Umm, so I want to play a Twilight Sparkle (MLP:FiM) themed character... (3.5 or PF) [Archive]

Scarlet-Devil

2011-12-19, 05:48 PM

Dead serious; I've been real hooked on MLP lately, and Twilight Sparkle is my favourite studious, initially-unsociable, eggheaded wizard-prodigy pony. I've also been wanting to play a more benign, non-aggressive character for a long time now, so this is probably a good opportunity.

I say 3.5 or Pathfinder because I'm not sure which it is just yet, but my group is going to be finishing a campaign soon and beginning a new one, and we'll either (hopefully) be trying Pathfinder, or sticking with 3.5. I should make it clear first of all that I don't intend to actually play a unicorn or any kind of equine creature; I like to borrow qualities from characters I like, but I don't like to play another person's character, hence, what I'm going for is more of a general, anthropomorphized (maybe elf or aasimar) version of Twilight.

So, with that in mind, what should I be? It doesn't necessarily have to be a wizard, but a class that has an excuse to be studious and knowledgeable is ideal. Abilities I need are telekinesis, teleportation (at least short range), and possibly benign enchantment effects. My idea so far is to play a Conjurer wizard with either Abrupt Jaunt, if using 3.5, or the teleportation conjurer archetype in Pathfinder, either an owl or a pseudodragon familiar (not strictly necessary, but awesome), and probably some kind of an emphasis on transmutation spells.

What spells, aside from Mage Hand and some kind of short range teleportation, should I have? What comes to mind when you think about converting Twilight to D&D? Assume that the character will be starting at a low level.

Namfuak

2011-12-19, 05:56 PM

Druid 5/wizard 3/Arcane Hierophant? Wildshape into a purple pony, and then get the feat that lets you cast while wildshaped. Bonus - take that shapeshifter PrC so you can shapeshift at will (if I remember right).

Lord Bingo

2011-12-19, 06:22 PM

An Aasimar Bard sounds a lot like what you are describing and (at least in Pathfinder) they get all the spells you need.

Antagonasty

2011-12-19, 06:52 PM

Awakened Pony, Sorcerer. That might cause a problem with somatic components, but people have found solutions to weirder problems:smallbiggrin:

Psyren

2011-12-19, 06:53 PM

I thought this thread was actually going to be about Edward Cullen, and was all set to recommend Maenad. I has sad.

Scarlet-Devil

2011-12-19, 07:04 PM

I thought this thread was actually going to be about Edward Cullen, and was all set to recommend Maenad. I has sad.

(Just for educational purposes-)
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk0wktS4id1qb59nf.jpg

Alabenson

2011-12-19, 08:17 PM

Every D&D stat up I've ever seen of Twilight has had her as a wizard, so that would be a good starting point. My advice would be to play a conjuration specialist and take the Abrupt Jaunt ACF from the PHB2, which allows you to teleport 10 ft. as an immediate action a number of times per day equal to your Int modifier. This will cost you your familiar, so you'll need to take Obtain Familiar if you want one. Also, if your DM will allow it, you may want to consider Leadership for a dragon assistant.

Mando Knight

2011-12-19, 08:24 PM

You'll need the familiar, by the way. No Twilight Sparkle wannabe is complete without Improved Familiar for a pseudodragon.

Also, wizard is it. No other arcane caster is so intertwined with the ideal of sitting in the library studying spells all day. Which is Twilight's thing.

Psyren

2011-12-19, 09:25 PM

(Just for educational purposes-)
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk0wktS4id1qb59nf.jpg

I am now cheered

nyarlathotep

2011-12-19, 09:56 PM

A nomad psion could also be usable as most of twilight's powers deal with movement or telekinesis. Not that this is necessarily a better idea than wizard, I'm just trying to bring more options to the table.

Menteith

2011-12-19, 09:56 PM

Every D&D stat up I've ever seen of Twilight ...

How many of these are out there /boggle? Wizard is certainly the correct choice. We see that her spellcasting is learned through research, and that she is able to replicate the magic of others if it's taught to her.

Here's a rough list of abilities that I can think of. Off the top of my head...

Polymorph any Object (Rocks to Clothing and later on, an apple to stagecoach)
Detect Gems (as a Gold Dragon, don't think there's a direct spell that does this)
Cloudwalking (as a Silver Dragon, could be replicated through a number of Flight effects)
Casts Fly on Rarity
(Greater) Dispel Magic ("failsafe" spell which can't beat Discord's CL)
Animate Objects (on a plow that she loses control of)
Mage Hand numerous times
Deep Slumber (putting a Dire Bear to sleep)
Something to the Parasprites - I'm not sure which spell would be most applicable here if you assume they have swarm traits (and immunity to Mind Affecting).
Miser's Envy, Mass (on her doll Smartypants - I know there's no Mass version of the spell, but it's the most appropriate)
Abrupt Jaunt
Owl Familiar
Leadership for a chromatic Wyrmling (hope he doesn't grow up)
A way of giving out moral bonuses reliably and a very high Diplomacy skill.

Flickerdart

2011-12-19, 09:59 PM

Psyren

2011-12-19, 10:49 PM

I know you said 3.5 or Pathfinder, but I feel like it's a perfect opportunity to plug Legend (http://www.ruleofcool.com/), because we already made a conversion (http://www.ruleofcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/My-Little-Legend.pdf) of MLP.

Not to derail the thread but honestly... for all the other merits of the system, I really dislike a lot of the ability/feat names. It's just seems like a mish-mash of memes, net/fratspeak, and random movie references to me. And not just this project, but the core rules as well.

I'm sure that's what you guys were going for, but it's just a turn-off for me.

Hiro Protagonest

2011-12-19, 10:52 PM

Druid 5/wizard 3/Arcane Hierophant? Wildshape into a purple pony, and then get the feat that lets you cast while wildshaped.

You say to take Natural Spell as if it wasn't a given as soon as you said "druid".

Scarlet-Devil

2011-12-20, 03:19 AM

How many of these are out there /boggle? Wizard is certainly the correct choice. We see that her spellcasting is learned through research, and that she is able to replicate the magic of others if it's taught to her.

Here's a rough list of abilities that I can think of. Off the top of my head...

Polymorph any Object (Rocks to Clothing and later on, an apple to stagecoach)
Detect Gems (as a Gold Dragon, don't think there's a direct spell that does this)
Cloudwalking (as a Silver Dragon, could be replicated through a number of Flight effects)
Casts Fly on Rarity
(Greater) Dispel Magic ("failsafe" spell which can't beat Discord's CL)
Animate Objects (on a plow that she loses control of)
Mage Hand numerous times
Deep Slumber (putting a Dire Bear to sleep)
Something to the Parasprites - I'm not sure which spell would be most applicable here if you assume they have swarm traits (and immunity to Mind Affecting).
Miser's Envy, Mass (on her doll Smartypants - I know there's no Mass version of the spell, but it's the most appropriate)
Abrupt Jaunt
Owl Familiar
Leadership for a chromatic Wyrmling (hope he doesn't grow up)
A way of giving out moral bonuses reliably and a very high Diplomacy skill.

This kind of thing is mostly what I was looking for. I'm not familiar with Miser's Envy, but the first thing that came to mind as I was watching that episode is Sympathy, which effects all creatures of a certain type (ponies) within a certain range. Both that and PAO are 8th level spells though, unfortunately...

The gem detecting spell was a plot related one that she learned from Rarity (as I recall), so it's not super important to me to have that.

As far as Twilight herself goes, I kind've like to think of Spike as her familiar, considering that she gained him as part of her magical initiation test. But speaking of familiars, does anyone happen to know of any ways to make familiars stronger? Pseudodragons' poison is pretty awesome, but familiars don't gain any extra hit dice or ability improvements to make it stronger :smallfrown:.

Alleran

2011-12-20, 03:47 AM

While this thread is up, has anybody actually statted out how Rainbow Dash might have pulled that 1600+ G-forces Sonic Rainboom by D&D rules?

As far as Twilight herself goes, I kind've like to think of Spike as her familiar, considering that she gained him as part of her magical initiation test.
You might be able to instead stat Spike up as a wyrmling dragon of some description, through the Dragon Familiar feat.

Frosty

2011-12-20, 03:57 AM

RD is a Raptoran Monk of some sort who optimizes for as much speed as possible, and has some wierd homebrew feat that gives bonus damage on the charge based on your speed.

HunterOfJello

2011-12-20, 05:19 AM

At first I thought this was a thread about making a Twilight based Vampire. As such, I was going to say some mean things. Weird ponies that act like d&d Unicorns aren't that bad in comparison.

koscum

2011-12-20, 06:16 AM

While this thread is up, has anybody actually statted out how Rainbow Dash might have pulled that 1600+ G-forces Sonic Rainboom by D&D rules?

You might be able to instead stat Spike up as a wyrmling dragon of some description, through the Dragon Familiar feat.
Pretty easily if you discard CC errata. On the other han... hoof, is there a way to pull off MACH 1+ without (now non-viable) Footsteps of the Divine + Persist? Scarab of Invulnerability should easily take care of the whole "being ripped apart by G-focres as you make a π/2 rad turn during the MACH 1+ dive" thing. Perfect manoeuvrability and, I'd say, Twisted Charge are a must.

On the topic of Twilight, I'd say full Wizard or Wizard X/Some Wizard PrC Y. Owl Familiar, Dragon Cohort, getting Diplomacy as class skill and ranking it up, and decent CHA score should do the trick. Selecting spells to fit the show might take a while. Menteith pretty much said it all. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12403648&postcount=11)

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At first I thought this was a thread about making a Twilight based Vampire. As such, I was going to say some mean things. Weird ponies that act like d&d Unicorns aren't that bad in comparison.
Spoiler in post #6 FTW! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12402712&postcount=6)

Kyouhen

2011-12-20, 10:51 AM

I'd strongly suggest you pick up Colour Spray as well as every prismatic spell you can get your hands on. Just for when you really need to blast something. :smalltongue:

EDIT:
Bonus points if there's another spellcaster in the party with access to those spells and you pick up... Cooperative Spell? I think it was Cooperative Spell. Did something that made spells more powerful if multiple casters cast it at the same time. Friendship is magic indeed. :smallwink:

BobVosh

2011-12-20, 11:15 AM

I would say Mage of the Unseen Hand is kinda a must for this character. Just a thought.

Wyntonian

2011-12-20, 11:39 AM

Welcome to the Herd. I also would like to promote use of Colour Spray as a primary combat mechanic. We wouldn't want to hurt anyone.

Frosty

2011-12-20, 12:24 PM

At first I thought this was a thread about making a Twilight based Vampire. As such, I was going to say some mean things. Weird ponies that act like d&d Unicorns aren't that bad in comparison.
How about Unicorns, Pegasisters, and Earth Ponies (http://friendshipisdragons.thecomicseries.com/comics/58) that act like murderous hobos trying to save the worls? (well, most of them anyways)

marcielle

2011-12-20, 12:41 PM

Frosty

2011-12-20, 12:50 PM

Most unicorns only have racial SLAs. Twilight actually studies.

erikun

2011-12-20, 12:54 PM

Wizard, Archivist, and Erudite strike me as the most Twilight Sparkle-ish character classes. All three are centered around studying and gaining a large collection of spells, which pretty much fits Twilight's motivations to a T. Loremaster would probably be an appropriate prestige class, as might Divine Oracle (depending on how you interpret it). The Psion and Cloistered Cleric can work, as well.

If you aren't tied to 3.5e yet, could I perhaps recommend a 4e Wizard? Mage Hand at-will would fit Twilight far better than nearly any other spellcasting gimmick you can put together in 3.5e.

Yorae

2011-12-20, 12:54 PM

This thread is lol.

Spell-to-Power erudite? That takes care of most of the somatic components while giving you the fluff. Unicorn magic is really more akin to psionics. No somatic/verbal, shining light and sounds when magic is being made and is mostly done by concentrating real hard.
Now, StP might be overkill in most games, but I remember Spike saying Twi was far more versatile in her magic than most ponies anyway.

Also, Dimension Hop = Twilight telespam

I was thinking maybe Inconstant Location.

This really gives a new meaning to the "Seven Mounting Heavens of Celestia".

Maybe she's an Exalted Arcanist?

Knowledge Devotion fits her flavor to a T, but not her mechanics. Domain Wizard? Knowledge Domain, Community Domain?

HearTheRequiem

2011-12-20, 12:56 PM

Don't forget to have NO ranks in Sense Motive.

If Twilight had Sense Motive, she would've seen through Applejack's (Incredibly bad) lies when she got turned by Discord.:smalltongue:

And now I want to try and stat up Rarity, I'm thinking a sorceress or something...

Frosty

2011-12-20, 01:21 PM

But Rarity only has telekenesis and Detect Gems right? Those can be fluffed as racial SLAs. Rarity is more of the Rogue or Expert class with a lot of ranks in social skills.

Scarlet-Devil

2011-12-20, 01:27 PM

This really gives a new meaning to the "Seven Mounting Heavens of Celestia".

:smallfrown:
....

Frosty

2011-12-20, 01:36 PM

There is to be no clopping in this thread.

While we're at it, how might we stat up Princess Celestia? Do we give her a lot of class levels or is she more like Gandalf (hugely powerful base race)?

Scarlet-Devil

2011-12-20, 01:45 PM

There is to be no clopping in this thread.

While we're at it, how might we stat up Princess Celestia? Do we give her a lot of class levels or is she more like Gandalf (hugely powerful base race)?

Ooh, I second that. Half-celestial unicorn handles her physical characteristics (unicorn horn + wings), as well as granting pretty hefty racial bonuses and abilities all around. Barring that, you might say that she's either a unique creature, like a powerful celestial or a demigod.

What kind of abilities would she need?

Frosty

2011-12-20, 02:18 PM

She's got magic..a LOT of it. I haven't seen her do any direct fighting, so we can only give her a lot of levels in some caster class, but she also has a LOT of ranks in social skills as well like Sense Motive. They don't call her Princess Trollestia for nothing.

legomaster00156

2011-12-20, 02:22 PM

Princess Celestia is powerful. Really, REALLY powerful. She's a goddess, or at the very least close to one. I'll build up a character sheet for her and show it in Ponythread when I'm done.

Frosty

2011-12-20, 02:31 PM

She's got her limitations obviously. She couldn't do a THING about DIscord, for example. She didn't even know her precious elements were missing!

Man, I miss Q. He's da man.:smallcool:

Yorae

2011-12-20, 02:52 PM

:smallfrown:
....

Trust me when I say I did not think through what that sounded like. o_O
I was thinking.. you know.. mount. Because she's a horse.

Was just pointing out the same name, despite my hilariously poor choice of wording.

Princess Celestia is powerful. Really, REALLY powerful. She's a goddess, or at the very least close to one. I'll build up a character sheet for her and show it in Ponythread when I'm done.

When has she done anything massively powerful? I mean, I guess she stuck her sister on the moon, but I'm sure that's not more than the equivalent of a 9th (Imprisonment?)

Also, something that bugs me: I'm not much of a brony, so maybe one of you folks know; Why is Celestia a princess? She rules basically everything, is currently in power, and has no parent around to be seen. Shouldn't she be Queen Celestia?

Alabenson

2011-12-20, 03:04 PM

Mando Knight

2011-12-20, 03:08 PM

When has she done anything massively powerful? I mean, I guess she stuck her sister on the moon, but I'm sure that's not more than the equivalent of a 9th (Imprisonment?)
By all accounts she also makes night and day. And casts a fairly wide-area dispel, and teleports in from who knows where.

Her sister shows off a little more, but that's because she's the ONE TRUE PRINCESS OF THE NIIIIIIIGHT!

Also, something that bugs me: I'm not much of a brony, so maybe one of you folks know; Why is Celestia a princess? She rules basically everything, is currently in power, and has no parent around to be seen. Shouldn't she be Queen Celestia?
The creator thinks so, too, but Hasbro says that girls think that Queens are evil, so she has to be a Princess.

Scarlet-Devil

2011-12-20, 03:17 PM

Trust me when I say I did not think through what that sounded like. o_O
I was thinking.. you know.. mount. Because she's a horse.

Was just pointing out the same name, despite my hilariously poor choice of wording.

Heh, that meaning is actually what came to my mind first, but it's a bad pun either way. :smalltongue:

As far as her powers go, she seems to be basically a high level wizard; banishing her sister to the moon might be the equivalent of a differently-fluffed Imprisonment, as you said, turning Discord to stone could just be Flesh to Stone, etc. The whole 'controlling night and day' thing really seems to suggest divinity, but on the other hand, the setting is a highly magical one in which the weather itself is controlled by the land's residents, so perhaps controlling the sun and moon could just be epic magic or something, though trying to think about that realistically makes the head hurt.

Yorae

2011-12-20, 03:33 PM

...the setting is a highly magical one in which the weather itself is controlled by the land's residents, so perhaps controlling the sun and moon could just be epic magic or something, though trying to think about that realistically makes the head hurt.

That reminds me a great deal, oddly enough, of the Outlands of Planescape. The collective actions and beliefs of the inhabitants of the settlements affect the position of the settlements themselves in relation to the other planes. If enough residents of a town were sufficiently lawful evil, for example, the town would eventually actually become part of Baator.

koscum

2011-12-20, 04:42 PM

She's got her limitations obviously. She couldn't do a THING about DIscord, for example. She didn't even know her precious elements were missing!

Man, I miss Q. He's da man.:smallcool:
Let's stat out Q :smallbiggrin:.

My explanation for that is that they're both deities, but Discord has the higher divine rank.
I don't think they're quite there yet. Probably somewhere in mid-high Epics, 42 or so. And if she's also a wizard (and she most likely is), she's way ahead of deities anyway (they're far too easy to kill and take over their power). The same goes for Discord. By the time they resolve the first round of combat, we'll all be long dead of boredom, so they decided not to do it for all of our sakes.

Besides, I don't think she rises the sun every day, just once a year... It would probably lead to suicidal boredom if you'd have to do it every single day.

Oh, no.... Horrible idea incoming: DisQord

Let's stat out..... PINKIE!!! I think we need a new base class for her...

Yorae

2011-12-20, 05:42 PM

Let's stat out Q :smallbiggrin:.
Let's stat out..... PINKIE!!! I think we need a new base class for her...

Commoner 1 (Chicken-Infested) / Bard X / ???

vegetalss4

2011-12-20, 05:52 PM

koscum

2011-12-20, 05:59 PM

Commoner 1 (Chicken-Infested) / Bard X / ???
??? == Cheats Enabled 1.

Frosty

2011-12-20, 06:13 PM

Commoner 1 (Chicken-Infested) / Bard X / ???
Cake-infested?

Doc Roc

2011-12-20, 06:35 PM

So my initial impulse is psion or ardent, but I feel obligated to mention that Legend has direct support for a Musketeers-Flavored MLP world.

Zaq

2011-12-20, 06:40 PM

Also, something that bugs me: I'm not much of a brony, so maybe one of you folks know; Why is Celestia a princess? She rules basically everything, is currently in power, and has no parent around to be seen. Shouldn't she be Queen Celestia?

My personal interpretation is that "princess" is a type of pony. Unicorns have horns/magic, pegasus ponies have wings, and princess ponies are super huge and have both wings and horns/magic. Oh, and they're also deities, as far as I'm concerned. (Her domains are Sun, Community, and Magic.)

None of this has official backing. It's just what makes sense to me.

Rubik

2011-12-20, 06:45 PM

Spell-to-Power erudite? That takes care of most of the somatic components while giving you the fluff. Unicorn magic is really more akin to psionics. No somatic/verbal, shining light and sounds when magic is being made and is mostly done by concentrating real hard.
Now, StP might be overkill in most games, but I remember Spike saying Twi was far more versatile in her magic than most ponies anyway.

Also, Dimension Hop = Twilight telespamYou just know she's aiming for levels in thrallherd. Celestia is looking for more thralls to add to the herd, and she's got Twilight out there 'making friends,' as she has a thrallherd pyramid scheme going down.

But yes, have her be a bariaur (refluffed such that anything doable via hands is done through touch-ranged telekinesis instead) erudite heading to thrallherd.

Dusk Eclipse

2011-12-20, 07:09 PM

My personal interpretation is that "princess" is a type of pony. Unicorns have horns/magic, pegasus ponies have wings, and princess ponies are super huge and have both wings and horns/magic. Oh, and they're also deities, as far as I'm concerned. (Her domains are Sun, Community, and Magic.)

None of this has official backing. It's just what makes sense to me.

According to the storyboard artists both Celestia and Luna are Alicorns (http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/File:Celestiaspecies.png)

Note: it is from the MLP wiki and I don't know how accurate that is...

erikun

2011-12-20, 07:17 PM

Let's stat out Q :smallbiggrin:.
Pun-Pun from a first-level Bard.

Frosty

2011-12-20, 07:36 PM

My personal interpretation is that "princess" is a type of pony. Unicorns have horns/magic, pegasus ponies have wings, and princess ponies are super huge and have both wings and horns/magic. Oh, and they're also deities, as far as I'm concerned. (Her domains are Sun, Community, and Magic.)

None of this has official backing. It's just what makes sense to me.
Officially, Princess Celestia is an Alicorn I think. A pegasis/unicorn mix.

EDIT: Ninja'ed

koscum

2011-12-20, 07:39 PM

Cake-infested?

Cake Infested [Flaw]
Skill Focus (Cake baking)
Improvised Weapon Proficiency (Cake)
Weapon Focus (Cake)
Weapon Specialization (Cake)
Point Blank Shot
Ranged Power Attack (Cake)
you get the point

Pun-Pun from a first-level Bard.
You ruined the Multiverse! I guess we can apply the same to Discord.

Officially, Princess Celestia is an Alicorn I think. A pegasis/unicorn mix.

EDIT: Ninja'ed
Swordsage >> Ninja

Dusk Eclipse

2011-12-20, 07:46 PM

Zaq

2011-12-20, 08:19 PM

I have to second Twilight as an erudite psion (spell to power optional), I think it can work pretty well if you just try to avoid the most game-breaking spells and/or applications of them and you are set.

And remember, if you don't avoid the most broken spells, you'll be just like Trixie, and everyone will hate you.

But no pressure.

Frosty

2011-12-20, 08:29 PM

Trixie didn't have any broken spells. She just has a few flashy ones unsuited for adventuring. Ponyville was lucky Twilight Sparkle has the Overchannel feat to boost her ML enough for that Telekenesis power :smallbiggrin:

Zaq

2011-12-20, 08:33 PM

Frosty

2011-12-20, 09:10 PM

Psh. Twilight Sparkle is much better optimized compared to Trixie, who is probably a Bard, and Ponyville is better off for it. If Twilight weren't powerful, then Ponyville would've been flooded (Mare Do Well episode), and nopony wants that!

The only reason Twilight's failsafe didn't work is because she failed her Caster Level check vs Discord's epic effect.

The Random NPC

2011-12-20, 11:49 PM

Frosty

2011-12-21, 12:01 AM

Has anyone mentioned this (www.enworld.org/forum/pathfinder-rpg-discussion/303821-what-hell-paizo.html)? It was an April Fools joke done by Paizo, and I can't find the original, but I hear a lot of squeeing about it.I don't think those races conform to the Advanced Race Guide Playtest :smalltongue: Can't fit that into 10 pts.

On another note, who else thinks we need to stat Fluttershy as a Pathfinder Alchemist who goes into Mad Chymist? She's totally got a Jeckyll and Hyde thing going on...

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/261/5/3/flutterbitch_by_lordmardok-d4a7xbc.jpg

koscum

2011-12-21, 05:07 AM

I don't think those races conform to the Advanced Race Guide Playtest :smalltongue: Can't fit that into 10 pts.

On another note, who else thinks we need to stat Fluttershy as a Pathfinder Alchemist who goes into Mad Chymist? She's totally got a Jeckyll and Hyde thing going on...

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/261/5/3/flutterbitch_by_lordmardok-d4a7xbc.jpg
Fluttershy is VoP¹+VoN Druid and/or Ranger with maxed out Handle Animal.

¹ = Vow of Peace

Has anyone mentioned this (www.enworld.org/forum/pathfinder-rpg-discussion/303821-what-hell-paizo.html)? It was an April Fools joke done by Paizo, and I can't find the original, but I hear a lot of squeeing about it.
That thread is made of PURE and WIN.

Ravens_cry

2011-12-21, 05:14 AM

There is always this (http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?569049-What-the-hell-Paizo).
Some of the rules mentioned don't actually exist, like Cutie Mark rules, but it should be enough to get you started.
Though I am not a My Little Pony fan, 'ironic' or otherwise, some of the ideas are pretty good for players who want to play quadrupeds without hands, like Non-Dexterous.

Frosty

2011-12-21, 01:18 PM

Fluttershy is VoP¹+VoN Druid and/or Ranger with maxed out Handle Animal.Yeah, but unfortunately she maxed CHA instead of WIS. She also PrCed out of Druid early on into probably Beastmaster.

Scarlet-Devil

2011-12-21, 01:32 PM

Princess Celestia is powerful. Really, REALLY powerful. She's a goddess, or at the very least close to one. I'll build up a character sheet for her and show it in Ponythread when I'm done.

How's that coming along?

koscum

2011-12-21, 03:18 PM

Yeah, but unfortunately she maxed CHA instead of WIS. She also PrCed out of Druid early on into probably Beastmaster.
True, but when the rest of the party is in mortal danger, she reveals that she's actually a tristalted character who can use (maxed out and then once again) Intimidate on everything (even on things immune to it) and cause them to become Cowering with a DC of "don't even bother, 'cause Nat20 won't save you".

Madcrafter

2011-12-21, 06:26 PM

True, but when the rest of the party is in mortal danger, she reveals that she's actually a tristalted character who can use (maxed out and then once again) Intimidate on everything (even on things immune to it) and cause them to become Cowering with a DC of "don't even bother, 'cause Nat20 won't save you".

Now I'm thinking barbarian, which, while sounding odd, might fit.

Frosty

2011-12-21, 06:28 PM

Actually, she only causes them to be Shaken, but for her, Intimidate STACKS with itself, so she was able to stare at the cockatrice to make it Shaken, then Frightened, then Panicked.

If the cockatrice was unable to run, it would've become Cowering.

koscum

2011-12-22, 07:31 AM

Now I'm thinking barbarian, which, while sounding odd, might fit.
4th image in this post (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12356611&postcount=722)

Actually, she only causes them to be Shaken, but for her, Intimidate STACKS with itself, so she was able to stare at the cockatrice to make it Shaken, then Frightened, then Panicked.

If the cockatrice was unable to run, it would've become Cowering.
Shs made the dragon cry pretty fast, though. She probably has several fear-related abilities.
Now we have to find a way to give her immune to immune to fear and/or mind-affecting.

Starscream

2011-12-22, 10:57 AM

Don't really have much to add, just want to point out that the Spell Compendium has a spell called Treasure Scent that basically works like the gem-detecting spell. You detect the location of any valuables in the vicinity, as with Detect Magic.

Also, I saw someone stat up the various pony races somewhere, along with the characters but I don't remember where. I think I recall the basic idea, though.

* Earth ponies got an extra feat and skill point, like humans, and +2 strength.

* Pegasi had a fly speed equal to their land speed (so you used Barbarian or Monk levels to get someone super fast like Rainbow Dash), +2 Dexterity, the ability to walk on clouds, and 1/week Control Weather (which takes an hour to cast, as they have to push clouds around).

* Unicorns got +2 Intelligence or Charisma (player's choice), at will Mage Hand, and an at will first level spell. I think the 1st level spell was limited to a list, and they were basically all utility spells.

Frosty

2011-12-22, 12:50 PM

1 hour? Psh. Rainbow Dash can do it in 10 seconds flat!

Zaq

2011-12-22, 12:54 PM

1 hour? Psh. Rainbow Dash can do it in 10 seconds flat!

Rainbow Dash has class levels. This is for pegasi who don't invest in it.

Frosty

2011-12-22, 12:59 PM

This is why RD is 20% cooler, but what levels does RD have? I don't think levels in Barbarian should help clear weather quicker.

Dusk Eclipse

2011-12-22, 01:30 PM

She took a homebrewed feat which allows her to reduce the time to cast her control weather SLA based on her land speed. I also think she doesn't have normal rage but whirling frenzy and perhaps enough swordsage levels to get Tornado throw (that is the only ability in the game that is so dependant on movement speed that I can remember) for the sonic rainboom.

koscum

2011-12-22, 01:41 PM

Scarlet-Devil

2011-12-22, 02:28 PM

Don't really have much to add, just want to point out that the Spell Compendium has a spell called Treasure Scent that basically works like the gem-detecting spell. You detect the location of any valuables in the vicinity, as with Detect Magic.

Splendiferous! That's definitely one to add to the list then, although its blockability by more than a foot of stone is kind've annoying.