Gotterdammerung
2011-11-16, 10:31 PM
So I stumbled upon an interesting opportunity for exponential power growth with this class. http://kahdnd.pbworks.com/w/page/5588920/Illithid%20Savant
The 3rd lvl ability
Acquire Class Feature (Ex):
At 3rd level, an illithid savant permanently gains one class feature of a consumed brain’s owner, as a character of that creature’s level in that class. If the former character was a spellcaster, the illithid savant is able to cast one spell of each level available to the character (if the victim was a wizard, the mind flayer must still consult a spellbook or learn from scrolls), as well as any bonus spells provideded by the illithid savant’s ability scores. If the illithid savant already has spellcasting levels, these spells are in addition to those granted by the illithid savant’s spellcasting class levels. At 7th level and again at 10th level, the illithid savant can gain another class feature from a consumed brain.
This one ability lets you steal 3 class features from any brain you have eaten. The strength of the ability is equal to the strength they had at the time you ate their brain.
Soooo, I propose devising a PLAN to train up an enclave of illithid savant brethren, and then find a way to betray them and eat a BUNCH of mindflayer/ illithid savant10 brains.
For all 3 of your Acquire class feature choices, you would then choose to steal "Acquire class feature" from 3 of the consumed brains. This would give you 9 more uses of Acquire class feature. Then steal "acquire class feature" from 9 different brains. You now have 27 uses of Acquire class feature.
Continue this exponential growth until you run out of brains to leech the ability from. And then use some of the class features to steal different spell casting (do it multiple times to increase castings per day), some of them to steal powerful SA's and SQ's from random creatures via "Acquire Special Attack or Special Quality" pulled from your illithid enclave brains (you get 2 of them per use of "Acquire class feature"!!!), some of them to shop for massive skill ranks via "Acquire skill" (you get 4 skills per use of "Acquire class feature"), and then use the rest for extra feats robbed from your brain pool via "acquire feat" (4 feats per use of "Acquire class feature).
So i guess the point of this thread is,
#1 help me work out the details of starting a minflayer Illithid Savant Enclave designed for training Illithid's in the ways of the Savant.
#2 Help me work out a logistically sound way to finally betray them and come out victorious. All your brains are belong to me!
#3 Rationalize how many lvl 10 illithid savant brains we can realistically set up for consumption.
Things this thread is not about
#1 What exactly to spend your tons of extra feats, free sor/wiz/bard/cleric full casting all of the above, free Special quality, free special attacks, free skills, ect on.
It's pretty obvious you would just get all the spellcasting... ALL OF IT. And then steal it again for MORE spells per day.
Cherry pick the best class features in the game.
Then cherry pick the best Special attacks
and the best special qualities.
Max out all relevant skill points after a light snack on some epic factotums.
and then dump the rest of the uses into 4 feats a pop. (and then Dark Chaos Shuffle them into whatever you really wanted.)
Optimizing AFTER this combo has worked is definitely NOT the hard part.
Hell eat a Sarrukh's brain, steal manipulate form. Eat a wizards brain, steal his ability to call a familiar, call a lizard. Get a yuanti graft instantly qualifying yourself as a "scaly-kind". See where this is going? Yeh, totally not the hard part.
The 3rd lvl ability
Acquire Class Feature (Ex):
At 3rd level, an illithid savant permanently gains one class feature of a consumed brain’s owner, as a character of that creature’s level in that class. If the former character was a spellcaster, the illithid savant is able to cast one spell of each level available to the character (if the victim was a wizard, the mind flayer must still consult a spellbook or learn from scrolls), as well as any bonus spells provideded by the illithid savant’s ability scores. If the illithid savant already has spellcasting levels, these spells are in addition to those granted by the illithid savant’s spellcasting class levels. At 7th level and again at 10th level, the illithid savant can gain another class feature from a consumed brain.
This one ability lets you steal 3 class features from any brain you have eaten. The strength of the ability is equal to the strength they had at the time you ate their brain.
Soooo, I propose devising a PLAN to train up an enclave of illithid savant brethren, and then find a way to betray them and eat a BUNCH of mindflayer/ illithid savant10 brains.
For all 3 of your Acquire class feature choices, you would then choose to steal "Acquire class feature" from 3 of the consumed brains. This would give you 9 more uses of Acquire class feature. Then steal "acquire class feature" from 9 different brains. You now have 27 uses of Acquire class feature.
Continue this exponential growth until you run out of brains to leech the ability from. And then use some of the class features to steal different spell casting (do it multiple times to increase castings per day), some of them to steal powerful SA's and SQ's from random creatures via "Acquire Special Attack or Special Quality" pulled from your illithid enclave brains (you get 2 of them per use of "Acquire class feature"!!!), some of them to shop for massive skill ranks via "Acquire skill" (you get 4 skills per use of "Acquire class feature"), and then use the rest for extra feats robbed from your brain pool via "acquire feat" (4 feats per use of "Acquire class feature).
So i guess the point of this thread is,
#1 help me work out the details of starting a minflayer Illithid Savant Enclave designed for training Illithid's in the ways of the Savant.
#2 Help me work out a logistically sound way to finally betray them and come out victorious. All your brains are belong to me!
#3 Rationalize how many lvl 10 illithid savant brains we can realistically set up for consumption.
Things this thread is not about
#1 What exactly to spend your tons of extra feats, free sor/wiz/bard/cleric full casting all of the above, free Special quality, free special attacks, free skills, ect on.
It's pretty obvious you would just get all the spellcasting... ALL OF IT. And then steal it again for MORE spells per day.
Cherry pick the best class features in the game.
Then cherry pick the best Special attacks
and the best special qualities.
Max out all relevant skill points after a light snack on some epic factotums.
and then dump the rest of the uses into 4 feats a pop. (and then Dark Chaos Shuffle them into whatever you really wanted.)
Optimizing AFTER this combo has worked is definitely NOT the hard part.
Hell eat a Sarrukh's brain, steal manipulate form. Eat a wizards brain, steal his ability to call a familiar, call a lizard. Get a yuanti graft instantly qualifying yourself as a "scaly-kind". See where this is going? Yeh, totally not the hard part.