ExemplarofAvg
2012-01-06, 07:46 PM
So after having completed my first Pathfinder Session, I must say I quite enjoyed it. That being said, I had some interesting experiences. Now through some weird time-space doo-hicky, I wound up looking at various Genies; Janni, Djinn, Shaitan, Efreeti and Marid. Now I began to really like these and my character at the end of the campaign got ghosted (Most Literally) and so I'd like to try a different character. Introduce the Suli (Suli-Jann) race. http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/monsters-as-pcs#TOC-Suli Basically it's a Genie-Esque Humanoid, But I didn't want to stop there. Now there's two classes that special in Genies the Daivrat (Genie Based Arcane Caster, similar to an old caster found in a Dragon Magazine the name of which escapes me) and the Genie Binder (An Arcane or Divine Genie Summoner)
Both can be found Here:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/c-d/daivrat
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/e-h/genie-binder
Now the question is which is better. Both seem to be able to cast fairly well and both can summon creatures decently. The end question is which is better. The Daivrat can be entered at Level 8, and the Genie Binder at Lv 12. And if playing an Arcane Caster you could go Wizard 7/Daivrat 4/Genie Binder 5/ Daivrat 4 and it get a cool Mini-Genie as a Familiar. However this bears little need for mention as Arcane Classes and I do not see eye to eye. So a Cleric 11 or Oracle 12 for entry.
Alright, so this train of thought ends in a great question.
Is there a way to get a good Genie themed class without having to wait until later levels (Current best thought being an Ancestor Oracle going Genie Binder) Also the Genie Binder has a benefit to deal with each of the elemental Genies, (Djinn-Air, Shaitan-Earth, Efreeti-Fire and Marid-Water) but what about the Janni? They represent all of them (and are technically the weakest, but there should be some effect, all I can think of is applying the seals to them as if they weren't genies.
TLDR:
What is the best Genie Themed build in Pathfinder (Preferably Non-Arcane)?
What effect would a Genie Binder have on a Janni?
Both can be found Here:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/c-d/daivrat
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/e-h/genie-binder
Now the question is which is better. Both seem to be able to cast fairly well and both can summon creatures decently. The end question is which is better. The Daivrat can be entered at Level 8, and the Genie Binder at Lv 12. And if playing an Arcane Caster you could go Wizard 7/Daivrat 4/Genie Binder 5/ Daivrat 4 and it get a cool Mini-Genie as a Familiar. However this bears little need for mention as Arcane Classes and I do not see eye to eye. So a Cleric 11 or Oracle 12 for entry.
Alright, so this train of thought ends in a great question.
Is there a way to get a good Genie themed class without having to wait until later levels (Current best thought being an Ancestor Oracle going Genie Binder) Also the Genie Binder has a benefit to deal with each of the elemental Genies, (Djinn-Air, Shaitan-Earth, Efreeti-Fire and Marid-Water) but what about the Janni? They represent all of them (and are technically the weakest, but there should be some effect, all I can think of is applying the seals to them as if they weren't genies.
TLDR:
What is the best Genie Themed build in Pathfinder (Preferably Non-Arcane)?
What effect would a Genie Binder have on a Janni?