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kayden87
2012-01-04, 11:41 PM
Can you modify a fireball to be a ranged touch in anyway? or gain an attack roll with it, WITHOUT being a Archmage from the dungeons masters guide?

or 100% impossible

Flickerdart
2012-01-04, 11:45 PM
Spellwarp Sniper does the trick, but now it's no longer AoE. An attack roll for an AoE makes no sense.

You also make an attack roll when trying to get a Fireball bead through a small opening.

kayden87
2012-01-04, 11:50 PM
Well what im trying to do is have fireballs damage on a single target, useing a Guided Spell MMF.

Guided Spell (Dragon #307, Dungeon Compendium Vol. 1): Affects only Ranged Touch spells. Ignores 9/10ths of cover or concealment. That's not the best part - the best part is it persists for a number of rounds equal to 1/3rd level, attacking again on your initiative each round. Negated by total cover or concealment, losing Line of Effect, or moving out of range of the spell.

Flickerdart
2012-01-05, 12:07 AM
The feat was reprinted in Dragon Compendium, too. It only persists if it misses the first time, and goes away as soon as it hits. You still only get one hit.

kayden87
2012-01-05, 12:13 AM
Awwwww way to ruin my fun flicker lol

- The way its worded it would HAVE been fun with scorching ray though.

kardar233
2012-01-05, 02:50 AM
As Douglas shows in one of the Test of Spite rounds (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32653), this metamagic feat is nasty with a heavily-metamagicked Moonbow.

Eisenfavl
2012-01-05, 03:13 AM
Ocular Spell from Lords of madness can turn any non-personal range spell into a ray. It takes 2 levels, has 60ft range, but uses this weird mechanic where you cast it up to hours before and store it in your eye, and then fire 2 as a full round action.

Darrin
2012-01-05, 08:07 AM
Can you modify a fireball to be a ranged touch in anyway? or gain an attack roll with it, WITHOUT being a Archmage from the dungeons masters guide?

or 100% impossible

Cast the fireball into a Glyph Seal (MIC p. 161). You'll need to adjust the spell level (via Sanctum Spell or Heighten Spell for a Greater Glyph Seal). Key the Glyph Seal to a grenade-like weapon with the trigger: "Whenever touched by a creature other than you." Throw the grenade-like weapon at a creature as a ranged touch attack. Kaboom.

You can also use a Spell Storing weapon (net uses a ranged touch attack) or a spell-storing item, such as Chardalyn (Lords of Darkness/Silver Marches Web Enhancement) or Shallantha's delicate disk spell (Lost Empires of Faerun). Skull Talisman (Frostburn) might also work, but I haven't quite worked out how to throw/activate/crush it as a ranged weapon (gray slime from Dungeonscape in a breakable clay pot might work).