'd see what was up with my other characters.

EDIT: Hey, is Dorizzit still on here? My arrancar, Azmus was a fraccion to his espada, Sabas.

strawberryman
2011-11-22, 08:16 PM
As Henry lies in THE HEALING RAYS OF THE SUN, he makes a noise along the lines of "Wstfuglg." The photosythetic powers DO seem to be working, however. In fact, as the ambulance arrives, he might just be beginning to stir.

I'll leave this here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4utKWsS52I8&t=045s)

Dorizzit
2011-11-22, 08:50 PM
Still here.

CMOTDibbler
2011-11-22, 11:20 PM
Sweet! So, yeah... about that fraccion...

tgva8889
2011-11-23, 01:33 AM
Hey Kayne, just a heads up, but Kina's mother isn't a Quincy at all. Neither of her parents are. Her father is actually biologically part of the Quincy line, but he refused his heritage long ago. Unless Mayumi was talking about someone else's mother, in which case well I feel silly.

After reading it again I think you're talking about Mayumi's mother, so yeah, woo. :smallredface:

I'll get on posting an actual response tomorrow.

strawberryman
2011-11-23, 02:22 AM
It would not be unreasonable for Kaito to get the idea that Hibiki is trying to kill him.

And to a degree, he would be right.

horngeek
2011-11-23, 02:32 AM
Remember, Izumi will, at some point, be wanting to learn Kido. :smalltongue:

strawberryman
2011-11-23, 02:37 AM
Lucky for Izumi that's pretty straightforward.

Simply swimming across a TANK FILLED WITH SHARKS WITH FRICKIN' LASERS ATTACHED TO THEIR HEADS to get a scroll.

horngeek
2011-11-23, 03:15 AM
Lucky for Izumi that's pretty straightforward.

Simply swimming across a TANK FILLED WITH SHARKS WITH FRICKIN' LASERS ATTACHED TO THEIR HEADS to get a scroll.

"Anything to get away from my brother and his sword training..."

tgva8889
2011-11-23, 03:25 AM
Hmm, do you think Hibiki and Karashi would know each other?

Dorizzit
2011-11-23, 10:23 AM
Sweet! So, yeah... about that fraccion...

Feel free to jump back in at any time. Sabas is primarily a reactive character (onscreen, at least), so Azmus has a pretty loose rein to do whatever you want.

maximus25
2011-11-23, 04:58 PM
I need to do something with Takeru... maybe have him train? He's sort of in limbo right now.

CMOTDibbler
2011-11-24, 12:53 AM
Feel free to jump back in at any time. Sabas is primarily a reactive character (onscreen, at least), so Azmus has a pretty loose rein to do whatever you want.

Ok, cool. I appreciate the go-ahead.

Kayne650
2011-11-24, 09:31 PM
Heya Kayne, you could involve the Keeper in your Samsara plot if you wish to. He could 'take on' one of the kids until a teacher sweeps in for a rescue.

I may just do that. I'm still working out some kinks in the storyline in general, and it'll be a bit longer before I get it started, due to work and school eating my life. Also, we may need to have a discussion regarding power level in that case.


Hey Kayne, just a heads up, but Kina's mother isn't a Quincy at all. Neither of her parents are. Her father is actually biologically part of the Quincy line, but he refused his heritage long ago. Unless Mayumi was talking about someone else's mother, in which case well I feel silly.

After reading it again I think you're talking about Mayumi's mother, so yeah, woo. :smallredface:

I'll get on posting an actual response tomorrow.

Yeah, Mayumi was referring to her own mother, not Kina's. In Mayumi's history, and in the history of the Yamashiro family, I mention that Mayumi's mother was an extremely important figure in her life. Therefore, it was quite a high compliment (though not one that Kina knows about yet) to be compared to Mayumi's mother. Even though her name currently escapes me. :smalltongue:

AnimeKid
2011-11-24, 09:35 PM
Kyoki and Ragunaroku: Waiting on Cecelia to respond to her miniature rant.

Jiro: Still at the training ground

Chase and Koga: Waiting for responses to Chase's introduction to the other kids in the mortal world. Likely to be assumed to skip to the next day.

Everything seems to be going okay. Also Episode 13 looks fun from what I've read. Also, Terry is Sora's sister supposed to be his Zanpakuto?

strawberryman
2011-11-25, 03:38 PM
All right, any ideas for a defensive hollow ability? I have a few, but leaving it up to the playerbase. :smalltongue:

Hollow Ideas:
Tortodon: A tortoise-like hollow with a long, flexible neck and serpentine head. Can harden its shell by retracting all its limbs and head.
Harden Shell: While Valeria adopts this ability, her skin hardens as if it were under the effects of super-tough hierro.
Iron Maiden: This ape-like hollow is covered in iron-hard chitinous plates. The plates make her resistant to physical damage, and they also behave oddly like sekkisekki, reducing the impact of cero and kido.
Mighty Guard: Valeria gains chitinous sekki-sekki-like plates around her arms. They can be used to block and reduce the impact of physical attacks, and also act as a sort of shield when imposed towards a spiritual attack. Finally, Valeria can move these plates to another person by touching them, however they must stay within 30 feet of Valeria.

In case you're wondering, Valeria's abilities are categorized by color.
Red are fire and mostly attack abilities, Orange is light, encompassing abilities that are light-themed, which could include healing, Yellow is earth, mostly of defensive nature. Green is wind, and also plantoid-type hollow abilities. A mixed bag. Blue includes water and ice. Probably mostly attack abilities. Indigo is darkness, the opposition to light, including attack abilities and the debilitating poisonous abilities she's acquired or will acquire. Finally, Violet encompasses electric abilities. Also mostly attacks.

Why are Val's abilities based on the color of a rainbow? Well, you'll just have to see, won't you. :smalltongue:

Frozen_Feet
2011-11-25, 03:45 PM
Shadow: a two dimensional creature. Gained ability: to become thin as paper to become hard to detect, to slip through cracks, or to avoid blows.

Goo: a blob monster. Gained ability: flow around blows like quicksilver. Must still stay in one piece.

Ghost: an intangible spirit. Gained ability: temporary immaterialness.

AnimeKid
2011-11-25, 03:57 PM
I would say the Iron Maiden power would work best for her. She seems like the type to defend other people rather than herself. Oh yeah, Straw is ther anything that I can do at the moment? Maybe control any NPC's since all of my characters are at a forced standstill?

Draken
2011-11-25, 05:50 PM
Shadow: a two dimensional creature. Gained ability: to become thin as paper to become hard to detect, to slip through cracks, or to avoid blows.

Goo: a blob monster. Gained ability: flow around blows like quicksilver. Must still stay in one piece.

Ghost: an intangible spirit. Gained ability: temporary immaterialness.

I don't think anyone wants Draken getting his hands on an immaterial hollow again, ever.

CMOTDibbler
2011-11-26, 12:04 AM
So. A few questions again. Sorry about all these. :smallfrown:

1. I've been looking at other people's characters, and I noticed something I'm missing. Azmus, my arrancar, has no aspect of death. Is there a list of these, and would someone care to help me think of one if there isn't, etc?

2. I'm kinda worried about just jumping into anything in the Mortal World, or Hueco Mundo. I'm not exactly sure how to go about inserting myself into either of those, since my characters there are basically unknown of, and I have no idea what's happening. What should I do?

Thanks in advance to anyone that helps with these. :smallredface:

Draken
2011-11-26, 12:33 AM
Anything that can cause death can be regarded as an aspect of death. It ranges from obvious things such as Thirst or Starvation, to conceptually broad aspects not wholy devoted to death (Leadership, Madness), to the tried and true Sins (Pride, Lust), to objective causa mortis (bear [attack]), to the objectively defining necessity of an entity to be afflicted by death (Life - I changed a bit ago, was a more obvious match to his necromancia).

Including yourself in a scene is not supposed to be daunting, but if you feel so, see if anyone wants to start a scene and work out a basic interaction to happen.

Terry576
2011-11-26, 01:04 AM
Kyoki and Ragunaroku: Waiting on Cecelia to respond to her miniature rant.

Jiro: Still at the training ground

Chase and Koga: Waiting for responses to Chase's introduction to the other kids in the mortal world. Likely to be assumed to skip to the next day.

Everything seems to be going okay. Also Episode 13 looks fun from what I've read. Also, Terry is Sora's sister supposed to be his Zanpakuto?

Your question is PLOTPLOTPLOTPLOT. So I refuse to answer it.

I'll respond to Kyoki in a minute.

Kuroimaken
2011-11-26, 09:57 AM
So. A few questions again. Sorry about all these. :smallfrown:

1. I've been looking at other people's characters, and I noticed something I'm missing. Azmus, my arrancar, has no aspect of death. Is there a list of these, and would someone care to help me think of one if there isn't, etc?

2. I'm kinda worried about just jumping into anything in the Mortal World, or Hueco Mundo. I'm not exactly sure how to go about inserting myself into either of those, since my characters there are basically unknown of, and I have no idea what's happening. What should I do?

Thanks in advance to anyone that helps with these. :smallredface:

Can you point me to your Mortal World character? One of mine may well fit the bill.

CMOTDibbler
2011-11-26, 12:41 PM
Anything that can cause death can be regarded as an aspect of death. It ranges from obvious things such as Thirst or Starvation, to conceptually broad aspects not wholy devoted to death (Leadership, Madness), to the tried and true Sins (Pride, Lust), to objective causa mortis (bear [attack]), to the objectively defining necessity of an entity to be afflicted by death (Life - I changed a bit ago, was a more obvious match to his necromancia).

Including yourself in a scene is not supposed to be daunting, but if you feel so, see if anyone wants to start a scene and work out a basic interaction to happen.

That was certainly helpful, thank you. I'm thinking maybe deceit, then, for Azmus (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8512488&postcount=46)? :smallbiggrin:


Can you point me to your Mortal World character? One of mine may well fit the bill.

Sure thing. He's right here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8344637&postcount=32).

Kuroimaken
2011-11-26, 01:09 PM
That was certainly helpful, thank you. I'm thinking maybe deceit, then, for Azmus (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8512488&postcount=46)? :smallbiggrin:



Sure thing. He's right here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8344637&postcount=32).

Seems like one of those guys that Reiji would like to have on his employ. You wouldn't BELIEVE how useful a chemistry major could be as far as off-the-records forensic analysis and such could go, especially if he can see spirits, which means Reiji can ask favors through spirit proxies.

CMOTDibbler
2011-11-26, 01:59 PM
Seems like one of those guys that Reiji would like to have on his employ. You wouldn't BELIEVE how useful a chemistry major could be as far as off-the-records forensic analysis and such could go, especially if he can see spirits, which means Reiji can ask favors through spirit proxies.

I'm sure Higure would be happy to help. How should they meet, then?

Kuroimaken
2011-11-26, 04:57 PM
Meeting at the courthouse would probably be appropriate.

As a sidenote for those accompanying Episode 12: Chiodo di Bara di Fiamma = Flame Coffin Nail.

Why, I know they don't LOOK like nails, but that's part of the fun, ain't it?

KnightDisciple
2011-11-26, 05:43 PM
Cackling Oni is pretty convinced that 99% of life's problems can be corrected with the judicious use of more gun (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoreDakka) and making things explode (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MacrossMissileMassacre).

Frozen_Feet
2011-11-26, 05:57 PM
... and so continues the running gag of Lalita getting his arms brutally maimed as the result of his fights. :smallcool:

Kuroimaken
2011-11-26, 07:11 PM
Cackling Oni is pretty convinced that 99% of life's problems can be corrected with the judicious use of more gun (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoreDakka) and making things explode (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MacrossMissileMassacre).

War approves of this.

KnightDisciple
2011-11-26, 07:22 PM
War approves of this.

....Oh dear. Ohdear ohdear.

Kuroi, are you pondering what I'm pondering?

EDIT: Do you want to "timeskip" a bit, and have me contrive a situation for Oni and Mask to meet in-person?

Kuroimaken
2011-11-26, 07:31 PM
Maybe KD, but how would we make bologna cheese out of broccoli and pretzels?

I'm fine with whatever. Though I'd LOVE to see CO fume just a teensy tiny bit.

KnightDisciple
2011-11-26, 07:34 PM
Maybe KD, but how would we make bologna cheese out of broccoli and pretzels?WITH SCIENCE!!! (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a35/BuckGodot/MAD_Science.jpg)


I'm fine with whatever. Though I'd LOVE to see CO fume just a teensy tiny bit.
Fair enough. I'll do just that. :smallcool:

strawberryman
2011-11-26, 09:41 PM
Ok, I think I'll go with Iron Maiden. :smalltongue:

Nicklance
2011-11-27, 03:41 AM
I'm not sure what you mean by 'call' Kuroi. Wanna elaborate?

Kuroimaken
2011-11-27, 06:58 AM
He meant that she gets to pick whether she wants to beat up Genny or Hanny, but he gets to beat up whoever she didn't pick.

Frozen_Feet
2011-11-27, 12:37 PM
*eye roll*

At least one of them is doomed whatever happens. :smalltongue:

Frozen_Feet
2011-11-27, 01:36 PM
Draken, in the case you missed it, Lalita's looking for the Infante watching over Decimo Sector. :smallwink:

strawberryman
2011-11-27, 03:49 PM
Ok, so, when are we going to go through the 2-week timeskip? Unless Kayne splits the "event" between several locations, I think we ought to have some sort of meeting, whether in the training episode (during the skip) or in the main thread (after the skip) so whatever Kayne is planning can happen.

Speaking of which, have a few abilities for Val to have accrued over the training week span. Not all that need be covered onscreen. This isn't including Mighty Guard.

Freezing Breath: Valeria breathes supercold air that freezes foes.
Flameburst: Valeria releases a burning bomb not unlike a cero from her hand that explodes in a wide area on contact.
Blitzstrahl: Valeria's hands are coated in electrical energy, allowing her to strike with shocking punches, or channel it through handled weapons. The electricity can temporarily stun or disorient foes by disrupting their body.

That covers all the colors so far within Val's powers, so I'll leave the last to suggestion for a while. I'm basing a lot of these on FFXI's blue mage (http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Blue_Mage#Blue_Magic) and also pokemon moves (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_moves), so someone with an interesting ability idea that is not shamelessly ripped is welcome. XD

Though for example, the reason I took Mighty Guard over Frozen_Feet's suggestions is that they never fully modify Val's body. They usually provide minute additions, if any at all.

tgva8889
2011-11-27, 08:11 PM
Yeah, Mayumi was referring to her own mother, not Kina's. In Mayumi's history, and in the history of the Yamashiro family, I mention that Mayumi's mother was an extremely important figure in her life. Therefore, it was quite a high compliment (though not one that Kina knows about yet) to be compared to Mayumi's mother. Even though her name currently escapes me. :smalltongue:

Yeah, I figured that out after reading it over a few times. Makes more sense that way, I think. :smallredface:

Kayne650
2011-11-27, 08:48 PM
CONCERNING THE SAMSARA ARC: To whomever it may concern:
While a meeting regarding all this would be nice, it's probably not actually feasible, since I distinctly recall asking for a response in this very thread from every Samsara player, and never getting more than three responses. So, here's what I have in mind, in general terms so as to avoid any unnecessary spoilers.

I intend to start it in it's own Episode. I think that arcs like these are why we have the separate Episodes in the first place, and this has been my intention from the beginning. Ideally, I'd have in two Episodes, with the first ending in a nice cliffhanger; however, that's a little too complicated, given how much trouble we have with finishing even a single short arc, much less one of this size.

I do intend to have the starting fights in different locations, but I think attempting to plan much beyond that is asking for trouble. However, I have both a starting point and an end in mind, and several ways to get from the one to the other. I will be giving each Samsara player a target to start with, and (in the Episode thread), they will start with a battle between that Samsara and that/those mortal character(s). I will be trying to avoid having players fight themselves (e.g. Valeria vs. Magnus), to keep confusion to a minimum, and to keep the battles interesting. I already have some match-ups in mind, and will be PMing those to Samsara players. Mortal world players will not know which Samsara are targeting which characters, to keep things interesting.

When will it start? That depends on several factors, most tellingly how much input it will require from me directly. The beginning probably won't need much guidance from me, because it will be the kids getting attacked, the teachers driving off the Samsara, and then their reaction. If you're reading this Edge, I ask that you not scrap Soren, because he will be getting exercise in this arc. I'll need as many teachers as possible to keep the battles even, and to give the Samsara reason to not kill the kids when they meet them. So, I'll probably be starting it in the coming week, perhaps as early as Wednesday or Thursday, depending on how quickly I can get things in order.

So, a quick cast list. On the Samsara's side, I have: Strawberry, as Magnus.
Wahrheit, as Cha-Cha.
Dorizzit, as Sumiko.
Nick, as The Keeper.
Sucrose, as Yu Shen (Are you still playing this?)
Terry, as [Insert Samsara name here]
Riccaru, as Aell
Kayne650, as Cassandra
???, as Big Boss.

On the kid's side, we have: KD, as Kaito Watanabe.
Strawberry, as Valeria Abel.
Terry, as Sora Namikaze.
TGVA, as Kina Yashimoto.
Dorizzit, as Nakahiro Wada.
Nothingclever, as Ken Go.
Horngeek, as Izumi Hayashi.
Wahrheit, as Rex Irons.
AnimeKid, as Chase and Koga Suzaku.

As teachers, we have: Kayne650, as Mayumi Yamashiro.
Strawberry, as Hibiki Hamasaki.
Edge, as Soren Stein. (hopefully?)
Kuroimaken, as Heiaki Hasunaga, and Hakusai/Byakusai/Yuurei no Kamen/whatever the hell Kuroi's calling him now. Not technically a teacher, but close enough.

As a poor bystander, we have Frozen_Feet, as Mihail. Poor Mihail.

Also, Elder was tagged. I don't think she'll be involved in this, given her absurd power level.

And there you have it. In regards to Rex and Cha-Cha, Wahrheit has assured me that he'll be returning this coming week. If there any questions, any characters I missed, or people who have ceased playing while I was gone, please let me know. Thanks for reading this, anyone who made it to the end!

EDIT: Added in Byakusai to the teacher's section, as well as Chase and Koga to the kid's page. Sorry y'all, there are a lot of people in here.

Kuroimaken
2011-11-27, 09:21 PM
Wasn't Byakusai tagged too? Or am I trippin'?

Speaking of NC, Hasunaga has a lotta coaching to do and no one to do it with!

AnimeKid
2011-11-27, 09:22 PM
Umm, Kayne can I have Koga and Chase be in this on the kids side? If that will make things to complicated or hard for you or anyone else I can not do it.

KnightDisciple
2011-11-27, 09:32 PM
Wasn't Byakusai tagged too? Or am I trippin'?

Speaking of NC, Hasunaga has a lotta coaching to do and no one to do it with!

Try PMing him.

Also, I PM'ed Riccaru about HM, but he hasn't responded. Could someone else send him one.

As for Byakusai, he'll be busy, don't you think? :smallamused:

Kayne650
2011-11-27, 09:34 PM
Byakusai may well be busy with Cackling Oni, but it would be nice having another adult handy. I also added Chase, Koga, and Byakusai to the cast list, so that's that.

EDIT: I can also send Riccaru a PM about the HM thread right now. In fact, that is what I will do. Right now. RIGHT THE HECK NOW.

Even though I did think "hidden machine" when I first read HM. :smallbiggrin:

CMOTDibbler
2011-11-28, 12:01 AM
So... Myojin is stuck in a sparring match, in the same post he was in on the 6th. It's the 27th. I'm sorry, but I'm starting to get a little impatient. I realize not much has happened in the Soul Society recently, but still. 21 days is quite a bit to wait. Sorry, done with the complaining now. I know better than most that RL can get in the way sometimes.

Frozen_Feet
2011-11-28, 02:51 AM
Also, Elder was tagged. I don't think she'll be involved in this, given her absurd power level.


If she'll be around, she'll likely be present as Yui, or again at the very end when the kids have already won - though currently, if she'll be present at all depends on whether Ep. 11 will finish by then.

Which depends on horngeek posting.

Kuroimaken
2011-11-28, 07:15 AM
Try PMing him.

Also, I PM'ed Riccaru about HM, but he hasn't responded. Could someone else send him one.

As for Byakusai, he'll be busy, don't you think? :smallamused:

I have. No answer.

KnightDisciple
2011-11-28, 12:02 PM
I have. No answer.

Well, he did finally respond in Hueco Mundo. Now we need Kayne to do a reply, and maybe if riccaru, draken, kayne, berry, and myself can keep on top of things, we can finally move this puppy along a little bit.

Edge
2011-11-28, 12:47 PM
Message received, Kayne. Sören shall stay.

Kayne650
2011-11-29, 02:47 PM
Message received, Kayne. Sören shall stay.

YAY! Thanks, Edge. I was actually counting on Soren for some of the match-ups that I had in mind. It'll be nice for the game to actually see a Bount in real combat.

Also, I should be sending out the PMs for Samsara targets today, so Samsara players, check your inboxes.

Also, TGVA, I'm waiting on you in the training episode.

Mina Kobold
2011-11-29, 02:54 PM
>_>
<_<

I really need to participate more so I can actually provide something useful to this thread.

I apologise greatly for asking again, real life and general tiredness joined forces to drag me from the computer for a while, but is there anywhere in the Mortal World where I could introduce Misaki (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11524371&postcount=349) soon without messing up somebody's plans and fun? I really hope I can actually get into BleachITP and help everybody have fun. :smallsmile:

strawberryman
2011-11-29, 03:10 PM
Nice choice of music, Kayne. :smalltongue:

HirokatsuGoto
2011-11-29, 03:12 PM
sorry i havent been around...life is pulling me in many directions at the moment...is there anything i am needed for? All i know of that i am active in is the separate episode thread for me as well as Taro watching a spar...which i will be able to jump back in soon...if anything has happened in a while

let me know here or PM is i am needed or asked anything...

i hope you are all well

strawberryman
2011-11-29, 03:21 PM
>_>
<_<

I really need to participate more so I can actually provide something useful to this thread.

I apologise greatly for asking again, real life and general tiredness joined forces to drag me from the computer for a while, but is there anywhere in the Mortal World where I could introduce Misaki (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11524371&postcount=349) soon without messing up somebody's plans and fun? I really hope I can actually get into BleachITP and help everybody have fun. :smallsmile:

Well, Viatrix (http://bleachitp-reborn.wikidot.com/characters:viatrix-klossner) could use some company/customers at her shop. :smalltongue:

Mina Kobold
2011-11-29, 03:48 PM
Well, Viatrix (http://bleachitp-reborn.wikidot.com/characters:viatrix-klossner) could use some company/customers at her shop. :smalltongue:

Certainly a possibility, although that would probably require her to realise that spirits exist first. :smallsmile:

Not that it would be a problem, I just need to find a horrible soul-stealing creature of death to throw her at, or possibly a Hollow. :3

tgva8889
2011-11-29, 03:59 PM
Sorry, I've been busy recently. It may be a little while before I post a really good post again. It's been a bit stressful in my life.

Kayne650
2011-11-29, 04:14 PM
I completely understand that. I just wanted to make sure you didn't forget. :smallbiggrin:

Edge
2011-11-29, 04:37 PM
Didn't someone post up a rough guide to designing Necromancia somewhere, or did I imagine that? I'm only asking because I might finally get around to designing Aléjandro's Necromancia soon, and have him introduce himself to the new Primera.

EDIT: Nevermind, berryman sent me a link. Related to my original point, though, I've retconned Aléjandro's Aspect of Death from Abeyance to Complacency. Minor difference, but I felt I needed to make it. So, if people come up with any ideas for Necromancia based on that Aspect, I'd love it if you could shoot me a PM. No need to clutter the thread with them. Thanks.

Nicklance
2011-11-29, 04:51 PM
So... Myojin is stuck in a sparring match, in the same post he was in on the 6th. It's the 27th. I'm sorry, but I'm starting to get a little impatient. I realize not much has happened in the Soul Society recently, but still. 21 days is quite a bit to wait. Sorry, done with the complaining now. I know better than most that RL can get in the way sometimes.

I apologise, but yes RL got in the way really badly.


sorry i havent been around...life is pulling me in many directions at the moment...is there anything i am needed for? All i know of that i am active in is the separate episode thread for me as well as Taro watching a spar...which i will be able to jump back in soon...if anything has happened in a while

let me know here or PM is i am needed or asked anything...

i hope you are all well

I will resume the sparring, and see if you're alright with taking Taro back under your control.

But not today! I'm still swamped! :smalleek:

Frozen_Feet
2011-11-29, 04:55 PM
EDIT: Nevermind, berryman sent me a link. Related to my original point, though, I've retconned Aléjandro's Aspect of Death from Abeyance to Complacency. Minor difference, but I felt I needed to make it. So, if people come up with any ideas for Necromancia based on that Aspect, I'd love it if you could shoot me a PM. No need to clutter the thread with them. Thanks.

Fundamental: "Why don't we just have some tea?" Emotions of those subject to his Reiatsu are dulled and they become suspect to becoming disinterested at whatever they were doing.

Edge
2011-11-29, 05:03 PM
Fundamental: "Why don't we just have some tea?" Emotions of those subject to his Reiatsu are dulled and they become suspect to becoming disinterested at whatever they were doing.

As hilarious as this is, I'll probably have to say no to it. Mind-affecting abilities just don't work in FFRP. For that reason, whatever I decide upon for Aléjandro's Fundamental will replace the Face of Regret ability currently in his writeup (which is going away on similar grounds).

Also: would a spell that summons a dragon hollow to fight on the caster's behalf be in-theme for Complacency necromancia, and is such an effect even within the bounds of possibility for necromancia?

Kuroimaken
2011-11-29, 06:16 PM
Well, I don't think it would be a very REALISTIC dragon, i.e. it would probably be a mass of energy in the shape of a dragon...

...unless you're Von Geister.

Draken
2011-11-29, 07:23 PM
As hilarious as this is, I'll probably have to say no to it. Mind-affecting abilities just don't work in FFRP. For that reason, whatever I decide upon for Aléjandro's Fundamental will replace the Face of Regret ability currently in his writeup (which is going away on similar grounds).

Also: would a spell that summons a dragon hollow to fight on the caster's behalf be in-theme for Complacency necromancia, and is such an effect even within the bounds of possibility for necromancia?

You need to be able to rationalize it along the precepts of the aspect of death and the fundamental, most likely.

Von Geister has his Servant spells, they create constructs. His fundamental creates the organic matter that serves as the basis for such constructs and his aspect of death plays right into it (I retconned it to Life :smalltongue:).

Stretch it as far as you can, but it has to be rationalized somehow. Summoning a different hollow to help you would be relatively simple (a necromancia involving garganta principles), I presume.

Vulkan
2011-11-30, 05:09 PM
I'm sorry I'm currently dealing with some family grievances. For the show to go on and likely move at a quicker pace I would like to ask anyone if they would like to take over Mimus for the next 1 or more weeks.

Would of just PMed someone but I don't know anyone off the top of my head or friendly enough with anyone.

Nicklance
2011-11-30, 05:13 PM
Von Geister's Servant spells (heh) summons living constructs. Cuerva's Starvation spells create edibles and manipulates edibles/inedible objects.

For Complacency, perhaps he really is as strong as he thinks, but gets progressively weaker when he begins to have even a hint of reasonable doubt on his own capabilities. So as a Fundamental it would be a great buff spell, but facing clear superiors it would not offer much.

Frozen_Feet
2011-11-30, 05:31 PM
An idea: the actual dragon is just a normal draconic Hollow, summoned via shouting and/or Garganta - something any Hollow could replicate.

The catch is that Alejandro's ability makes otherwise headstrong creature complacent in following him and obeying his orders. :smallwink:

Other possibilities: Alejandro's ability might make himself or his pet dragon immune to pain, hunger or exhaustion.

KerfuffleMach2
2011-12-01, 11:56 PM
Character status thingy!

Silva: Episode 11, still in a fight with Akio.
Alysha: Soul Society, training with Hachirou and Koujin. Probably heard whatever's going on, but I want to wait for Mage and Frozen before assuming that.
Ivaz: Still trying to get to where Mei and Ruwa are fighting.

Terry576
2011-12-04, 12:14 AM
Sora: Posting right now.
Hecate: I unno, she's chilling with Yoshi and investigating.
Karite: Kayne I'm going to kill you.
Cecilia: I need to post with her.
Aura: Missing in Ep. 14 right now.

man i need to make more characters you guys

tgva8889
2011-12-04, 12:27 AM
Sorry, I'm dealing with a bunch of final projects and exams and shizz, I will try to post in the Episode thread whenever I can but I am super super busy right now and mentally drained.

Edit: Terry, I think I have the same number of characters as you (maybe 4.5 if you count Armin as half a character). What are you talking about? :smalltongue:

Draken
2011-12-04, 12:42 AM
Hey, my post to the two of you (Terry and Knight) indicated that what was happening in Laboratory 52 was being recorded. Nobody going to check that?

KnightDisciple
2011-12-04, 02:19 AM
Hey, my post to the two of you (Terry and Knight) indicated that what was happening in Laboratory 52 was being recorded. Nobody going to check that?

...I missed it, sorry. It's been a busy week.

Terry, have HECATE show initiative and check that. I'm already doing a lot of posting for this. :smalltongue:

Terry576
2011-12-04, 03:45 AM
Considering that Hecate has innate access to the system database, she would be the most logical candidate. :smallwink:

CMOTDibbler
2011-12-05, 07:23 AM
Something interesting, mostly for strawberryman. Myojin is over 200 years older than even the Commander General. This could mean that he knew Myojin before he became General, possibly even as the Vice Captain he was. Just something I thought about.

Kuroimaken
2011-12-05, 06:31 PM
Okay, here's a thought for a small plotline waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead in the future for Kazuma.

Y'know how Vizards come around when Hollows infect a Shinigami and whatnot?

So far we've seen all Shinigami at most control their Hollow half.

But it's never implied they cannot be permanently erased.

Just a thought, though. It's something I was considering to give Kazuma more depth and make him majorly badass without resorting to Bankai (which, if he even attains, will be by the end of this game).

Kayne650
2011-12-06, 12:48 AM
Sora: Posting right now.
Hecate: I unno, she's chilling with Yoshi and investigating.
Karite: Kayne I'm going to kill you.
Cecilia: I need to post with her.
Aura: Missing in Ep. 14 right now.

man i need to make more characters you guys

You know, I honestly hadn't seen that post. I must have missed it somehow with all the lab 52 nonsense, which both of my SS characters are now involved in. Regardless, I did just post, and I'm sorry. :smallbiggrin:

InyutheBeatIs
2011-12-10, 11:14 PM
Hello everyone (again)! Hope no one has forgotten me yet.

So, to explain my absence, this year I participated in NaNoWriMo, so I have been tied up with that for the month. As for afterwards, well, I pretty much can blame that on being tired.

At this point, I realize I've been shuffling in and out of the game a lot lately. Because of that, I was wondering if I was still welcome in this game at all.

Draken
2011-12-11, 12:20 AM
Hello everyone (again)! Hope no one has forgotten me yet.

So, to explain my absence, this year I participated in NaNoWriMo, so I have been tied up with that for the month. As for afterwards, well, I pretty much can blame that on being tired.

At this point, I realize I've been shuffling in and out of the game a lot lately. Because of that, I was wondering if I was still welcome in this game at all.

We are not that nasty. You are always welcome.

Plus, I think you left without leaving anyone hanging, so it is ok.

tgva8889
2011-12-11, 12:48 AM
Still got 4 more days of hectic heavy workload. But I may post tomorrow as stress relief or a break from work or something. Sorry for my absence. I have something major in planning to make up for it.

Kuroimaken
2011-12-11, 08:07 AM
Hello everyone (again)! Hope no one has forgotten me yet.

So, to explain my absence, this year I participated in NaNoWriMo, so I have been tied up with that for the month. As for afterwards, well, I pretty much can blame that on being tired.

At this point, I realize I've been shuffling in and out of the game a lot lately. Because of that, I was wondering if I was still welcome in this game at all.

Just get to posting when you can, dude. Welcome back.

KnightDisciple
2011-12-12, 12:28 AM
Doing this again...

Masaru: In Soul Society, waiting for results of Yoshi's leadership efforts, and HECATE's potential database search.
Yoshi: Waiting for the fruits of his decisions, HECATE's searches, and maybe something from Draken? I really have no idea what's going on, and am trying desperately to no muck it up as I wing it.
Kaito: In main timestream...waiting for Samsara arc to kick off, I guess. In Training Episode, waiting for response from Berry.
Josiah: Waiting for a response in the Bifrost Episode.
Vicente: Waiting for the fight in Sereg's palace to move along. :smallsigh:
Cackling Oni: Fightin'! :smallbiggrin:
Endo Shin: Not actually active yet. I need to finalize him and put him in the registry...Maybe get some help/suggestions on a Higher Hakudo from the community?

I almost feel bad that it seems like Kuroi and I are the only ones to post for something like half the week, at least...

Kuroimaken
2011-12-12, 08:01 AM
Hectic end of the year is hectic, but yeah, this feels a little slower than usual.

Heck, the OPitP game is showing more action right now.

Kazuma: Waiting for Ryouichi to tell him whether to scoot or help on the search.
Shishiou: Right now? Nothing much. He could stand to go on a date with Aya. And maybe after that we'd get the Kidou defector plot going?
Soushi: Pouting and complaining that he didn't get to see Daisuke's first time. :smalltongue:
Serazel: STILL waiting for the Ruwa/Mei fight to move along.
Rouga: Either waiting for Genoveva to bring it on, or for him to train Adam.
Reiji: Fightin'!
Hasunaga: Nothing much right now, still in Reborn cosplay.
Subject 1864: Waiting for Operation Bifrost to commence.

Draken
2011-12-12, 08:36 AM
I am mostly waiting on Terry.

Terry576
2011-12-12, 11:09 AM
Posted in Ep13 forever ago Draken.

And I'm unsure what the hell is going on in SS, and can't figure out what Hecate was supposed to look up.

Draken
2011-12-12, 11:44 AM
Ah. I will have to check that.

As for SS, all you need to do is say that Hecate searches up the videodata I indicated on one of my spoilered posts. Then I will give some more background. Yoshi could also pull it out, but I think he would need to go to another building and use a terminal for that.

KnightDisciple
2011-12-12, 11:45 AM
Hey, my post to the two of you (Terry and Knight) indicated that what was happening in Laboratory 52 was being recorded. Nobody going to check that?


Posted in Ep13 forever ago Draken.

And I'm unsure what the hell is going on in SS, and can't figure out what Hecate was supposed to look up.


Ah. I will have to check that.

As for SS, all you need to do is say that Hecate searches up the videodata I indicated on one of my spoilered posts. Then I will give some more background. Yoshi could also pull it out, but I think he would need to go to another building and use a terminal for that.
As stated above. :smallwink:

Callos_DeTerran
2011-12-12, 02:55 PM
Rouga: Either waiting for Genoveva to bring it on, or for him to train Adam.

Go ahead and train Adam, some things still need to happen before Genoveva 'bring's it on'. That, and her attack is likely to be an interruption of daily activities anyway, so continue such activities! :smallwink:

Frozen_Feet
2011-12-12, 03:46 PM
Many of my characters are actually free (Lalita, Nasumi, Hannibal and Mihail are doing nothing in particular), but I don't have anything to work towards with them right now, so they're on a break.

I'm mostly waiting on Ep. 11 folk, especially horngeek and riccaru, to post so we can get to the big twists of that plotline. But horngeek (as far as I recall) is away for a bit and may or may not post with his iPhone.

The Kido Corps plotline is frozen in time untill a time when Nicklance decides to kick it back up again.

Kuroimaken
2011-12-12, 03:58 PM
Nasumi and Kazuma really should meet. For plawt.

tgva8889
2011-12-12, 04:22 PM
Besides Episode 13, is there anywhere else that I am needed relatively soon?

Kuroimaken
2011-12-12, 10:21 PM
Kazuma could always use some time to talk to his sister, and what luck, a building just got blown up... Since the 7th's specialty is construction, it stands to reason (for me) that they'd have a team to help rescue efforts on collapsed buildings.

Up to you, of course. :smallbiggrin:

tgva8889
2011-12-12, 11:30 PM
I'm still relatively busy, mostly just letting people know I didn't die. I'll be catching up on thread reading in a few days and then I'll come back officially. I'm in Finals Week right now, so trying not to fail any major exams is taking up much of my mental space.

AnimeKid
2011-12-12, 11:44 PM
Not sure what to have Jiro do at the moment. Waiting for the Samsara arc to begin to start truly playing Koga and Chase. Waiting on for something to happen in Hueco Mundo for Kyoki, though she is with Cecelia at the moment.

tgva8889
2011-12-13, 12:36 AM
Came up with some random questions:
1) Any male characters that would be interested in a possible love interest?
2) Anyone interested in helping me develop a larger plot? I've had a desire to do so and one of my character ideas has kind of exploded in my head to be much bigger than intended.

AnimeKid
2011-12-13, 01:13 AM
For the first one I don't mind. Just pick anyone of my male characters. As for the second one, I don't know if I can help you there. I do have a dnd group and I am DM about half the time, though my campaigns tend to be based off of pre-existing games, and anime.

Terry576
2011-12-13, 01:36 AM
Aura hasn't done much. I'll do some stuff with you tgva.

PM me the details.

Mina Kobold
2011-12-13, 02:54 AM
Came up with some random questions:
1) Any male characters that would be interested in a possible love interest?
2) Anyone interested in helping me develop a larger plot? I've had a desire to do so and one of my character ideas has kind of exploded in my head to be much bigger than intended.

I don't actually have any male characters, but I would be delighted to help develop a plot or just participating in one. :smallsmile:

Kuroimaken
2011-12-13, 07:54 AM
Love interests are always fun, just take your pick of one of my characters. And I'm always up for developing plawt. Feel free to PM the details or discuss them with me here.

horngeek
2011-12-13, 02:43 PM
Gah. Apart from the episodes (which I know about) is there anywhere my posting is required?

Sorry for the drop-off, life happened.

Wahrheit
2011-12-13, 02:43 PM
Annnnd I make my triumphant return. School, combined with other things, resulted in me needing a break from, well, just about everything. All is well in the world now, though, and I will be a great deal more active.

Cha-Cha is on her way to bug Mihail with her incredibly perky self.
Rex is going to do a few Mortal World-y things and head to the training camp.
Magatsu is waiting to meet with Ryuuichi to take the Captain Exam.
Shou and Bjartur aren't really up to much (indeed, Bjartur has yet to be introduced fully, I'll get around to it soon, I swear), but that's liable to change.

AnimeKid
2011-12-13, 03:33 PM
Hello Warhiet. I came to the forums after you leave of absence. I currently have one character in Soul Society, one in Hueco Mundo, and two in the Mortal World. I got into BleachITP from reading you guys Mortal World posts. I especially liked the battle against Doompine.

Kuroimaken
2011-12-13, 04:28 PM
Gah. Apart from the episodes (which I know about) is there anywhere my posting is required?

Sorry for the drop-off, life happened.

Just about everywhere, but getting the Mei-Ruwa fight going would be nice.

Nicklance
2011-12-13, 05:03 PM
Sorry, was busy with end of year sales targets and all that shebang. Thanksgiving does not exist in my country.

I'll get the Takeshi plot moving on this weekend.

By the way kayne, are you still going to send some PMs over to the samsara characters with your discussions on what the plot is going to be and how it will play out? I'm available for discussions when you are.

Vulkan
2011-12-14, 12:29 PM
Alright funeral stuff is over I`ll go post.

Kayne650
2011-12-15, 08:32 PM
I have sent out the PM's regarding the Samsara's hit list, and will be starting the Episode tomorrow, to make sure everyone has time to read the PM and make speech to me about any problem they may have with it. In the meantime, I will need to the kids to be in certain groups for this to work right. In the Episode, I will need five groups of kids, most of which make sense.

Kaito and Kina
Valeria and Sora
Nakahiro and Ken
Chase and Koga
Rex and Izumi

They can be where ever, as long as those kids are together. Thanks for the cooperation, and for your patience!

tgva8889
2011-12-15, 08:51 PM
I don't think Kaito and Kina are anywhere near each other. Also, I'm not sure nothingclever has been around recently.

Kayne650
2011-12-15, 08:59 PM
Well, keep in mind that this'll occur in a separate episode from the training, so they could be walking somewhere together for some reason after school, or something. I'll be starting a new episode for this.

tgva8889
2011-12-15, 09:03 PM
Oh, okay, my bad. :smallredface:

Also, I am back now! I'll be working on some bigger posts to get back into the thick of things. I have a major character that I'd like to post and then some organizing to do.

Terry576
2011-12-16, 05:23 AM
Considering Sora and Valeria spend a majority of their time together, that should be rather easy.

...As long as Sora apologizes in between his training.

Dorizzit
2011-12-16, 09:23 AM
I see no reason that Nakahiro wouldn't be with Ken. NC's absence is the only possible complication. Still, considering the fact that he

(Spoilers, if anyone not involved in the plot cares)

only has one opponent, and he's going to need rescuing,

he could conceivably have his fight by himself.

Kayne650
2011-12-16, 06:17 PM
Episode 14 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226014) is up! Post now, IF YOU DARE.

Also, Dorizzit, that is why I did that, though I haven't heard anything about NC quitting the boards. Perhaps taking a break has become something of a trend...

tgva8889
2011-12-16, 06:42 PM
nothingclever's last post on these boards was close to 2 months ago in the Mortal World thread. So it's possible that something has happened in his life that has forced him to take a break, rather than him just quitting the game or the boards.

strawberryman
2011-12-17, 03:37 AM
We're on Episode 15, I have just been lacking in motivation to post lately. I'm trying to work on that, and will try to have posts up in a few days.

Kuroimaken
2011-12-19, 06:23 PM
I can't shake the feeling there is somewhere I should be posting. I just KNOW someone's waiting on me.

Sorry, guys, posting from my PS3 can be a total pain. >.<;;

tgva8889
2011-12-19, 06:52 PM
First Draft:

Aina Indou
Name: (Surname Given Name) Indou Aina 犬童愛奈

Position/Allegiance: None (Mortal World)

Vital Stats:
Age: Unknown, appears 15
Height: 5'
Weight: 122 lb.
Reiatsu/Spiritual Color: Cream Color
Health: Healthy

Personality
Aina carries a general air of serenity with her wherever she goes. She is a pacifist and tries to avoid conflict whenever possible. She shows a great respect for all beings, even Hollows, and treats life as precious. Sometimes this shows in a sort of motherly care for others, which can sometimes seem strange to those who are her elder. No matter what, she will try to help those in need, though sometimes this desire to help can overwhelm her. Sadness is something that she hates and strives to eliminate whenever possible.


Appearance
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090402074650/dothack/images/thumb/f/fc/Auraface.jpg/396px-Auraface.jpg

Aina appears as a young girl with white hair flowing down behind her. No matter what, she seems to wear her hair down to about the middle of her back. The wind seems to make it move like seaweed in water as she passes, and it always seems to shine in the sunlight. Due to her rather small size and thin frame, sometimes her hair can envelop her a bit, though usually it just flows around her.Her white skin almost gives her an ethereal quality, though her personality makes her quite lively. Her blue eyes pierce with a deep understanding and she often likes to crinkle her nose.


History
Aina is a spiritual anomaly, formed from the passing of another spiritual anomaly. Normally, when a shinigami dies, their soul is sent back, returned to the cycle and reborn in a new mortal. However, some shinigami are not alone. Some shinigami are infected with another being, a hollow that rises in them. These Vizard do not die as a normal shinigami dies. Their souls divide in two, the hollow and the normal soul. This creates two beings instead of one, two beings returned to the cycle. One, however, is anomalous. Something must be made with it. Aina is one example of what that something can become.

She is, in essence, spiritual energy given a physical form. For what purpose she exists, it is unknown. But despite her appearance, she is not human. There is something different about her.

In reality, Aina was created a long time ago through experimentation on a dying soul. A criminal who was supposed to be sent to death was instead infected with an inner hollow. Close to the moment when he would lose himself forever, he was instead slain by a zanpakuto, though not before he managed to pass his curse on to a friend of Ai Masachika. His soul, so nearly fused, was supposed to be ripped apart by the reincarnation process, allowed to create a new being. However, his inner hollow instead held on to the man’s soul. It feared what would happen were they to divide, and put all of its power into holding on tightly. In doing so, somehow it created a new kind of being. This being, both hollow and human in spirit yet somehow neither, was an entirely new form of life.

Upon her “birth,” Aina knew nothing. She was a shapeless mass of spiritual energy, unable to influence either world. Curious and young, she created for herself a physical form that she could use to gain more understanding of the world. This form, a young girl, was then inhabited and placed in the Phoenix Town, at the place closest to the spirits: the Houheiden Shrine. Influenced by its supernatural qualities at her appearance, however, her entire personality was shaped by the 犯幅戒絶対酷評 (see Sayaka’s character sheet). She became a being dedicated to peace.


Abilities:
Reiatsu Bonding: Aina has the ability to form special spiritual connections between her and others that allow them to share their energies. Through use of these bonds, Aina can grant more strength to her allies or weaken her enemies, depending on who she shares bonds with. While Aina can force the bonds upon those with much weaker reiatsu, almost any target that actually has any spiritual power at all must form a bond willingly. To do this, both Aina and the subject of the bond must connect their reiatsu together and connect each other. Once done, both Aina and the subject receive benefits:
Slightly increased reiatsu: Both Aina and her subject can draw upon a small amount of the other’s reiatsu, generally increasing either individual’s spiritual power slightly. The benefit usually is not enough to make them that much stronger, but it does allow them to last longer in battle.
Innate sense: Either one can easily detect the other’s location, even through effects that would normally block such detection (like sekiseki rock or Kyokko). They are also always aware of the other’s health status. They also share a small amount of their pain.
Personal warmth: Because of the deep connection forged between Aina and her subject, both feel a constant feeling of having another close to them. The feeling is entirely emotional and has no real effects, though it is powerful, and both Aina and the subject are clearly aware of who is responsible for it. Both parties will always feel positive regard towards each other so long as they are bonded.

In addition, Aina gains access to a few abilities through use of her bonds. All of these abilities are more powerful the stronger Aina’s emotional connection with the target.
Empathy: Aina can easily detect the emotions of those she is bonded with. She may also project her emotions onto those bonded with her, allowing them to feel her emotions in varying levels of strength. This ability is more effective the greater her bond is with the target.
Reiatsu Barrier: Aina can manipulate the shape of a person’s reiatsu if she is nearby, enabling her to form barriers. The strength of such a defense depends on the person’s reiatsu. Usually, they are fairly weak and only useful for minor blocking. They can, however, reduce the damage a target receives and only through use of Aina’s own effort.
Reiatsu Sealing: Aina can seal a person’s reiatsu within their own body, preventing them from accessing it. This effectively blocks a person’s powers from working at all, only allowing them to see spiritual entities for the duration. The target of this ability is always aware of it occurring. Depending on the amount of time spent and the person in question, Aina can seal power for differing amounts of time. The more reiatsu a person has, the longer power can be sealed, but the more difficult it is to do so. Because the ability requires long concentration, it is generally ineffective during combat.

Bonds work best when Aina is equal in reiatsu to those she shares with and are generally more effective the closer the subject is to Aina. Each time she forms a bond, she gains a small amount of reiatsu from the person she bonds with, increasing her own pool of energy. Aina cannot connect two bonded people with each other.

Please critique!

KnightDisciple
2011-12-20, 11:38 AM
Rather than try to figure this out, as things of late have left me a bit off-track...

Where is one of my characters required to respond?

EDIT: Incidentally, it has been over 2 weeks since something happened in Hueco Mundo. This pace is ridiculous. :smallannoyed:

Seriously folks, at this rate I'm going to be tempted to say we just declare an ultimate winner and be done with it so we can move on.

Draken
2011-12-20, 01:21 PM
I do believe people are just drifting off the forums for varied reasons related to the end of the year.

Incidentally, I am going to travel tomorrow night and will probably have more limited internet access until next year (january 3, to be precise).

Kuroimaken
2011-12-20, 06:51 PM
Rather than try to figure this out, as things of late have left me a bit off-track...

Where is one of my characters required to respond?

EDIT: Incidentally, it has been over 2 weeks since something happened in Hueco Mundo. This pace is ridiculous. :smallannoyed:

Seriously folks, at this rate I'm going to be tempted to say we just declare an ultimate winner and be done with it so we can move on.

I believe you have a point pace-wise in Hueco Mundo. I could include Serazel in a time bubble off to ask Vicente advice on how to get stronger. It'd be character development, I believe.

Oh, and remind me if I forgot to post on Kazuma's training thread or on the fight scene between Byakusai and Cackling Oni.

Vulkan
2011-12-23, 10:08 AM
Should I change my post? I think I missinterupted Allan's level of lazy bad ass.

Dorizzit
2011-12-23, 02:02 PM
Nah, you're fine.

Frozen_Feet
2011-12-23, 03:15 PM
I do believe people are just drifting off the forums for varied reasons related to the end of the year.

Yay, I know I've been barely reading any of the threads due to Christmass hurries... not that I have too much to post anyway, since most of my characters are off-screen, Mihail is waiting for Wahrheit and Elder is waiting on horngeek and riccaru to make their posts. :smallsmile:

maximus25
2011-12-23, 04:28 PM
I'm still here, just waiting.

Vulkan
2011-12-23, 07:48 PM
So if I'm a copy of Allan weapon and all does that mean that any of the tropes of awaking power would apply to me?

Dorizzit
2011-12-23, 08:44 PM
I'm not sure what you're asking.

KnightDisciple
2011-12-24, 09:16 AM
Out of town until Monday. Merry Christmas.

Vulkan
2011-12-24, 10:47 AM
I'm not sure what you're asking.


Would the extendo thing work for Mimus?

Dorizzit
2011-12-24, 10:54 AM
In theory, yes. However, since Allan doesn't know about that feature yet and has no idea how to activate it, Mimus probably wouldn't either.

Vulkan
2011-12-24, 04:00 PM
Alright now how to not die.

Kuroimaken
2011-12-24, 04:31 PM
Out of town until Monday. Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas, KD!

tgva8889
2011-12-25, 04:33 PM
I hope you all have a great holiday time fun day!

HirokatsuGoto
2011-12-25, 05:21 PM
happy holidays all

Kuroimaken
2011-12-25, 06:52 PM
On the third day of Christmas, my true love gave to me

Five Captains Bankai'ing
Four Shikais a-bombin'
Three drunken 3rd seats
Two Matsumotos bouncing
And a Menos that looked like a tree...

maximus25
2011-12-26, 12:11 AM
Hehe that songs awesome.

Merry christmas everypony.

Mina Kobold
2011-12-26, 06:18 AM
Happy holidays, solstice celebrations, Hollow massacring, collateral damaging and Yuletide for all! :smallsmile:

On a related note, would it be possible to have Misaki enter the school next IC day? :smallsmile:

AnimeKid
2011-12-31, 01:43 AM
How come things seemed to have crawled to a near stop?

No one is posting in episode 14, Hueco Mundo seems to have stopped along with the Mortal World. Also the Soul Society is really slowing down.

Terry576
2011-12-31, 01:50 AM
It is vacation time.

Mina Kobold
2011-12-31, 07:11 AM
How come things seemed to have crawled to a near stop?

No one is posting in episode 14, Hueco Mundo seems to have stopped along with the Mortal World. Also the Soul Society is really slowing down.

It is the hibernation season, I presume. Roleplayers need time to recharge for next year's Bankai-revelations, Hollow invasions and schooltime antics! :3

That or people have busy vacations, but that would just be silly! :smalltongue:

Personally, I want to post, but I am not sure where I could do so without intruding. Which is probably just me being paranoid. >_>

Kuroimaken
2011-12-31, 09:03 AM
I still check the boards regularly just in case someone snuck in a post while bored and waiting for New Year's Eve. But yeah, for the most part activity is pretty much down across the boards.

Speaking of which, hope you guys have an awesome 2012.

Dorizzit
2011-12-31, 11:59 AM
I imagine activity will pick up again after the holiday season has passed. Also, the inactivity is self propagating; I'm sure there are a number of people (myself included) who are lurking due to a lack of anything to do with their character(s).


Speaking of which, hope you guys have an awesome 2012.

Also this.

maximus25
2011-12-31, 02:14 PM
Yep. I'm here, just lurking hoping for some posts. But, with 2 characters occupied, and one who can't really do anything, I'm pretty limited.

Mina Kobold
2011-12-31, 03:41 PM
Maybe there could be a small flash-back or non-canon story? That way there could be something to do without those out having fun getting behind. :smallsmile:


And I do hope you all have a great new year as well. You are all amazing. :smallsmile:

Kuroimaken
2012-01-01, 07:11 PM
Hmmm, a Gaiden episode sounds good.

Soushi HAS been extremely quiet lately...

tgva8889
2012-01-01, 07:34 PM
I think I have to post in the Episode? I'm not sure right now. Besides that I don't really have anything to do.

HirokatsuGoto
2012-01-01, 10:43 PM
Happy New Years

Frozen_Feet
2012-01-02, 01:08 PM
Still waiting for horngeek, riccaru and Wahrheit to make their respective posts.

KnightDisciple
2012-01-04, 09:57 PM
I'm here.

Just:

A.)Busy with life, especially now that work has cranked up and I'm pulling 50hour weeks.
B.)Not sure what I can do, since I'm waiting on people most everywhere.
C.)Not sure what to write in the places I can go...

tgva8889
2012-01-04, 10:07 PM
KD, is Masaru busy? We can at least do something with our characters if he's not.

Kuroimaken
2012-01-05, 07:10 AM
Am I the only one that noticed we seem to have TWO episode 14's?

EDIT: Also, KD, finally responded on the Mortal World. Sorry, I completely forgot about it. Waiting for your response on Kazuma's Gaiden.

Here's to hoping work slows down for you soon, or at least that you manage to survive it ok. :smallsmile:

CMOTDibbler
2012-01-06, 01:56 PM
Just curious; Since we seem to be on hiatus, is there a time when people are actually planning of coming back?

Kuroimaken
2012-01-06, 03:32 PM
I ain't on hiatus, but yeah, we can't really move the plots forward for now. KD also seems to be around, albeit in diminished capacity, as per his own post.

It might be interesting to do a quick headcount of who's paying attention right now and/or interested in playing something on the side just to keep the game alive and give something for those of us who don't stop to do. :smallbiggrin:

HirokatsuGoto
2012-01-06, 04:04 PM
I check in daily. Not sure what kind of side plot you want to get going, but i might be in on it.

I havent done anything much with my 4th seat in the 1st or my human photographer or my ex-Fraccion

maximus25
2012-01-06, 04:14 PM
I'm prepared for anything.

Kind of waiting on others, but I check daily.

Edge
2012-01-06, 04:42 PM
I am still here, but I've been preoccupied with a work placement for the past few weeks, as well as keeping up a job search. That work placement finishes on Monday, so I'll have more time to put into the RP after that.

Kuroimaken
2012-01-06, 06:43 PM
Here's to hoping for a successful job hunt, Edge.

Dorizzit
2012-01-06, 08:49 PM
I'm still here.

tgva8889
2012-01-06, 10:10 PM
Is there something I should be doing? Most of my characters are in the pseudo-limbo of not having anything to do.

Draken
2012-01-07, 12:55 AM
I'm here as well.

AnimeKid
2012-01-07, 06:44 AM
The rocken Kid is ready to go.

Kuroimaken
2012-01-07, 06:51 AM
...I guess we're not on as much of a hiatus as we thought. :smalltongue:

Anybody got any news from nothingclever?

Mina Kobold
2012-01-07, 01:07 PM
I'm here as well! Playing something on the side sounds pretty fun as well. :smallsmile:

No news, though. :3

Vulkan
2012-01-07, 10:30 PM
^_^ I'm just waiting for a reply in my thread.

:D oh can anyone tell me if I got anything wrong in my post?

tgva8889
2012-01-07, 10:53 PM
Kuroi, want to have Reikiku and Kazuma get together?

Kuroimaken
2012-01-08, 01:09 AM
I was hoping you'd ask!

So what are we getting these two to do? :smalltongue:

tgva8889
2012-01-08, 01:13 AM
I dunno, I dunno. But we should figure it out. Um, Reikiku likes to play games, what kind of game would Kazuma play with her?

Kuroimaken
2012-01-08, 10:08 AM
Well, Kazuma is probably big on board games, particularly go and shogi, but those are a bit hard to RP and Reikiku would likely find them boring anyway (she strikes me as a very lively kind of gal). If anything, I think the two of them would probably play at something pretty active, but I can't seem to come up with anything like that requiring only two players. Do you have any suggestions?

Edge
2012-01-08, 02:39 PM
Random idea: shunpo football (i.e. soccer, for all you non-European types). One player per team, has to periodically pass to themselves, using shunpo to arrive at the ball's destination before it does.

Kuroimaken
2012-01-08, 02:46 PM
That sounds brilliant.

tgva8889
2012-01-08, 03:16 PM
I mean, she plays Chess with Masaru. She likes games in general. :smallbiggrin: Though yes, active games are quite likely more her style.

Shunpo football sounds like the sort of thing they'd play. Across Sereitei.

Edge
2012-01-08, 03:19 PM
I mean, she plays Chess with Masaru. She likes games in general. :smallbiggrin: Though yes, active games are quite likely more her style.

Shunpo football sounds like the sort of thing they'd play. Across Sereitei.

Well, town vs. town is how the real-world sport was originally played.

Seireitei Saints vs. Rukongai Raiders, anyone?

tgva8889
2012-01-08, 03:33 PM
No, I mean the two of them would play. And the field would be the size of Sereitei.

Edge
2012-01-08, 03:46 PM
No, I mean the two of them would play. And the field would be the size of Sereitei.

I did actually take that from your post, but I was suggesting an alternative setup for the game. :smalltongue:

Kuroimaken
2012-01-08, 03:50 PM
No, I mean the two of them would play. And the field would be the size of Sereitei.

This. Must so happen. It sounds just like the kind of thing Kazuma would do when egged on by Reikiku. :smalltongue:

You wanna post first, or should I?

tgva8889
2012-01-08, 04:05 PM
I might not be able to do it today. Up to you.