Sexy Telepathy (3.5 Spell, PEACH)

[NeoSeraphi]

Don't ask. Just know that this is all Wyntonian's (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/member.php?u=58541) fault.

Sexy Telepathy
Enchantment (Charm) [Mind-Affecting]
Level: Bard 4
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Medium
Target: One living creature who has a language
Duration: 1 hour/level
Saving Throw: Will Negates
SR: Yes

You form a telepathic bond with the targeted creature. The creature must make a Will save or be subject to this bond for the duration of the spell. If the distance between you and the affected creature ever exceeds 100 ft +10 ft/level, the bond is suppressed until you get back in range. Additionally, the creature hears your voice inside its head as the most attractive voice it can imagine. Your voice's tone matches the creature's desires exactly. Your voice becomes either male or female, whichever the creature finds more attractive, and deepens or softens to meet the creature's exact preferences as well. This deep personal connection results in the creature being charmed, as if by a charm monster spell, and you also receive a +20 bonus on Charisma-based skill checks you make with the creature telepathically. You do not receive the bonus to Charisma ability checks (such as the check required to convince a creature to do something it normally wouldn't, as the charm monster spell), and this spell's bonus to Charisma-based checks does not stack with the bonus provided by the glibness spell.

[Morph Bark]

Every telepathy should be sexy.

It makes tapping telepathic conversations between the BBEG and his/her Dragon much, much better.

[Mulletmanalive]

Should probably require you to be able to speak the target's language [i'm pretty sure regular telepathy does].

Other than that, I actually designed the same thing as a psionic power about 3 years ago. Spooky...

[Circle of Life]

What happens if you use this on a Warforged? :smallconfused:

[Siosilvar]

Now all you'll need is a divination and an alter self...

What? Don't look at me like that.

[Wyntonian]

....It's been like 10 minutes. Damn, you're quick. Does the sheer sexyness of the telepathy preclude any dependence on language?

[NeoSeraphi]

Should probably require you to be able to speak the target's language [i'm pretty sure regular telepathy does].


Nope, here's the SRD:



A creature with this ability can communicate telepathically with any other creature within a certain range (specified in the creature’s entry, usually 100 feet) that has a language.


....It's been like 10 minutes. Damn, you're quick. Does the sheer sexyness of the telepathy preclude any dependence on language?

That's what she sa- I mean, yes, it does. *points to above quote*


What happens if you use this on a Warforged? :smallconfused:

I'm not certain constructs are capable of feeling attraction, but if they are, the DM would have to improvise. Otherwise, I'm sure it'd just work like a normal charm monster.

[Yitzi]

Insight bonus seems wrong; it's not that you have greater knowledge of what to do, it's just that they find it more attractive. I'd say make it an unnamed bonus; in terms of mechanics it's not much difference (as insight bonuses to skills and ability checks are pretty rare and minor).

Also, "Charisma checks" means just ability checks; you might also want to include Charisma-based skill checks.

[NeoSeraphi]

Insight bonus seems wrong; it's not that you have greater knowledge of what to do, it's just that they find it more attractive. I'd say make it an unnamed bonus; in terms of mechanics it's not much difference (as insight bonuses to skills and ability checks are pretty rare and minor).

Also, "Charisma checks" means just ability checks; you might also want to include Charisma-based skill checks.

Changed, thank you.

Edit: Clarified that the spell only works while you're in range of each other.

[sengmeng]

Awesome!

I have to add more words because awesome is too short, but know that I would have just left it at "Awesome!" if allowed.

[Orzel]

Love this spell.
It would be weird to realize what voices your target might find sexy.

Inside the mind of the town guardsmen:

open the gate for mal please. why does mal's voice sound like orc. mal is a human. So is guard man. mal guesses mal knows where some of those half orc kids near the orphanage came from. ewww though.

[Yitzi]

Changed, thank you.

So now it doesn't work on actual ability checks?

(The obvious ramification is the opposed Charisma check to get a charmed creature to do something it normally wouldn't; whether a +20 on that check would make this spell too powerful or is desired is another question which I'll let you decide.)

[NeoSeraphi]

So now it doesn't work on actual ability checks?

(The obvious ramification is the opposed Charisma check to get a charmed creature to do something it normally wouldn't; whether a +20 on that check would make this spell too powerful or is desired is another question which I'll let you decide.)

No, it doesn't work on ability checks. I don't believe physical attractiveness contributes to a person going against their moral beliefs. While you can certainly Bluff better or be more Diplomatic, and perhaps use that to convince the target to do what you like, an actual check to use your spell to compel them to act against their normal behavior is getting into the realm of (compulsion), and I don't want to do that.

[Calmar]

Some people will even pay gold coins to experience sexy telepathy.

[Morph Bark]

Some people will even pay gold coins to experience sexy telepathy.

Welcome to the NeoSeraphi Hotline.

...whaaaaatt?

[Pyromancer999]

The only thing I could imagine once I read this was an old obese wizard using this on a fit young roguish lad to the point where it'd basically be dominate monster.:smallbiggrin: Just saying.

[NeoSeraphi]

The only thing I could imagine once I read this was an old obese wizard using this on a fit young roguish lad to the point where it'd basically be dominate monster.:smallbiggrin: Just saying.

Well that's silly. It's bard-only. But yes, it is indeed a spell that can only be used for evil, and very hilarious purposes.

[Noctis Vigil]

Y'know, I'd actually kind of like to experience this just once, just for the sake of finding out if what I think of as a sexy voice is the same as what my subconscious thinks is a sexy voice. This spell could tell a person a lot about themselves that they might not know or be willing to admit.

I would use it on every Paladin I met on principle. :smallamused:

[Circle of Life]

I would use it on every Paladin I met on principle. :smallamused:

I imagine the Sisters of the Church of Mercy do not take kindly to being imitated in such a fashion.

[Morph Bark]

I imagine the Sisters of the Church of Mercy do not take kindly to being imitated in such a fashion.

It's spelled "intimidated".

Double joke.

[Debihuman]

Considering that telepathic bond is a 5th level spell with a duration of 10 minutes per level and this is 4th level spell with a duration of 24 hours, I'd say the duration should be 1 minute per level. It is absurdly overpowered at 24 hours.

Debby

[NeoSeraphi]

Considering that telepathic bond is a 5th level spell with a duration of 10 minutes per level and this is 4th level spell with a duration of 24 hours, I'd say the duration should be 1 minute per level. It is absurdly overpowered at 24 hours.

Debby

First of all, telepathic bond is 5th level for a 9th level progression class, while this is 4th level for a 6th level progression class. Secondly, the duration of charm monster is one day per level. If I made it 1 min/level, well, that just wouldn't be nearly as good as the original charm monster and no one would use it.

[Debihuman]

First of all, telepathic bond is 5th level for a 9th level progression class, while this is 4th level for a 6th level progression class. Secondly, the duration of charm monster is one day per level. If I made it 1 min/level, well, that just wouldn't be nearly as good as the original charm monster and no one would use it.


Point taken. 1 day per level is still too long. 10 minutes might still be short but one hour per level wouldn't be.

Debby

[NeoSeraphi]

Point taken. 1 day per level is still too long. 10 minutes might still be short but one hour per level wouldn't be.

Debby

Alright, I dropped it to one hour/level.

[NeoSeraphi]

Welcome to the NeoSeraphi Hotline.

...whaaaaatt?


Haha! It is up to me, Seraphi, to personally fill in all the holes that WotC left, so that I never again hear someone say "You want me to play D&D? But it seems so restrictive compared to a normal roleplaying game..."

[Ziegander]

Eh, I dunno, even with the restricted duration, you're still combining the effects of Telepathic Bond (5th level), Charm Monster (4th level), and Glibness+ (3rd-4th level) into a single 4th level spell. It seems overpowered to me by quite a lot actually. You have to ask yourself, if this spell existed, would you ever cast any of the above three spells that combine to make this one? I know I wouldn't.

[Absol197]

Eh, I dunno, even with the restricted duration, you're still combining the effects of Telepathic Bond (5th level), Charm Monster (4th level), and Glibness+ (3rd-4th level) into a single 4th level spell. It seems overpowered to me by quite a lot actually. You have to ask yourself, if this spell existed, would you ever cast any of the above three spells that combine to make this one? I know I wouldn't.

Not quite; telepathic bond allows you to bond one creature/level, meaning you can have an entire party communicating together. This only allows one creature. Charm monster allows you to make opposed Charisma checks to force a creature to do something it normally wouldn't, and NeoSeraphi has said this spell explicitly doesn't. And glibness gives you a +30 to all creatures you interact with, whereas this spell gives that bonus only against the one targeted creature. Also, glibness doesn't allow a save.

I'd still use all those spells. Although I do really like this one. I'mma stealin' it! :smallbiggrin: ... :smallredface:

[Ziegander]

Not quite; telepathic bond allows you to bond one creature/level, meaning you can have an entire party communicating together. This only allows one creature.

That's not really a drawback since you wouldn't be using this to communicate with your party you'd be using it as a better Charm Monster.


Charm monster allows you to make opposed Charisma checks to force a creature to do something it normally wouldn't, and NeoSeraphi has said this spell explicitly doesn't.

As written it does though, so he should edit that into the spell. Of course...


And glibness gives you a +30 to all creatures you interact with, whereas this spell gives that bonus only against the one targeted creature. Also, glibness doesn't allow a save.

...with the Glibness effect, it basically has a better version of Charm Monster's "opposed Charisma checks" clause.

Looking at it again, though, it is a slightly better Charm Monster with a much more reasonable duration attached to a not-as-good, but still good, Glibness. I suppose that works as a 4th level Bard spell.

[PEACH]

That's not really a drawback since you wouldn't be using this to communicate with your party you'd be using it as a better Charm Monster.

That seems kind of like saying Charm person being limited by HD doesn't matter compared to implosion if you're only trying to knock out a single 1 HD creature. It's technically correct, but also ignores a huge portion of why the higher level spell is, well, higher level.

[Wavelab]

Hmmm I'm just pondering what would happen if you cast this spell on an illithid?

Illithids are by nature, hermaphrodites. Would they hear their own telepathic voice?

That would confuse the hell out of anybody. "WHY AM I SPEAKING TO MYSELF!"

And still a fan of Neo-Seraphi homebrew(like the new avatar by the way).

[NeoSeraphi]

As written it does though, so he should edit that into the spell. Of course...


Alright, I did. I also made it so the bonus does not stack with the bonus provided by the glibness spell.

[Bhu]

Now this is funny

Kudos :smallcool: