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Silverscale
2012-01-22, 01:44 PM
I've had a (mostly just for laughs) idea in my head for a while and I want to see what other people think. Would anyone play a game in a setting where everyone was good looking and often wore cloths shaped to help highlight their "assets"?

I got the idea while flipping through the Dungeons and Dreamboats threads.

RaggedAngel
2012-01-22, 01:45 PM
I've had a (mostly just for laughs) idea in my head for a while and I want to see what other people think. Would anyone play a game in a setting where everyone was good looking and often wore cloths shaped to help highlight their "assets"?

I got the idea while flipping through the Dungeons and Dreamboats threads.

Only if the Book of Erotic Fantasy was in play, and I knew the other players very well.

Very well.

Solaris
2012-01-22, 01:48 PM
So... BESM.

Eurus
2012-01-22, 01:49 PM
Interesting. I imagine their primary income would be tourism? :smallamused:

tensai_oni
2012-01-22, 01:51 PM
This is only a single gimmick that doesn't really change a lot. It can form an interesting background if it's only a part of a larger game idea but on its own it will probably just get old after a while.

hamishspence
2012-01-22, 02:02 PM
Last Action Hero had a moment of this- when Danny comments on the attractiveness and scanty outfits of the people:

"This is a movie!!"

"No, this is California."

TheCountAlucard
2012-01-22, 03:16 PM
Any Exalted game where the player characters are expected to be social characters will often work like this. :smalltongue:

This is because the Appearance attribute is practically a god-stat for social combat, and thanks to Charms, they hardly need armor to survive. :smallamused:

And if you're one of the Fair Folk with the ability to work glamour, your gauze bikini is armor. :smalltongue:

Yora
2012-01-22, 03:23 PM
This sound like a one time joke that might get one short immature chuckle, but becomes pointless after that.

Manateee
2012-01-22, 06:18 PM
What's the difference?

Callos_DeTerran
2012-01-22, 06:48 PM
I tried to run a game like this on the boards actually, using the Chainmail Bikini supplement...it...didn't get off the ground. >.> Not because the idea is flawed in and of itself (you do need more then just 'everyone's super-attractive and wears chainmail codpieces/bikinis' though, especially in the way of plot and humor), but because of me.

My suggestions?

Make it good, light-hearted fun. If it veers into grimdark territory, then it just gets really really weird that the PCs are super-models in medieval slut/stud wear.

Come up with some good humor. Sooner or later (and I imagine sooner) the laughter of killing like...a dragon in lingerie will fade. Either find ways to make it relevant consistently (maybe every adventurer DOESN'T act like the PCs, providing good reaction-comedy) or make it an importantish background detail that contributes to other humor. If all you have on is a chainmail bikini, suddenly an ooze that dissolves metal it touches becomes the perfect tool for a quick laugh, moreso then being disrobed by hungry jello normally is since there's very likely nothing underneath their armor then.

Depending on the group, don't veer into adult. The term 'the black curtain' comes up on these forums, depending where you go, and it is your friend. Lots of PCs (albeit not all of them) will be uncomfortable portraying adult situations with their characters in any degree of depth, especially if it's a character that doesn't share their gender or does. Know the player's limits and respect them. If something would happen in the course of the story but no player (or even just one player) doesn't want to hear/play it out, have the black curtain fall and come back to the event once it's finished.

Parody. Parody is your friend for a game like this. If you think you're good at parody, use it. Use it like a swordsman would use his blade!





And considering the interest I got for my game, I'm fairly certain a large number of people would be interested in a game like this.

Hiro Protagonest
2012-01-22, 06:59 PM
I'd be willing to join. But I don't have Chainmail Bikini, so I'd either go for sensible armor and clothes or get Glamered armor (could I switch it to transmutation, and the armor actually changes form, but it still retains weight, properties, ACP, and ASF of the armor? Basically, shifting clothes that cost and always function as a specific suit of armor).

Silverscale
2012-01-22, 07:01 PM
You're right it wouldn't work as the main gimmick for an entire setting but if it was part of the fluff that could be interesting at least for a one-shot I think.

I'm not sure you would necessarily have to use the BoEF but it certainly wouldn't hurt. Though including the rules for adding in Comliness would almost be a must....

....actually I've never liked the idea of having your attractiveness dictated by you Charisma score; take Quasi-Modo for instance definatly a Comliness score of about 5 but he has at least enough Charisma to get people to like him anyway, and I know plenty of people who are certainly very attractive but you just want to punch them in the mouth as soon as they start talking.

Crafty Cultist
2012-01-22, 07:08 PM
I was one of the PC's in Callos_DeTerran's game. I was one of the sillier characters(I weaponised bishie sparkle). It was good light hearted fun while it lasted, and I enjoyed it mainly for the chance to play the most over-the-top elven pretty boy ever.

Kenneth
2012-01-22, 07:11 PM
just play some of the original D&D modules.. there is at least 1 scantily clad female radnomly chained up in a dungeon that needs saving..

hell, there is probabyl oen of those demotivational posters of that very thing.

Callos_DeTerran
2012-01-22, 07:19 PM
I was one of the PC's in Callos_DeTerran's game. I was one of the sillier characters(I weaponised bishie sparkle). It was good light hearted fun while it lasted, and I enjoyed it mainly for the chance to play the most over-the-top elven pretty boy ever.

The fact you weaponized the bishie sparkle was one of the main reasons you got in, that was just too funny! :smallbiggrin:

Coidzor
2012-01-22, 07:22 PM
just play some of the original D&D modules.. there is at least 1 scantily clad female radnomly chained up in a dungeon that needs saving..

hell, there is probabyl oen of those demotivational posters of that very thing.

Yeah, there's at least one that goes Dungeons, home of porny slave girls since 1977 or something along those lines.


I was one of the PC's in Callos_DeTerran's game. I was one of the sillier characters(I weaponised bishie sparkle). It was good light hearted fun while it lasted, and I enjoyed it mainly for the chance to play the most over-the-top elven pretty boy ever.

How did you manage that feat?

Crafty Cultist
2012-01-22, 07:33 PM
How did you manage that feat?

My character was a bard who didn't know he had supernatural powers. His bard song consisted of dramatic posing and declarations about how handsome we was in order to boost morale, and he considered his spells to be the result of his good looks.

He used glitterdust, but with posing and cheesy lines as somatic and verbal components.

It's all in the fluff.

Morithias
2012-01-23, 01:31 AM
Hell I don't even think it has to be lighter and softer. Just hotter and sexier. Check out Dances with rogues for a good example of an r-rated fanservice loaded adventure.

Or you could have them come across a fey city. Even if it isn't meant to be sexual and is just part of their culture, a city full of nymphs and half nymphs is going to be fanservice central.

If you want evil fanservice to fight, check out the drow, they consider clothes to be a sign of weakness. they see it as something you're trying to hide.

The Chainmail bikini, and book of erotic fantasy aren't needed but they do give help to running such a campaign. the one tip I probably have...don't roleplay the sex, it tends to get squicky.

Solaris
2012-01-23, 02:07 AM
One of our players made a half-nymph drow paladin using the Chainmail Bikini supplement. The rest of the party was more or less normal (except for the copper half-dragon hydra, but he spent a lot of time shapeshifted into a humanoid form), so we played it for laughs every now and again. A campaign based on it, though... yeah, that'd be all manner of awkward.

Mordokai
2012-01-23, 02:17 AM
Sure I would. I was also one of the players in Callos' game and it was jolly good fun :smallbiggrin: I was playing a human female hottie, barely turned legal that had a glamored armored that doubled as bikini, who was way smart and charismatic(a beguiler, in other words), but was somewhat oblivious to just how pretty she was. Think DiDi from Menage a 3, only a lot less ditzy and with much more accurate... proportions. She was also totally inept at combat, to the point of managing to have a wardrobe malfunction once, thanks to an unlucky swing of rapier. No, I have no idea how that worked, I imagine Rule of Sexy and/or funny was involved :smallbiggrin: If anybody would run a game like that, I would love to play again.

And I'll second Callos. Rule of Funny and Rule of Sexy need to be main drives here. Grimdark really doesn't work for a game like that.

Croverus
2012-01-23, 02:25 AM
I'd be interested in playing this, and if no one DMed I've considered running a game like this. I just always thought finding players would be difficult (plus I take my time building up campaigns so I tend to have players lose interest while I craft a little world for them).

Deth Muncher
2012-01-23, 07:09 AM
My character was a bard who didn't know he had supernatural powers. His bard song consisted of dramatic posing and declarations about how handsome we was in order to boost morale, and he considered his spells to be the result of his good looks.

He used glitterdust, but with posing and cheesy lines as somatic and verbal components.

It's all in the fluff.

You're a bad person and you should feel bad.


...and by that I mean you're an awesome person and should feel awesome.

Morghen
2012-01-23, 11:03 AM
Use it like a swordsman would use his blade!http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/000/681/what-you-did-there-i-see-it.thumbnail.jpg

Spiryt
2012-01-23, 11:08 AM
I've had a (mostly just for laughs) idea in my head for a while and I want to see what other people think. Would anyone play a game in a setting where everyone was good looking and often wore cloths shaped to help highlight their "assets"?
.

So what's different compared to 90% of video games/fantasy settings?

Deepbluediver
2012-01-23, 11:55 AM
So what's different compared to 90% of video games/fantasy settings?

Because D&D and other tabletop games tend to encourage combat-optimization, very few players focus on things like appearance. I've seen various proposals to add a "Beauty" or "Appearance" stat to D&D, instead of counting it as part of charisma, but most of them don't seem to balance it very well on the useless/overpowered scale.

OracleofWuffing
2012-01-23, 08:20 PM
Eh, depends on where the campaign goes with it. Part of the reason why fanservice is fanservice is because it isn't hardcore pornography and copulation. There's a difference between "The Half-Nymph Succubus needs your help to repopulate the local centaur population" and "The Drow Queen won't give you the antidote unless you can beat her at a game of volleyball (http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1954/katiedrowvolleyballbig.png)." It's not about having sex, it's about being sexy. One of those is really boring after fifteen minutes, the other one can go places after those fifteen minutes.

Or ten minutes if you're an elf. Hey-oo!

deuxhero
2012-01-23, 08:21 PM
Who needs a fanservice when you can have Wind Wall service!

Silverscale
2012-01-23, 10:40 PM
Who needs a fanservice when you can have Wind Wall service!da dum ching.

But yes when we talk about fan service we're not talking about everyone participating in a giant orgy all the time, just lots of "wardrobe malfunctions" and good looking NPCs in flattering outfits. That's not to say that a giant orgy might not occur if that's what the Players and DM want but that's also not to say that it could be played relatively sedately with little or no "physical interaction" just lots of coy gestures and flirty NPCs

Doorhandle
2012-01-24, 12:50 AM
Well, everyone else has gone over 90% of the risks in this pervy adventure, so now I will suggest some setting ideas. YMMV.

*An immensely hot and humid setting: a bikini of protection would become a more attractive proposition after trying to push through a jungle in full-plate.

*Partial armor rules, and sunderings aplenty.

*Magic use causes immense heat, even if casting a cold spell (it draws the heat into yourself), so magic users gain some cold resistance, dress about as modestly as Seoni (http://pathfinder.wikia.com/wiki/Sorcerer) in the coldest weather, and in addition to constantly being hot and bothered, have a risk of flaring up and destroying those precious panties of the archmarge on a mistcast.

*Speaking of panties, that could possibly be an additional equipment slot, although putting more clothing ON the players sounds counterproductive.

*Charisma bonus to A.C.

*cramped, greased passageways.

*Replace chokers with gropers. :smallwink:

Mordokai
2012-01-24, 01:31 AM
That last advice is *this* close to moving everything into hentai teritory. And while I imagine some players would be comfortable with the whole naughty tentacles stuff and whatnot, I also imagine most wouldn't be.

Everything else sounds like a good idea to me.

Sith_Happens
2012-01-24, 02:12 AM
....actually I've never liked the idea of having your attractiveness dictated by you Charisma score; take Quasi-Modo for instance definatly a Comliness score of about 5 but he has at least enough Charisma to get people to like him anyway, and I know plenty of people who are certainly very attractive but you just want to punch them in the mouth as soon as they start talking.

I see it the exact opposite way. The proportions of attractiveness/social skills/likeable personality/etc. that make up a character's Charisma score can vary however you want, so by your examples Quasi-Modo could logically have a high score while "plenty of people" would have average scores at best. Conversely, as soon as there's a stat that definitively says "this is how good-looking you are," you have a lot less freedom to decide in just what way(s) your character is "attractive."

And of course, that's before you get into the mechanical implications of adding an entirely new attribute with absolutely no combat use and situational-at-best skill-usefulness. As is it works out when every non-Sorcerer/Bard has a passable at best Charisma score; they can still be physically attractive, there's just not that generally great with people. Once you add in Appearance though, that gives everyone a second dump stat, and then things start to get ugly really fast (literally).

Togath
2012-01-24, 02:20 AM
Even if you dont end up using something such as BoEF, goryborn or feycraft armour(both of which are item templates from dmg2) could also give a reason to dress in skimpy outfits, as both have descriptions hinting at them being revealing or flattering(feycraft molds to the body of the wearer, and gloryborn has the following sentence; "gloryborn armour often looks like it couldn't stop a butter knife", and hints at gloryborn armour for males showing off muscles and that it "seems to draw strikes to the protective parts of it, causing it to be as effective as normal armour of it's type"[that last sentence is somewhat paraphrased]), both types of armour also give decent bonuses(gloryborn armour or a gloryborn shield provides a +1 bonus to ac when charging, while feycraft weighs less, has a lower spell failure chance, and grants a +1 to bluff checks[non-combat bluff checks only]).

In addition, there is also the twilight armour property([found in either the book of exalted deeds or on page 21 of the phb2], which reduces arcane sell failure chance, and has the description of "such armour becomes translucent when donned and possesses a faint sunset-coloured sheen").
There is also the gnome twistcloth[races of stone], which while it acts as armour is basically just a cloth that obscures your exact position, providing a small bonus to ac.

Silverscale
2012-01-24, 04:26 PM
Wow...if this actually turns into some kind of game, while that would be totally awesome, I'd have to bow out of actually trying to run it as I don't think I'll have the time in the near future to devote to it; at least not the time it deserves. Not to mention my own DMing experience is all but none existent and this would probably not be a good thing to try as more or less my first campaign. For the sake of the boards....let's just say that I was rather distracted whilst trying to DM my first game.

Anyway, there have been a lot of good suggestions so far and I can't wait to see where this goes.

On a side note, I've never understood things like that Gnome-Twistcloth giving an AC bonus by obscuring your exact position, why not just aim for center-mass? Unless your body is actually shifting constantly from one side to the other then, generally speaking, center-mass is the safest bet for optimal strike zone.[/mini-rant]

horseboy
2012-01-24, 06:10 PM
So... BESM.

Ah, Cheesecake armor.

But no, seriously, I'd just run a Hot Chicks campaign set in "TV Land" Los Angeles and dial the grimdark to PG-13.

OracleofWuffing
2012-01-25, 01:48 AM
Now that I think about it, um, okay. I don't really wanna bring it up because it's old and obscure as all get out, but there's an RPG System called Superbabes, which is based off of the Femforce comics, and, um, if you couldn't guess by now that it was designed with fanservice and goofy situations in mind, well, I don't know how to make it any more clear.

I'm not too familiar with non-D&D game systems (I want to say it borrows off from some other system and just doesn't say so), so the whole character creation and combat mechanics don't seem too transferable to a more robust system to me, but they've got some stuff you can steal regardless. Their flavor of Action Points, for example, are called Bimbo Points. As you use those Bimbo Points, the DM gets to roll for a Bimbo Event, a misfortune that occurs that just prevents you from using further points until it's resolved. Examples of such events include the obvious Wardrobe Malfunction, as well as Receiving a Blind Date, a Bad Hair Day, Instantly Gaining 10 Pounds (which is noticed by everybody), Compromising Photos of Character are published, and Switch Brains With Another Character.

Callos_DeTerran
2012-01-26, 02:44 PM
Now that I think about it, um, okay. I don't really wanna bring it up because it's old and obscure as all get out, but there's an RPG System called Superbabes, which is based off of the Femforce comics, and, um, if you couldn't guess by now that it was designed with fanservice and goofy situations in mind, well, I don't know how to make it any more clear.

I'm not too familiar with non-D&D game systems (I want to say it borrows off from some other system and just doesn't say so), so the whole character creation and combat mechanics don't seem too transferable to a more robust system to me, but they've got some stuff you can steal regardless. Their flavor of Action Points, for example, are called Bimbo Points. As you use those Bimbo Points, the DM gets to roll for a Bimbo Event, a misfortune that occurs that just prevents you from using further points until it's resolved. Examples of such events include the obvious Wardrobe Malfunction, as well as Receiving a Blind Date, a Bad Hair Day, Instantly Gaining 10 Pounds (which is noticed by everybody), Compromising Photos of Character are published, and Switch Brains With Another Character.

I've heard of a similar one that I'd love to run sometime, Macho Women with Guns, but I can never come up with an idea for it that would be safe to run on these boards.

Mordokai
2012-01-26, 04:20 PM
I'm sure there are boards out there which would be comfortable with something like that. It's a wide world web, after all.

Yes, I'm trying to tell you to go along with that idea. If it needs, I will create another account just for it.