alchemyprime
2011-12-13, 01:57 PM
Hello hello and welcome to Complete Pathfinder. What is Complete Pathfinder? The name is two fold. One, I hope to make something for the entire Pathfinder system akin to the Complete books of 3.5, which will detail out new stuff to use for your games. The other side of it is I want to complete the Pathfinder conversion of 3.5 stuff, or at least of all the stuff I have. Some things have already been done (most of the core rules), some have the flavor saved and did it better (Words of Power are trumping Truenamer, though we may make a wizard archetype to replace that class) and some things are still waiting for us to do.
Yes, us. Playground, I ask of you for help. This is a project of statuementous and monumentesque proportions, and I would value your critical input and creative output to make this thing. Sorry, I just saw The Muppets and Dr. Teeth may be stuc in my head with vermistleacity.
So I'm going to make a list here of proposed fixes and things that should be done, and as we finish them, we can link them to the fixes.
RACES
Some are already done here - they will be marked with RbR
Cephalid - RbR
Diabolus - RbR
Diospid - RbR
Lupin - RbR
Goliath
Raptoran
Thri-Kreen - RbR
Irda - RbR
Insectare - RbR
Other races folks mention?
CLASSES
Archivist - Why not an Archaeologist type class, based more on Divine stuff to his Lurk's psionic, Artificer's artifacts, and Factotum's arcane?
Ardent - I like the Ardent, and woul love to see a new class for him get made.
Artificer - Make a new class as one of a group of intellectual/archaeologist types.
Beguiler - Magus archetype
Binder - Updating the Vestiges, and making at least one new class for it.
Divine Mind - I didn't care for this one much, but if someone else wants to remake hi, maybe as an Ardent archetype, go for it.
Dragonfire Adept - See Warlock
Dread Necromancer - Easiest way is to give it Cantrips, replace Rebuke with Channel, and give it some new thing.
Duskblade - Magus archetype, maybe?
Erudite - Just a new Psion specialization or archetype. Not too hard to do.
Factotum - The skillmonkey and physical guy of the smart guy/archaeologist classes.
Favored Soul - I always liked the class, and I think we can make an overhaul of it to make it different from the Oracle.
Healer - I wouldn't mind finding a way to remake this as a Medic class. And giving him stuff to make the Fighter or Barbarian or some third thing into an Ubercharged Heavy.
Hexblade - Magus archetype
Incarnate/Soulbourne/Totemist - We will update Incarnum and all three classes, as well as two other classes, Soulthief (which I made) and Voidshaper, a class from my failed Incarnum Project, made by WotC board member copperwood.
Lurk - Folding the Psychic Rogue into him, and making an altogether less underpowered class. Maybe as a psionic archaelologist?
Marshal - Update and create a Warlord type class. I have folded the Warlord from Tome of Secrets and Marshal into a class that I think is a high Tier 3, as long as he has people to give his benefits to. I will post this shortly.
Mountebank - I always liked this class from Dragon Compendium. Let's make it work!
Mystic - If we can find a way to keep it from filling the same shoes as Oracle, Favored Soul, and Shaman, I'd love to make this one too.
Noble - A skillmoney/finesse combat class to be the diplomatic negotiator (or agressive negotiator) in a party.
Samurai - Make new Orders based off the CW Samurai and the OA Samurai clans (Crab, Crane, Dragon, Lion, Mantis, Phoenix, Scorpion, Unicorn) for Samurai to join.
Savant - Updated into the comboed spellcaster of the trifecta of smart guys/archaeologist classes.
Shadowcaster - Maybe make a new casting system and update it, or just make a wizard archetype.
Shaman - I liked the Spirit Shaman's idea, and the normal Shaman's level of cool stuff. Combine the two into an alternative, middle step between Oracle and Cleric, and fold in "Totem Powers" based on Totems. Dragon shaman is now Dragon Totem Shaman. Maybe a Bear Totem, a Spider Totem, a Wolf Totem, etc?
Sohei - I beleive this was made a monk archetype. I would not mind making it into an all Lawful Paladin variant as well.
Spellthief - I would not mind remaking this guy.
Swashbuckler - Make a new, updated class in the same vein as the one from Tome of Secrets.
Tome of Battle stuff - Make a variant spellcasting system akin to Words of Power that martial characters can enter with their own rates (Barbarian, Cavalier, Fighter, Gunslinger, Inquisitor, Monk, Ninja, Paladin, Ranger, Rogue, Samurai, Swashbuckler, Warlord). That way your Unarmed Swordsage is still a monk.
Warlock (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=233911) - WIP, needs help.
Wu Jen - Wizard archetype connecting itself to the elemental schools presented in UM and APG. Or we can just say that those wizards already did it, and leave it at that...
Other classes as they are remembered.
Also, I would love for help trying to convert all the monsters (ALL OF THEM!), all the races that have not yet been, and all the templates (especially once I try to tackle that amazing book, the Advanced Bestiary from Green Ronin). Plus, any good homebrew is welcome to come jump in the pool too! I have always been a fan of the homebrew here (especially all the Martial Adept schools, those would be fun to update too).
Then have all of this work compiled into a big ole set of PDFs for folks to reference for fun, Who's with me?
Edit: 4/12/2012 - A little late for me to be posting these, probably, but another thread I did, Races By Request (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230979), has done so far the Diabolus, Diospid and Lupin from Dragon Compendium, the Insectare from Spelljammer, the Irda from Dragonlance, the Thri-Kreen from EPH/Dark Sun, and the Cephalids from Magic the Gathering. And I will still take requests for the races.
Also, I am officially going to try to bring back this thread by also linking to the Pathfinderized Warlock (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=233911) I was working on. Now that I am done with the life stuffs that was in the way, I'M BACK BABY! And I will do my best to make sure that we can USE ALL THE THINGS! that we loved from previous, and maybe even concurrent, editions of the World's First Roleplaying Game, and make it so other Pathfinder fans can also use stuff with little to no hassle.
Yes, us. Playground, I ask of you for help. This is a project of statuementous and monumentesque proportions, and I would value your critical input and creative output to make this thing. Sorry, I just saw The Muppets and Dr. Teeth may be stuc in my head with vermistleacity.
So I'm going to make a list here of proposed fixes and things that should be done, and as we finish them, we can link them to the fixes.
RACES
Some are already done here - they will be marked with RbR
Cephalid - RbR
Diabolus - RbR
Diospid - RbR
Lupin - RbR
Goliath
Raptoran
Thri-Kreen - RbR
Irda - RbR
Insectare - RbR
Other races folks mention?
CLASSES
Archivist - Why not an Archaeologist type class, based more on Divine stuff to his Lurk's psionic, Artificer's artifacts, and Factotum's arcane?
Ardent - I like the Ardent, and woul love to see a new class for him get made.
Artificer - Make a new class as one of a group of intellectual/archaeologist types.
Beguiler - Magus archetype
Binder - Updating the Vestiges, and making at least one new class for it.
Divine Mind - I didn't care for this one much, but if someone else wants to remake hi, maybe as an Ardent archetype, go for it.
Dragonfire Adept - See Warlock
Dread Necromancer - Easiest way is to give it Cantrips, replace Rebuke with Channel, and give it some new thing.
Duskblade - Magus archetype, maybe?
Erudite - Just a new Psion specialization or archetype. Not too hard to do.
Factotum - The skillmonkey and physical guy of the smart guy/archaeologist classes.
Favored Soul - I always liked the class, and I think we can make an overhaul of it to make it different from the Oracle.
Healer - I wouldn't mind finding a way to remake this as a Medic class. And giving him stuff to make the Fighter or Barbarian or some third thing into an Ubercharged Heavy.
Hexblade - Magus archetype
Incarnate/Soulbourne/Totemist - We will update Incarnum and all three classes, as well as two other classes, Soulthief (which I made) and Voidshaper, a class from my failed Incarnum Project, made by WotC board member copperwood.
Lurk - Folding the Psychic Rogue into him, and making an altogether less underpowered class. Maybe as a psionic archaelologist?
Marshal - Update and create a Warlord type class. I have folded the Warlord from Tome of Secrets and Marshal into a class that I think is a high Tier 3, as long as he has people to give his benefits to. I will post this shortly.
Mountebank - I always liked this class from Dragon Compendium. Let's make it work!
Mystic - If we can find a way to keep it from filling the same shoes as Oracle, Favored Soul, and Shaman, I'd love to make this one too.
Noble - A skillmoney/finesse combat class to be the diplomatic negotiator (or agressive negotiator) in a party.
Samurai - Make new Orders based off the CW Samurai and the OA Samurai clans (Crab, Crane, Dragon, Lion, Mantis, Phoenix, Scorpion, Unicorn) for Samurai to join.
Savant - Updated into the comboed spellcaster of the trifecta of smart guys/archaeologist classes.
Shadowcaster - Maybe make a new casting system and update it, or just make a wizard archetype.
Shaman - I liked the Spirit Shaman's idea, and the normal Shaman's level of cool stuff. Combine the two into an alternative, middle step between Oracle and Cleric, and fold in "Totem Powers" based on Totems. Dragon shaman is now Dragon Totem Shaman. Maybe a Bear Totem, a Spider Totem, a Wolf Totem, etc?
Sohei - I beleive this was made a monk archetype. I would not mind making it into an all Lawful Paladin variant as well.
Spellthief - I would not mind remaking this guy.
Swashbuckler - Make a new, updated class in the same vein as the one from Tome of Secrets.
Tome of Battle stuff - Make a variant spellcasting system akin to Words of Power that martial characters can enter with their own rates (Barbarian, Cavalier, Fighter, Gunslinger, Inquisitor, Monk, Ninja, Paladin, Ranger, Rogue, Samurai, Swashbuckler, Warlord). That way your Unarmed Swordsage is still a monk.
Warlock (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=233911) - WIP, needs help.
Wu Jen - Wizard archetype connecting itself to the elemental schools presented in UM and APG. Or we can just say that those wizards already did it, and leave it at that...
Other classes as they are remembered.
Also, I would love for help trying to convert all the monsters (ALL OF THEM!), all the races that have not yet been, and all the templates (especially once I try to tackle that amazing book, the Advanced Bestiary from Green Ronin). Plus, any good homebrew is welcome to come jump in the pool too! I have always been a fan of the homebrew here (especially all the Martial Adept schools, those would be fun to update too).
Then have all of this work compiled into a big ole set of PDFs for folks to reference for fun, Who's with me?
Edit: 4/12/2012 - A little late for me to be posting these, probably, but another thread I did, Races By Request (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230979), has done so far the Diabolus, Diospid and Lupin from Dragon Compendium, the Insectare from Spelljammer, the Irda from Dragonlance, the Thri-Kreen from EPH/Dark Sun, and the Cephalids from Magic the Gathering. And I will still take requests for the races.
Also, I am officially going to try to bring back this thread by also linking to the Pathfinderized Warlock (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=233911) I was working on. Now that I am done with the life stuffs that was in the way, I'M BACK BABY! And I will do my best to make sure that we can USE ALL THE THINGS! that we loved from previous, and maybe even concurrent, editions of the World's First Roleplaying Game, and make it so other Pathfinder fans can also use stuff with little to no hassle.