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Dyroth
2011-12-05, 08:41 PM
Ok, so I am looking to add the Pounce ability from Claws of the Leopard to my monk's Amulet of Natural Attacks, but can't quite get it complete broken down to get that price. Here is what I have so far:

Total: 38,305GP
MW Spiked Gauntlet: 305GP
+2 Bonus: 8,000GP
+10 Climb: 10,000GP
Low Light: ?
Pounce: ?

So basically, what I need is the cost of adding those last to pieces so I can complete the puzzle. Any help is appreciated, and if I am wrong in my math anywhere let me know.

Khantin
2011-12-05, 09:35 PM
You might be able to isolate the cost of low light vision from other items, and then with that value figure out how much the pounce is by itself.

Drelua
2011-12-05, 10:38 PM
According to Catti-Brie's stats here (http://www.candlekeep.com/library/articles/drizzt-35.htm), her circlet that grants low-light vision costs 1800 gold.

38,305 - 305 - 10,000 - 8,000 - 1800 = 18,200, the price to add pounce to a weapon, I guess.

Dyroth
2011-12-06, 08:18 AM
Thanks all, I actually found the spell Low Light Vision in Complete Arcane finally. Since it is a 1st lever Wiz/Sorc spell, I will take 2000GP off to add it to the Gauntlets. This makes the final price on Pounce as 18000GP. Well worth it in my opinion.

Pilo
2011-12-06, 08:47 AM
According to that : http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/creatingMagicItems.htm#addingNewAbilities , you are wrong.

As the vision is link to eyes slot, his price would be 3000gp. And as this ability is very different from the original one, it raises to 4000gp.

The same for the climbing part: 15000 gp.

27305 gp + pounce.

Regarding of the following property : speed ( http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/magicWeapons.htm#speed) which cost a +3 i assume pounce will be quite the same cost.

So your item would cost 305 masterwork gauntlets + 50000gp (+2 + pounce) + 15000 gp (+10 climbing) +4000 (Low-light vision) = 69305 gp.

Dyroth
2011-12-06, 09:07 AM
Pilo,

We were starting with a finished magic item, and trying to break it down to it's component costs, not the other way around. Claws of the Leopard can be found in Complete Adventurer with a cost of 38,305GP. Was trying to figure out the cost for the Pounce ability by trying to strip away the +2, +10 to climb, and Low Light Vision.


According to that : http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/creatingMagicItems.htm#addingNewAbilities , you are wrong.

As the vision is link to eyes slot, his price would be 3000gp. And as this ability is very different from the original one, it raises to 4000gp.

The same for the climbing part: 15000 gp.

27305 gp + pounce.

Regarding of the following property : speed ( http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/magicWeapons.htm#speed) which cost a +3 i assume pounce will be quite the same cost.

So your item would cost 305 masterwork gauntlets + 50000gp (+2 + pounce) + 15000 gp (+10 climbing) +4000 (Low-light vision) = 69305 gp.

skycycle blues
2011-12-06, 09:09 AM
According to that : http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/creatingMagicItems.htm#addingNewAbilities , you are wrong.

As the vision is link to eyes slot, his price would be 3000gp. And as this ability is very different from the original one, it raises to 4000gp.

The same for the climbing part: 15000 gp.

27305 gp + pounce.

Regarding of the following property : speed ( http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/magicWeapons.htm#speed) which cost a +3 i assume pounce will be quite the same cost.

So your item would cost 305 masterwork gauntlets + 50000gp (+2 + pounce) + 15000 gp (+10 climbing) +4000 (Low-light vision) = 69305 gp.

Except that he's trying to find the price to add Pounce to an item based on a printed item that grants it. So if your reasoning for the added climb and low light vision costs are correct, that would suggest that Pounce would actually cost 11,000 to add to an item.

Person_Man
2011-12-06, 09:25 AM
Note that Claws of the Leopard count as spiked gauntlets, and only allow you to Pounce with those specific weapons. Spiked Gauntlets are not special Monk weapons, and thus can't be used with Flurry of Blows, or two handed Power Attack. So it's not really a good indicator of a generic magic item which grants Pounce.

You may wish to look at the Pounce and Free Movement (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103358) thread. I think that the closest approximation that you might be looking for would be a wand of Lion's Charge (Druid 3/Ranger 2 spell, Spell Compendium), which costs 4,500 gp, but has limited charges and requires a Swift Action to activate.

However, an even more efficient way to get full attacks every round would be to incorporate a higher Tier class or prestige class into your build. Virtually all Tier 3 or higher builds (along with the Barbarian, Ranger, and Paladin) have easy access to Pounce and/or free movement. For a Monk, I would suggest adding Psychic Warrior, which has a number of different synergies.

Pilo
2011-12-06, 09:55 AM
I apologize. I am not a native English speaker and I did not understand that the item already exists.

Anyway, as skycycle blues says, your property will cost 11000 gp.

Which will make 22000 gp if you add it to your necklace [not the right body slot (+50%) to enhance combat or destructive power and new property (+50%)].

Yorae
2011-12-06, 11:35 AM
I'd just use Wondrous Item creation rules for a constant item of Lion's Pounce, since that's basically what it is.

Spell level x caster level x 2000gp

3 * 5 * 2000 = 30,000gp.

If you think it's an uncustomary space, multiply by 1.5 for 45,000gp.