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RndmNumGen
2011-12-02, 04:51 PM
I was looking at some of Pathfinder's Sorcerer Archtypes and noticed that there were a few that changed their casting stat. I remembered that the Alchemist had a similar Archtype which changed their primary stat as well. I figured it would be interesting to compile a list of these alternate ability scores, similar to the 'X stat to Y' thread, but exclusively for Pathfinder and dealing more with replacements than getting bonuses. Here is what I know of so far:

Sorcerer(Sage) (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/archetypes/paizo---sorcerer-archetypes/wildblooded/sage): INT for Casting
Sorcerer(Empyrean) (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/archetypes/paizo---sorcerer-archetypes/wildblooded/empyreal): WIS for Casting
Alchemist(Herbalist) (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/alchemist/archetypes/3rd-party-publishers/paizo-fans-united---alchemist-archetypes/herbalist): WIS for Extracts [3rd Party]
Dervish Dance Feat (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/dervish-dance-combat): DEX for Attack & Damage w/ Scimitars

Anyone know of anything else?

grarrrg
2011-12-02, 09:52 PM
Anyone know of anything else?
If we are just doing "Instead of..."

Oracle: Lore Mystery: Sidestep Revelation: Cha-to-AC and Cha-to-Ref-Saves.
Oracle: Nature Mystery: Nature's Whispers Revelation: Cha-to-AC and Cha-to-CMD

Agent of the Grave (PrC): Cha-to-HP

Monk: Zen Archer Archetype: Wis-to-Hit (bow attacks)

Guided Weapon Enchantment: Wis-to-Hit and Wis-to-Damage

jaybird
2011-12-03, 12:29 AM
There's Mysterious Stranger to get CHA to gun damage instead of DEX.

Bhaakon
2011-12-03, 12:38 AM
The Student of War prc gets Int to AC in place of Dex at second level.

Stone Heart
2011-12-03, 03:51 AM
This is a very handy list, I would like to see more.

Also can't the Lore Oracle get CHA to knowledhe checks? Or am I thinking about something else? AFB right now.

grarrrg
2011-12-03, 06:24 PM
Should also add good ole Weapon Finesse, it's easily overlooked given how commonly used it is.


This is a very handy list, I would like to see more.

Also can't the Lore Oracle get CHA to knowledhe checks? Or am I thinking about something else? AFB right now.

Lore Mystery: Lore Keeper, may us Cha instead of Int on Knowledge checks.


There's Mysterious Stranger to get CHA to gun damage instead of DEX.

I'm not sure if that would count. As most of the time NOBODY gets Dex to damage. The only time you can get Dex-to-gun damage is from Gunslinger anyway.