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danzibr
2011-12-06, 04:44 PM
Just gotta say, TTGL is totally in my top 5 favorite anime now. I finished the main series and am about to watch the first movie. To be honest, I didn't like it too much at the beginning (I didn't DISlike it, just wasn't the biggest fan), but oh it got better and better. Truly great IMO.

Venom3053000
2011-12-06, 04:53 PM
welcome to the cult of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann we're send your rodes in the mail and we meet every friday :smallbiggrin:

Mando Knight
2011-12-06, 05:04 PM
The two movies are mostly condensed versions of the show... though the second ramps up the final battle even more.

Dr.Epic
2011-12-06, 05:04 PM
It's my #3.

Samurai Champloo, you're my number 1. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0ag9Sll6RI)

danzibr
2011-12-06, 05:36 PM
The two movies are mostly condensed versions of the show... though the second ramps up the final battle even more.
I got like 15 minutes into the first one and had to refresh.

And oooh, that sounds wild. I look forward to it. The opening of movie 1 was really cool.

tensai_oni
2011-12-06, 05:48 PM
Yes, this is a great series and I am not surprised you like it a lot. Just don't consider it to be incredibly original, because then I would have to send you in Getter Robo's direction. Getter Robo Go the manga (not anime) and Getter Robo Armageddon OVA to be precise. This is what it homages most heavily.

Nerd-o-rama
2011-12-06, 05:50 PM
Gainax is about as original as George Lucas. What they excel at is combining the cool parts of half a dozen other things into an awesome GATTAI!!! synthesis.

Dr.Epic
2011-12-06, 05:54 PM
I tried watching the first film twice but could never commit myself to it because it just seemed like a repackaging of the series except abridge. I can watch the regular episodes and have it not feel like it's rushed.

Mando Knight
2011-12-06, 05:59 PM
And oooh, that sounds wild. I look forward to it. The opening of movie 1 was really cool.

The final battle kicks 11 up to 11.

MammonAzrael
2011-12-06, 06:39 PM
The final battle kicks 11 up to 11.

So...would that be 12? Or 22? Or 121?

Lord Raziere
2011-12-06, 06:43 PM
More like 1111 to my way of thinking.

Loki_42
2011-12-06, 06:50 PM
Hey all, I just started watching this series my self, coming from a Gainax kick in the form of FLCL. I have to say, I'm loving it so far, I'm about up to episode 11, and it's now another onto my list of shows this forum inspired me to watch.

Tengu_temp
2011-12-06, 06:59 PM
Gurren Lagann is my favorite super robot show. Is it in my top 5 anime ever? Dunno, probably. Like all good things it has an overeager fandom that can be very annoying at times, though - make sure not to become one of those people.

danzibr
2011-12-06, 07:13 PM
Whoops double post (a very delayed one at that). Guess I'll say something else.

Surprisingly, I only really started liking the anime at episode 21 or 22 IIRC, but those last few episodes were all it took to shoot to the top of my list.

Dr.Epic
2011-12-06, 11:13 PM
Honestly, this anime had me in the first few episode. Even when it was just badass dudes living under ground, it was still awesome!

dgnslyr
2011-12-07, 12:37 AM
TTGL is definitely in my Top 1 anime list. Whenever I read/watch any sci-fi story, I think about how a TTGL/whatever crossover would pan out. Also, it's made me a sucker for drills of any story, and if I knew people who played Yu Gi Oh, I'd shout out drill-related catchphrases whenever I use my (hopelessly outdated) Armed Dragon deck. so I don't watch much anime but don't judge me

Kato
2011-12-07, 10:13 AM
TTGL is... I don't know. I'm bad with rankings. But it might even be my #1 anime. It's definitely up there. I loved it pretty much from the beginning and it's something I can watch over and over and over again...

TThe movies are okay, the second better than the first in some parts, worse in others but it's really mostly the problem with the pacing. The finale of the second battle is one of the most epic things ever, anyway :smallbiggrin:

HFool
2011-12-07, 11:13 AM
What are your other top four?

Dusk Eclipse
2011-12-07, 11:17 AM
TTGL is definitely in my Top 1 anime list. Whenever I read/watch any sci-fi story, I think about how a TTGL/whatever crossover would pan out. Also, it's made me a sucker for drills of any story, and if I knew people who played Yu Gi Oh, I'd shout out drill-related catchphrases whenever I use my (hopelessly outdated) Armed Dragon deck. so I don't watch much anime but don't judge me

cough...cough

http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/5/5d/DrillWarriorDP10-EN-R-1E.png

:smalltongue:

Tengu_temp
2011-12-07, 11:28 AM
Important note: since for many people TTGL is Babby's First Mecha Anime, if you think something is a Gurren Lagann reference then make sure it's a Gurren Lagann reference before calling it as such, as opposed to a Getter-2 reference or (rarer) Gao Gai Gar reference. Gurren Lagann is not the first robot with drills, nor the most famous.

Dusk Eclipse
2011-12-07, 11:33 AM
Important note: since for many people TTGL is Babby's First Mecha Anime, if you think something is a Gurren Lagann reference then make sure it's a Gurren Lagann reference before calling it as such, as opposed to a Getter-2 reference or (rarer) Gao Gai Gar reference. Gurren Lagann is not the first robot with drills, nor the most famous.

The trivia page from the Yu-gi-oh wikia for drill warrior states:


This card and "Drill Synchron" seem to be based on the Gurren-Lagann of the anime series Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann.
In addition, the card also bears a slight resemblance to the Getter Robo from the anime and manga of the same name.
Since this was the winner of a drawing contest, it is likely that the submitter was a fan of either of those series.
source (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Trivia:Drill_Warrior)

So it might be either...still I prefer to think it was based on TTGL and it was mostly tongue in cheek to give people a real reason to use TTGL references in a yu-gi-oh game.

Nerd-o-rama
2011-12-07, 11:35 AM
No, the Yu-gi-oh card is clearly a TTGL reference. I mean, look at the design of the monster. That ain't Getter-2.

Well, maybe if the head was about 3 times taller and it wasn't red.

Tengu_temp
2011-12-07, 01:01 PM
The trivia page from the Yu-gi-oh wikia for drill warrior states:
source (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Trivia:Drill_Warrior)

So it might be either...still I prefer to think it was based on TTGL and it was mostly tongue in cheek to give people a real reason to use TTGL references in a yu-gi-oh game.

No no, I can believe that this one was a reference to TTGL. It just reminded me of people saying that things like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emq0Xf6zVDw) are TTGL references.

Suichimo
2011-12-07, 01:45 PM
Hey all, I just started watching this series my self, coming from a Gainax kick in the form of FLCL. I have to say, I'm loving it so far, I'm about up to episode 11, and it's now another onto my list of shows this forum inspired me to watch.

Episode 11 is where the series really picked up for me. Kamina didn't leave that large of an impression on me and we finally get the real main character. Though Kittan is still the greatest.

Soras Teva Gee
2011-12-07, 03:12 PM
I got like 15 minutes into the first one and had to refresh.

And oooh, that sounds wild. I look forward to it. The opening of movie 1 was really cool.

The opening of the first movie is mostly one of the Parallel Works a series of what can only be termed official original AMVs. Most of them feature alternate reality versions of the cast, there's a fantasy AMV to Row Row Fight the Power for example, but as many are artsy weird fuel. Well worth tracking down.

Prime32
2011-12-07, 04:36 PM
No no, I can believe that this one was a reference to TTGL. It just reminded me of people saying that things like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emq0Xf6zVDw) are TTGL references.On that note:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080530011824/yugioh/images/thumb/e/e5/SuperVehicroid-StealthUnionGLAS-EN-ScR-1E.png/329px-SuperVehicroid-StealthUnionGLAS-EN-ScR-1E.png
In the anime when it uses its effect to absorb something it looks like this (http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071209025929/yugioh/images/5/57/SuperVehicroid-RexUnion-JP-Anime-GX-NC.png).

For those in this thread who don't understand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wODKm9cI9Lw

Yeah, TTGL is basically the mean average of Getter Robo and GaoGaiGar (with a little FLCL thrown in).
For instance, in GaoGaiGar the green courage-energy is fully a good thing, in Getter Robo its an Eldritch Abomination that can only be controlled by "superior pilots... or the insane!", and in TTGL it's somewhere in between.

Soras Teva Gee
2011-12-07, 04:41 PM
No no, I can believe that this one was a reference to TTGL. It just reminded me of people saying that things like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emq0Xf6zVDw) are TTGL references.

People that say that clearly missed that they aired roughly concurrent to one another. Lucky Star was always pretty up on anime but there are limits to what's plausible with animation lead time.

Prime32
2011-12-07, 04:59 PM
Something more recent that's often mistaken for a TTGL reference: Shoutmon X3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtTSxIZNA2M).

Let's see, we have a hot-blooded red guy who fights with an axe-like weapon, a calm ex-villain who's fast and fights with drills, and a friendly fat guy who fights with missiles. They combine into a robot. Yup, totally TTGL (www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhjds5BtY68). :smallwink:

And the chestplate boomerang thing was invented by Great Mazinger (www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDjkXkMTg-c).

Nerd-o-rama
2011-12-07, 05:20 PM
Something more recent that's often mistaken for a TTGL reference: Shoutmon X3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtTSxIZNA2M).

Let's see, we have a hot-blooded red guy who fights with an axe-like weapon, a calm ex-villain who's fast and fights with drills, and a friendly fat guy who fights with missiles. They combine into a robot. Yup, totally TTGL (www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhjds5BtY68). :smallwink:

I was wondering why in the hell /m/ had Digimon threads.

Prime32
2011-12-07, 06:55 PM
I was wondering why in the hell /m/ had Digimon threads.Also, the main 'mon shares a voice with the pilot of Zambot 3 and gets some references in attacks.

And it's by the writer of Kamen Rider Double. (dude likes people combining together I guess)

Dusk Eclipse
2011-12-07, 07:10 PM
On that note:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080530011824/yugioh/images/thumb/e/e5/SuperVehicroid-StealthUnionGLAS-EN-ScR-1E.png/329px-SuperVehicroid-StealthUnionGLAS-EN-ScR-1E.png
In the anime it has a further combination (http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071209025929/yugioh/images/5/57/SuperVehicroid-RexUnion-JP-Anime-GX-NC.png).

For those in this thread who don't understand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wODKm9cI9Lw

Yeah, TTGL is basically the mean average of Getter Robo and GaoGaiGar (with a little FLCL thrown in).
For instance, in GaoGaiGar the green courage-energy is fully a good thing, in Getter Robo its an Eldritch Abomination that can only be controlled by "superior pilots... or the insane!", and in TTGL it's somewhere in between.

Great Prime...now I have the urge to build a yu-gi-oh! deck based on Mecha series....Pelor Dammit my wallet can't afford to sustain another CCG... >_<

Mando Knight
2011-12-07, 07:40 PM
Something more recent that's often mistaken for a TTGL reference: Shoutmon X3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtTSxIZNA2M).
...I dislike their romanization of Drillmon's name. It's obviously supposed to be Drillmon (or maybe Drillermon), get it right!

Prime32
2011-12-07, 09:20 PM
...I dislike their romanization of Drillmon's name. It's obviously supposed to be Drillmon (or maybe Drillermon), get it right!Actually...
Drill = Doriru
(growling noise) = Garuru

Doruru is a portmanteau.


Great Prime...now I have the urge to build a yu-gi-oh! deck based on Mecha series....Pelor Dammit my wallet can't afford to sustain another CCG... >_<Don't forget guys like Guyver (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Elemental_Hero_Neos), Gradius (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gradius_Games) and Jiraiya (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Illegal_Summon) showing up.

AtlanteanTroll
2011-12-07, 09:27 PM
I ... How is that not a Shout Out to TTGL? Yeah, for a while it just looked like it was trying to be an homage to Omnimon, but throwing the V on his chest? Seriously? That's totally TTGL.

Prime32
2011-12-07, 09:30 PM
I ... How is that not a Shout Out to TTGL? Yeah, for a while it just looked like it was trying to be an homage to Omnimon, but throwing the V on his chest? Seriously? That's totally TTGL.TTGL doesn't even have a V on its chest. :smallconfused: Great Mazinger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfGmTzabFM8) does though (and uses it as a boomerang/blaster in the same way - "Breast Burn! Great Boomerang!"). Then there's both Great Mazinger and Shoutmon X4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QllUNqULXJw) using swords. And given that Mazinger Z invented the Super Robot genre, Great isn't exactly obscure.

Meanwhile, the V-shaped slashes are a reference to Voltes V (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekhg-TjxnaQ).

And Gurren-Lagann's design was a homage to Zambot 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32JJ7O65nm0), which some of Shoutmon's forms also reference (since, as I said, same VA (www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI4anxzjRnA)).

Soras Teva Gee
2011-12-07, 09:53 PM
Something more recent that's often mistaken for a TTGL reference: Shoutmon X3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtTSxIZNA2M).

Let's see, we have a hot-blooded red guy who fights with an axe-like weapon, a calm ex-villain who's fast and fights with drills, and a friendly fat guy who fights with missiles. They combine into a robot. Yup, totally TTGL (www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhjds5BtY68). :smallwink:

And the chestplate boomerang thing was invented by Great Mazinger (www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDjkXkMTg-c).

Not as much as I'm sure some would say but... they use the same Gettai! angles on the limbs for that first one.

So if not TTGL then where did TTGL lift it from?

danzibr
2011-12-07, 10:21 PM
And Gurren-Lagann's design was a homage to Zambot 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ3qUPLs5U4)
Man, what was with the chillax background music?

tensai_oni
2011-12-07, 10:25 PM
Man, what was with the chillax background music?

That's music from End of Evangelion. It sounds relaxing but... bad things happen on screen when its played. The title should be a hint: Komm, Zusser Tod (Come, Sweet Death).

But why is Prime linking Super Robot Wars with Voltes and Combattler if he is talking about Zambot 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32JJ7O65nm0)?

Prime32
2011-12-07, 10:29 PM
That's music from End of Evangelion. It sounds relaxing but... bad things happen on screen when its played. The title should be a hint: Komm, Zusser Tod (Come, Sweet Death).

But why is Prime linking Super Robot Wars with Voltes and Combattler if he is talking about Zambot 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32JJ7O65nm0)?Whoops, had a few tabs open.

Dusk Eclipse
2011-12-07, 10:37 PM
Actually...
Drill = Doriru
(growling noise) = Garuru

Doruru is a portmanteau.

Don't forget guys like Guyver (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Elemental_Hero_Neos), Gradius (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gradius_Games) and Jiraiya (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Illegal_Summon) showing up.

Thankfully Illegal Summon seems to be an anime-only card:smalleek: otherwise that might very well be the deal-breaker.

My wallet curses you prime...seriously :smallannoyed:

Obrysii
2011-12-07, 11:32 PM
So, on the topic of Gurren Lagann ... has anyone watched the Green Lantern movie and thought how awesome Simon would be with a Green Power Ring? Parallax would be killed quickly with a massive green-power drill.

Dusk Eclipse
2011-12-08, 12:17 AM
So, on the topic of Gurren Lagann ... has anyone watched the Green Lantern movie and thought how awesome Simon would be with a Green Power Ring? Parallax would be killed quickly with a massive green-power drill.

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l1daquGVRA1qbe91uo1_500.jpg

:smalltongue:

Soras Teva Gee
2011-12-08, 12:27 AM
So, on the topic of Gurren Lagann ... has anyone watched the Green Lantern movie and thought how awesome Simon would be with a Green Power Ring? Parallax would be killed quickly with a massive green-power drill.

And Spiral Power isn't one already?

GL rings top out at a certain range because sure they use willpower, but its the willpower of the universe as a gas tank that fuels the entire Corps, they don't get extra in particular. Guy like Supes, can break just about any construct with effort.

Also Parallax as the an incarnation the bugification of an emotion probably wouldn't die from that, or would put himself back together or something as long as there is fear in existence.

dgnslyr
2011-12-08, 12:31 AM
FANFICERS, MAKE THIS CROSSOVER HAPPEN.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhgwh27XUU1qbw8mwo1_500.jpg

Also, before we leave the wonderful subject of TCG, I'm not too keen on these newfangled "tuners" and "synchros," so I'm sticking to my good old Armed Dragons like a crotchety old man hanging onto his decades-old dogma. They're drilly enough, and they also grow in power, evolving from the Armed Dragon Lvl Lagann, to the Armed Dragon Lvl Gurren Lagann, to the Armed Dragon Lvl Arc Gurren Lagann. Sadly, I have neither Armed Dragon Lvl 10 nor Dark Armed Dragon, and I don't plan on buying either, because I don't know anybody at my school who would admit to playing the wonderful game of YGO.

AtlanteanTroll
2011-12-08, 01:58 AM
TTGL doesn't even have a V on its chest. :smallconfused: Great Mazinger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfGmTzabFM8) does though (and uses it as a boomerang/blaster in the same way - "Breast Burn! Great Boomerang!"). Then there's both Great Mazinger and Shoutmon X4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QllUNqULXJw) using swords. And given that Mazinger Z invented the Super Robot genre, Great isn't exactly obscure.


*cough* Gurren Boomerang *cough*

Eldan
2011-12-08, 07:31 AM
*cough* Gurren Boomerang *cough*

The other way round. TTGL references those series, which are all a good deal older. It's like saying old kung fu and western movies reference Kill Bill.

Nerd-o-rama
2011-12-08, 09:14 AM
Really, Vs or wing-shapes on chests are one of the most common uncommented-upon stylistic bits on super robots. (Vs on the head are copyrighted, though).

Dusk Eclipse
2011-12-08, 09:20 AM
Besides the Gurren Laggan has a pair of Shades on the chest not a V :smalltongue:

Nerd-o-rama
2011-12-08, 09:50 AM
Besides the Gurren Laggan has a pair of Shades on the chest not a V :smalltongue:


Vs or wing-shapes

GL's style of glasses count as the latter, as do the radiators on the original Mazinger Z which started this trend.

Dusk Eclipse
2011-12-08, 10:10 AM
It was a joke >_>

Venom3053000
2011-12-08, 11:49 AM
FANFICERS, MAKE THIS CROSSOVER HAPPEN.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhgwh27XUU1qbw8mwo1_500.jpg

Also, before we leave the wonderful subject of TCG, I'm not too keen on these newfangled "tuners" and "synchros," so I'm sticking to my good old Armed Dragons like a crotchety old man hanging onto his decades-old dogma. They're drilly enough, and they also grow in power, evolving from the Armed Dragon Lvl Lagann, to the Armed Dragon Lvl Gurren Lagann, to the Armed Dragon Lvl Arc Gurren Lagann. Sadly, I have neither Armed Dragon Lvl 10 nor Dark Armed Dragon, and I don't plan on buying either, because I don't know anybody at my school who would admit to playing the wonderful game of YGO.

i agree someone need to make that fanfiction it just great :smallcool:

Mercenary Pen
2011-12-08, 09:26 PM
Thankfully Illegal Summon seems to be an anime-only card:smalleek: otherwise that might very well be the deal-breaker.

My wallet curses you prime...seriously :smallannoyed:


Also, before we leave the wonderful subject of TCG, I'm not too keen on these newfangled "tuners" and "synchros," so I'm sticking to my good old Armed Dragons like a crotchety old man hanging onto his decades-old dogma. They're drilly enough, and they also grow in power, evolving from the Armed Dragon Lvl Lagann, to the Armed Dragon Lvl Gurren Lagann, to the Armed Dragon Lvl Arc Gurren Lagann. Sadly, I have neither Armed Dragon Lvl 10 nor Dark Armed Dragon, and I don't plan on buying either, because I don't know anybody at my school who would admit to playing the wonderful game of YGO.

Regarding the discussion of TCG's- there is a small community of us playing Yugioh on these very boards- using a system that doesn't require hard copies of the cards (ideal for those whose wallets would curse others, or who lack key cards for their decks IRL)- the link in my sig may be worth your time...

dgnslyr
2011-12-08, 10:50 PM
Thanks, I'll look into it as soon as I feel like I have time, which is much later than I'd like, but much sooner than I should.

Hmm, time to dust off World Championship 2006 for some deck ideas.

Obrysii
2011-12-08, 10:53 PM
GL rings top out at a certain range because sure they use willpower, but its the willpower of the universe as a gas tank that fuels the entire Corps, they don't get extra in particular. Guy like Supes, can break just about any construct with effort.

And that's what would make it so much more awesome.

"Where is all this power coming from? You can't be doing this, the green rings have limits!"

"No, that's your limit! We don't give a damn about batteries or rings or whatever! We force our way down a path we've chosen for ourselves ... we defy all those who would stand in our way! Just who the hell do you think we are?!"

Devonix
2011-12-09, 06:58 AM
And Spiral Power isn't one already?

GL rings top out at a certain range because sure they use willpower, but its the willpower of the universe as a gas tank that fuels the entire Corps, they don't get extra in particular. Guy like Supes, can break just about any construct with effort.

Also Parallax as the an incarnation the bugification of an emotion probably wouldn't die from that, or would put himself back together or something as long as there is fear in existence.

Yes you can trap Parallax, but to destroy him you would need to remove all sentient life from existence so that nothing was ever afraid.

danzibr
2011-12-09, 08:39 AM
Whoa, did anyone know of Parallel Works? It's like a bunch of videos that tell... interesting stories related to TTGL.

Eldan
2011-12-09, 08:42 AM
Sure do. I probably haven't seen them all, but they are awesome.

Prime32
2011-12-09, 09:34 AM
Whoa, did anyone know of Parallel Works? It's like a bunch of videos that tell... interesting stories related to TTGL.There were two sets of videos, in case you get confused with numbers.

Obrysii
2011-12-09, 10:27 AM
Yes you can trap Parallax, but to destroy him you would need to remove all sentient life from existence so that nothing was ever afraid.

I was going more on the movie version, where he is largely slain in the standard-uber-villain way: burned up in the sun.

Morph Bark
2011-12-09, 07:01 PM
It's my #3.

Samurai Champloo, you're my number 1. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0ag9Sll6RI)

Which is number two?


There were two sets of videos, in case you get confused with numbers.

So there is two that are numbered 1? In that case, I have missed a lot of them. Half of them, to be precise.