Zaranthan
2012-01-22, 11:01 PM
So, I've been wanting to implement the Wish Based Economy (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Dungeonomicon_%28DnD_Other%29/Economicon) in my game, but resolving the issue that 9th level scrolls are Gold Economy level items is a bit difficult. The premise that players can have all the +2 swords in the world is absolutely correct, you can only wield two of them at once, who who cares? Wands are fine, people who can cast polymorph don't care how many fireballs you can throw; all listed staffs are beyond the WBE's reach, and weapons/armor/wondrous items are all covered by "how many rings of invisibility do you want again?" Only scrolls are an issue, making a DC 20 Caster Level check at level 10 is not an obstacle.
Here's my fix: scrolls need to be deciphered (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/scrolls.htm#deciphertheWriting) on the spot, no solving scrolls in advance. You can decipher a scroll in your own time for the purpose of identifying it, of course, and this makes no change to scribing scrolls into your spellbook (million-page spellbooks are their own animal which I have no intention of tangling with, you want all the spells, you've got em, just tell me what you prepared TODAY). However, if you want to pull out a scroll and fling mojo without spending a spell slot, you've got some terribad action economy coming your way:
1. Pull out the scroll: move action at best if it's in a Heward's Handy Haversack.
2. Decipher the scroll: full-round action. If I'm feeling generous, that's your standard action after pulling the scroll and a move action in your next turn. Best case: 1.5 turns just to get the scroll ready IF YOU MAKE THE SPELLCRAFT CHECK. Hope you don't get hit with an arrow.
3. Cast the daggum spell already: usually a standard action, but if it was a scroll of Summon Monster XCVII... hoo boy.
So, best case scenario, you've spent two turns to cast one spell that you didn't have prepared today. "But two turns to cast meteor swarm at level 9 is still absurd!" The infinite wish loop I see is using a Lawful Evil Candle of Invocation to Call an Efreet to grant you three Wishes, one of which you use to get another Candle. I see nothing wrong with an Evil creature who abhors servitude in all forms giving you a cursed scroll, and by coincidence, only doing so for scrolls above your current spellcasting level. You want a hundred scrolls of teleport? Here you go. You want a scroll of chain lightning? Have fun shocking the bejeezus out of yourself and one close friend per caster level.
Here's my fix: scrolls need to be deciphered (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/scrolls.htm#deciphertheWriting) on the spot, no solving scrolls in advance. You can decipher a scroll in your own time for the purpose of identifying it, of course, and this makes no change to scribing scrolls into your spellbook (million-page spellbooks are their own animal which I have no intention of tangling with, you want all the spells, you've got em, just tell me what you prepared TODAY). However, if you want to pull out a scroll and fling mojo without spending a spell slot, you've got some terribad action economy coming your way:
1. Pull out the scroll: move action at best if it's in a Heward's Handy Haversack.
2. Decipher the scroll: full-round action. If I'm feeling generous, that's your standard action after pulling the scroll and a move action in your next turn. Best case: 1.5 turns just to get the scroll ready IF YOU MAKE THE SPELLCRAFT CHECK. Hope you don't get hit with an arrow.
3. Cast the daggum spell already: usually a standard action, but if it was a scroll of Summon Monster XCVII... hoo boy.
So, best case scenario, you've spent two turns to cast one spell that you didn't have prepared today. "But two turns to cast meteor swarm at level 9 is still absurd!" The infinite wish loop I see is using a Lawful Evil Candle of Invocation to Call an Efreet to grant you three Wishes, one of which you use to get another Candle. I see nothing wrong with an Evil creature who abhors servitude in all forms giving you a cursed scroll, and by coincidence, only doing so for scrolls above your current spellcasting level. You want a hundred scrolls of teleport? Here you go. You want a scroll of chain lightning? Have fun shocking the bejeezus out of yourself and one close friend per caster level.